the first thatcher ministry

before everyone votes heseltine or howe, expound on some of the darker horses here

the dialectical crux of this is st john stevas vs joseph

He was noted for his many personal affectations, including proffering his hand in papal fashion, lapsing into Latin whilst speaking, and deliberately mispronouncing modern words.

you know what they should've called this government? "Yes I Can If Keith Joseph Says I Can"

seems quite an interesting figure in the context of reptilian thatcherism xp to st john stevas

albeit a fairly classic gay catholic stylist

joseph otoh

“A high and rising proportion of children are being born to mothers least fitted to bring children into the world.... Some are of low intelligence, most of low educational attainment. They are unlikely to be able to give children the stable emotional background, the consistent combination of love and firmness…. They are producing problem children…. The balance of our human stock, is threatened….”

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http://i.imgur.com/tPWtmcD.jpg

not on keith's reading list if the vaguely antisemitic gay panic hysteria of the other month ever proves to have any truth to it

before everyone votes heseltine or howe, expound on some of the darker horses here

You're joking, aren't you? Who would vote for those wankers? Gilmour then Carrington, you're better off with a toff.

Actually scratch that, all Carrington ever did was 'honourably resign', walkover for Gilmour.

Biffen shares his name with this cat

http://www.ht.no/incoming/article4574825.ece/alternates/w980-default/1Katt_Biffen

http://www.kattene.net/biffen.eng.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgisEwXFlvw

...Biffen is the smallest and only indepedent cinema in aalborg.
Biffen is anxious to know if any blood has been shed.
Biffen is ranked number 220 and has played for 23m in 14 days real name.
Biffen is ranked 46 and has played for 54m in 31 days real name.
Biffen is forever biffing policemen and fears he has done it once too often and has lost his inheritance.

can we lose the real name pls

joseph otoh

“A high and rising proportion of children are being born to mothers least fitted to bring children into the world.... Some are of low intelligence, most of low educational attainment. They are unlikely to be able to give children the stable emotional background, the consistent combination of love and firmness…. They are producing problem children…. The balance of our human stock, is threatened….”

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― pecker shrivellage (imago), Friday, 24 October 2014 01:45 (9 hours ago)

This is a paraphrasing of Churchill's "feeble minded" policy when he was Home Secretary, isn't it?

When was Churchill's 'feeble minded' policy and when was Joseph's statement? I'm interested to know how late on Joseph was allowed to get away with stuff like this. Macmillan described him as ' the only boring Jew I ever met'.

Joseph's statement was probably the only thing that stopped him, rather than Thatcher, being PM.

the Joseph speech was from 1974, there is some interesting background here:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v23/n14/peter-clarke/the-antagonisers-agoniser

The last event I went to was the MIPIM awards. Michael Heseltine, a key figure in the sale of millions of council houses, was awarded a ‘lifetime achievement award’. ‘My whole career has been about property,’ he said. ‘I love property.’ He got a standing ovation.

we're voting for most integral/quintessential/entertainingly malevolent here right

the notion of having to root for one of these cunts is astonishing & sad

mind u stevas seemed sorta ok

The notion of voting at all in this thread amuses me.

The only one there I've never even heard of is Nicholas Edwards.. oh Secretary of State for Wales, that explains it. Not sure I know who Mark Carlisle is either.

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Back in London he noticed that ‘a curtain had come down’. Thatcher’s press secretary, Bernard Ingham, described Biffen as a ‘semi-detached’ member of the cabinet. Asked to respond, Biffen used a more forthright metaphor. ‘I said I thought Ingham was the sewer not the sewage.’ As soon as Thatcher secured her third victory in 1987, Biffen got the boot. Yet he acknowledges his debt to Ingham for providing a title for his book.

I have a copy of that Francis Pym book! I bought it from the International Anthony Burgess Foundation in Manchester when I went there to see Momus perform

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http://www.kattene.net/DSC00207.jpg

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/849591196163444f369373d01bfb6919d412ff71/0_106_2328_1398/master/2328.jpg?w=1920&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=00c842c85b77aa31914e10694d75aaa6

so what's the story there then

n/m, found it

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/30/thatcher-tried-to-block-bad-taste-public-health-warnings-about-aids

http://i.imgur.com/pvpfF8d.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg9vJf2W4AIbfIb.jpg