"Based on a true story" Best Picture nominees 2005-2014

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So Nick Pinkerton mentioned this in an interesting article here http://filmcomment.com/entry/bombast-the-black-list

These sorts of movies are popular for the same reason that fat tomes of historical fiction by the likes of James Clavell, James A. Michener, and Leon Uris used to be the only fiction that you’d find in houses otherwise devoid of books: there is a significant segment of the American public that thinks this business of making characters and stories up out of thin air is a little suspicious and possibly effeminate.

Do you think this is true? And how artistically relevant are these movies?

There's a poll here if you want to vote for the best Best Picture nominee in this category.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
The Social Network 10
The Wolf of Wall Street 5
Munich 3
Milk 2
12 Years a Slave 2
Lincoln 2
Zero Dark Torture 2
The Queen 1
Good Night, and Good Luck 1
Moneyball 1
American Hustle 0
Captain Phillips 0
Dallas Buyers Club 0
Philomena 0
American Sniper 0
The Imitation Game 0
Selma 0
Capote 0
Argo 0
Letters from Iwo Jima 0
Frost/Nixon 0
The Blind Side 0
The King's Speech 0
127 Hours 0
The Fighter 0
Hugo (borderline) 0
War Horse (borderline) 0
The Theory of Everything 0


poxy fülvous (abanana), Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:20 (ten years ago)

It's a clever line that I like but doesn't explain these movies, not all of which are popular with the general public. Familiarity has a lot to do with the financing and marketing of these pictures.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:36 (ten years ago)

the best of this lot:

Munich
Frost/Nixon
Milk
The Social Network
Lincoln
12 Years a Slave

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:37 (ten years ago)

oops – omit Frost/Nixon

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:37 (ten years ago)

Going for Social Network as it is, arguably, the most aesthetically ambitious of the ones that I've seen, or at least the most aesthetically non-historical/biopic-y. Ditto The Wolf of Wall Street, I guess, though I didn't like that film at all.

Might have voted for Milk if it had been called/about Dan White instead.

That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:39 (ten years ago)

have only seen about half of these but voted 12 years a slave

marcos, Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:40 (ten years ago)

Frost/Nixon was abominable

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:45 (ten years ago)

voted for lincoln without hesitating much, though i liked milk a lot at the time

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:47 (ten years ago)

its an interesting theory idk, I feel like it def captures the #1 target audience of shit like American sniper or lone survivor really well, but I also think that fiction versions of those could poss be just as successful? like if you used m/l all of the beats of those films in a fictionalized way would the target audience be like 'pfft I don't care that isn't a real story'? maybe I guess. seems also very tied to the marketing of them tbh

also it def doesn't apply across the board cuz something like American hustle I don't think it mattered at all that it was based on real ppl/facts that it was successful

johnny crunch, Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:48 (ten years ago)

yeah I don't love any of this list, several are like 'watchable', theres some clever stuff in the queen but its also sorta boring

johnny crunch, Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:50 (ten years ago)

have seen 19, the best of which is easily Munich

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:52 (ten years ago)

holy god I've seen them all except American Sniper and TTOE.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:54 (ten years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 24 January 2015 00:01 (ten years ago)

The Blind Side is probably the least significant.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 24 January 2015 02:27 (ten years ago)

lol American Sniper deserves at least a "borderline" qualifier

torn btwn Zero Dark Torture and Lincoln

Simon H., Saturday, 24 January 2015 03:09 (ten years ago)

The Social Network and The Wolf of Wall Street are the best by far from this list imo

everyday sheeple (Michael B), Saturday, 24 January 2015 04:28 (ten years ago)

The Social Network, Capote next.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 January 2015 04:31 (ten years ago)

it's kinda frightening when you look at the Best Original Screenplay lists *just how few* decent entirely original stories there are in movie-world. even the best of them invariably come from pre-existing journalism, real life incidents etc. genuinely original stories are crazy hard to crack obviously but crazy rare. or yeah maybe it's that writers don't write them as often as they know the movies won't get made/financed as Alfred suggests.

'Milk' by a mile.

piscesx, Saturday, 24 January 2015 15:04 (ten years ago)

Munich or WOWS

ryan, Saturday, 24 January 2015 15:19 (ten years ago)

I assume every story is "based on a true story". Some actual incident gives the writer an idea = p much how every story ever has been written.

Hate this stupid tag so much.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 January 2015 15:35 (ten years ago)

most films could apply it if they wanted to

HOME ALONE - "once my mom left me at home for an entire evening and I was so bored I daydreamed of what I would do to burglars"
GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS - "I know a lot of insurance guys who say 'fuck'"
INDECENT PROPOSAL - "People always tell me they wanna fuck my wife"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 24 January 2015 15:42 (ten years ago)

I call half-bullshit on the Film Comment piece, but mostly because Pinkerton doesn't seem to show the grasp of publishing trends that he has does of films. I mean, the list is interesting, but...

The selection of source material for the Black List screenplays (and other such lists) is more interesting, and I think less studied, than the scripts or eventual films themselves. Nearly all of the movies listed are the kind of books that're heavily featured at the first-in-the-door 'make' tables at chain bookstores. They're midlisty popular non-fic books turned into midlisty movies, albeit occasionally 'elevated' by pedigreed directors. They are not analogous whatsoever to "fat tomes of historical fiction by the likes of James Clavell, James A. Michener, and Leon Uris." They are the books (and stage or screenplays of the books, and movies of the stage or screenplays of the books) that're designed as grab-and-go books. Airport non-fiction, New York Times Bestseller bin, 40% when you tw non-fiction, perfect for your Dad books. Safe, conservative, dilettantish, veneer of intellectualism books. Not bad books, just... dullsville.

the captain beefheart of personal hygiene (soda), Saturday, 24 January 2015 15:50 (ten years ago)

40% when you buy two

the captain beefheart of personal hygiene (soda), Saturday, 24 January 2015 15:51 (ten years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 25 January 2015 00:01 (ten years ago)

Missed poll. Add a vote for Munich.

Eric H., Sunday, 25 January 2015 00:02 (ten years ago)


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