Larry Wilmore' Nightly Show

deserves it's own thread

Also needs an "s".

woman from the Blaze not willing to stand up for equal pay was o_0

the 's is ilent

Amy Holmes is one of the least trolly conservative talking heads I've ever come across, but that was indeed surprising.

Digging this so far, but it could benefit immensely from an HBO format; the panel totally works, but just when things are about to ramp up, Larry has to cut to commercial.

that does interrupt the flow a bit, you can't script those things to be timed to commercial breaks. nothin they can do about it tho

not feelin it so far. I like Larry well enough but I am not a fan of the panel format in general - I find it grating and awkward. So far on this show the conversation between panelists is annoyingly edited and the panelists seem to have prepared zingers which they try to pass off as spontaneous (anyone else think this or am I crazy?).

yeah, i think the panel segment hasn't found its rhythm yet, but the front 1/3 is good

perhaps I am just glad to see someone else do the comedy panel format besides Bill Maher

particularly someone who isn't a racist Islamophobic misogynistic shitbag like Maher.

not feelin it so far. I like Larry well enough but I am not a fan of the panel format in general - I find it grating and awkward. So far on this show the conversation between panelists is annoyingly edited and the panelists seem to have prepared zingers which they try to pass off as spontaneous (anyone else think this or am I crazy?).

― franny glasshole (franny glass), Friday, January 23, 2015 4:14 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I did notice a few edit points; it'd be cool if they posted the unedited panel segments on the web. The only prepared zingers I've noticed were from the comedians on the panel, which I think is to be expected. It doesn't strike me as grating, though there's just a touch of awkwardness when Wilmore wants to shoehorn in something funny, but the panel keeps moving.

particularly someone who isn't a racist Islamophobic misogynistic shitbag like Maher.

felt like this kinda went without saying but yes exactly

i want to like wilmore, er, more but i find him only mildly amusing. he seems too tasteful, somehow.

i wish he was on hbo and that he would lose the jon stewart tics but it's early and wilmore is a cool dude and a helpful voice to add to the conversation

it's early

Yes this is key

watched the first ep -- highlight was def cory booker getting all the weak tea

guests following the first ep have been ridiculously weak tea

'keep it 100' segment is awesome

went to a live taping of the last episode, not my favorite but when you have a guy who's killed 40 people on a comedy show it tends to sink it a bit

tbh i think the panel stuff is better than the opening monologue (so far)—feel like wilmore is still getting his own rhythm together. I don't think much was actually edited out of the panel discussion, at least from the ep i saw in person

when you have a guy who's killed 40 people on a comedy show it tends to sink it a bit

this episode was weird and kind of gross. Everybody genuflecting before the gov't-created and obviously damaged psychopath

Keep it 100 is amazing, it should be on every talk show.

This show rules. More consistent than either the Daily Show or Colbert Report.

I've noticed they've started to mix up the routine. Sometimes the panel gets two segments, sometimes only one, and they aren't doing Keep it 100 every night. Unfortunately the man-on-the-street and the in-studio comedy bits aren't always great.

Also, bringing in Jim Norton on an episode specifically about female empowerment seems like trolling.

Yeah and Larry can put his foot in his mouth sometimes trying to be funny. Still, it's better than Colbert's mock advertising or Stewart picking through Fox News's garbage.

When Daymond John was one of the guests the other night I swear he didn't say one thing the whole episode! As in, even if he did it was edited out. They did cut to him laughing a few times though.

again, it's embarrassing that they can't consistently get better guests.

https://instagram.com/p/1RFlDgHQ11/

trying hard there

having a panellist disappear in the middle of a show, seems odd.

the show still doesn't seem to know what it is, i don't think. keeps tweaking the format, seemingly at random.

I didn't enjoy last night's show at all, with Keith Robinson making weird sex change comments and Larry going all in on execution and Alex Wagner disappearing before the final segment, it was just an ugly episode.

I haven't watched in a few weeks, have I missed anything good

The panels are 3 guests now instead of 4, and they tweaked the set a little bit with a new roundtable. Content is still hit or miss depending on the topic/guest combo.

The show just seems like it's trying too hard to capitalize on the think piece trend. Like they needed an angle with this show and they see how both think pieces are popular and how shows like John Oliver can resonate on the web afterwards, so they keep attempting to provoke that effect.

At least with Maher's show the conversations actually come about pretty naturally, yet LW segments like "weak tea" feel forced due to timing constraints and desperation to inspire think pieces imo.

It's been quite a while since they've done a straightforward "Keep it 100" segment.

watching some of these made me realize that i kinda got all the larry i needed on the daily show. like, it was the perfect amount of larry. kinda like when you meet someone who you think is funny/interesting and it turns out they aren't as funny/interesting when you spend a lot of time with them.

I dunno, I still watch every night because I like Larry in general. If it was 30 minutes of Lewis Black every night, I'd probably be homicidal.

i like wilmore too. i hope they figure this out, every time i peek in it seems like a work in progress

I think the Daily Show Wilmore counts as more of a character ala the "Stephen Colbert" character that spun off into the Colbert Report (which built on the ridiculousness of his Daily Show appearances). Wilmore's show is boring and too nice because Wilmore seems like a genuinely nice, kinda boring guy and he doesn't have the force of personality of a Maher, Stewart, or Oliver. He moderates when inciting people would make a better show.

Also kinda seems like the Nightly Show is, in general, too afraid to be too similar to any of the other news-comedy shows and wind up being a bland version of all of them.

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strongly identify with wagner's eyeroll at the end of that discussion

I dunno, I still watch every night because I like Larry in general. If it was 30 minutes of Lewis Black every night, I'd probably be homicidal.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This. Larry may be a little awkward and nervous at times but he comes across like a genuine nerdy nice guy.

Crazy that TV Guide joke from last night, dang.

Felonius Monk is pretty rad, hope he is a regular.

yeah I feel like the regular bits/character walk-ons are working better than the panels at this point. Scarface's appearance recently was disappointingly bizarre.

bernie sanders tho

the trans episode a few days ago was so terribly awkward, which I guess is sometimes what this show wants, but idk about the spirit of it sometimes

those gang members >>>> all the other guests so far.

although felonius was good, yes.

I liked that trans episode due to just the vibe of "this is how steps are taken forward, sometimes slowly, usually awkwardly"

http://i.imgur.com/1pBfZAT.jpg

kudos if this was self-parody

never felt better informed about politics and news than when I watch Wolf Blitzer and realize I understand those subjects better than him and it's his job

but then you just want to steal all his money

@ggreenwald
Like Colbert in 2006, Wilmore didn't tell "jokes" but said mean truths to rich TV stars' faces, as they got angry. That's why it was funny.

still, Anarchists for Clinton seem to think Obama was funnier.

obama is totally funny. these are the only times i ever watch him speak.

the video w/him and Boehner sucked tho

Cancelled! >:(

Bummer. Still I'm sure Wilmore will go on to to do more good stuff

Feel bad for him and everyone involved but I agree the show wasn't working imo

really hope a bunch of his contributors - Mike Yard, Franchesca Ramsey, Robin Thede, etc. - land on their feet

i felt like it was improving! consistently better than daily show and the panel discussions in the final segment were consistently watchable. Bummer.

yeah I thought it was getting better too. and it was great to have a comedy/news show that was clearly run by minorities + women and reflected their POVs

consistently better than daily show

low bar. surely new daily show dude is getting the boot, too?

That would not disappoint me. However it'd be nice if they could salvage the show/brand with new writers and host.

it's just crazy that a guy who sucks that bad is hosting the daily show NOW of all times

^^^

Yeah. I don't blame Stewart for wanting out of a stressful job, that's totally understandable, but it would have been so perfect for him to stay through this campaign and go out on top. I guess the idea was that it would be a perfect time for his replacement because of the never ending gift of trump.

Samantha Bee is the only show that exists for me in this category. I watch John Oliver if I'm interested in the insights his team's research brings to light. The joke writing and delivery seems forcefully shoehorned in to meet "comedy" quotas. Anyway, this is just a reworded version of the same post in every late night political show thread at this point.

For ongoing reference:
full frontal is great
last week tonight has good politics, no funny
daily show is last week's newspaper covered in birdshit

Right, thank you

I watch John Oliver if I'm interested in the insights his team's research brings to light. The joke writing and delivery seems forcefully shoehorned in to meet "comedy" quotas. Anyway, this is just a reworded version of the same post in every late night political show thread at this point.

It's like eating pasta, except with someone flicking you in the ear every 30 seconds. No, Jonathan, I do not want you to flick me in the ear, I would just like to enjoy this pasta without getting spaghetti sauce all over my shirt! Jonathan, stop it please!

lolllll

does anyone else think the unfair criticism of his Correspondents' Dinner speech had something to do with the cancellation? Don't know why he was criticized beyond the Fox News vortex.

How long until @Midnight is at 10pm?

bummer Larry was awesome and his team was kind of ramshackle and off the cuff but it felt real and went some interesting places.

i saw Daily Show the other day and it was totally lame, they had 2 anchors commenting on the show as if it was the olympics. it felt like a bad SNL skit.

not that Larry's show didn't feel like that at times. i just prefer him as a personality over most of the other comedy hosts rn. dude rules and it sucks to see this show go.

I wish Mike Yard could've been there, but that was a really nice ending to the show.

the shitely show

watching this finale, i liked this cast way more than the new Daily Show cast. Franchesca Ramsey, Holly Walker, Robin Thede, and Jordan Carlos all way better than the DS crew, which feels stuck in this mock-cynical rut.

man the Daily Show didn't really care about these guys at all, i think the cancellation got a single tossed-off mention "I guess they were kind of colleagues of ours". a far cry from the days where Stewart and Colbert would promote each other on the reg.

New Daily Show just lacks a soul. And Noah is a twerp who'd rather be doing hacky standup. The Nightly Show was weird and kind of clunky at times but seeing so many people of color on a show get to voice their opinions was fucking great.

xp could be weakness, no? i don't know if wilmore's show was clearly way better but if it could be seen as better, it would come off weird for the daily show ppl to be too pally with it - make them look worse.

Is it not strange that this was just cancelled abruptly, in the middle of the season?

It is weird. As far as I could tell, viewership didn't fall off a cliff (it dropped over the first few months, but held kinda steady throughout 2016). Maybe this is the spot they wanted to use for Jessica Williams' new show.

from what I heard contracts for all the cast were abt to come up, that's why the odd timing

everything i know i learned from facebook and nu-daily show and larry never ever get any time on my FB. as opposed to stewart and colbert which were constantly linked to for years. john oliver definitely gets all kinds of liberal outrage linkage. no social media buzz is pretty dire nowadays.

Nu-Daily is largely garbage, so that's not surprising. Much of Nightly was too nuanced for fb links, though. They mainly covered ongoing issues/behaviors. Sometimes they were really on point about a particular current event, but mostly it was a continuous discussion.

obviously "nuance" isn't what t.v. people are looking for when it comes to tweet links.

i feel bad because i loved larry on the daily show but i didn't really love him as host early on with his show and i kinda stopped watching. i didn't mind the back and forth of the guests but even that reminded me of a less exciting politically incorrect or somethng. and keeping it 100 seemed corny to me. but i adore black-ish so i get larry in spirit anyway.

They still had a panel every night, but they largely phased out the Keep It 100 gimmick and cut it down to one guest + 2 cast instead of 3 guests + 1 cast which was much easier to control. And the chemistry the cast ended up having was on par with Colbert/Carell era TDS.

Much of Nightly was too nuanced for fb links, though.

True and fucking sad that that's the kiss of death.

And scott otm, Larry's character on tDS was more engaging, he could seem a little milquetoast as a host sometimes.

Larry Wilmore's co-created show with Issa Rae "Insecure" is great.

Everyone's probably seen it but it's worth circulating:

http://www.avclub.com/article/god-bless-larry-wilmore-not-buying-real-times-budd-250596

hope this pans out, she was great on Larry's show https://twitter.com/chescaleigh/status/854352538652610560

She's great, absolutely, but now I'm wondering whatever happened to that CC development deal that Jessica Williams left The Daily Show for.

Larry Wilmore's co-created show with Issa Rae "Insecure" is great.

^^^kinda deserves it's own thread imo but idk if enough people are watching. S2 premiere was great

I liked S1, hoping for less of the romantic stuff which was p boilerplate for the most part

does larry wilmore really get a co-creator credit for it? it's more polished and produced or whatever on hbo but back when it was a youtube show all the essential components were already in place

I liked S1, hoping for less of the romantic stuff which was p boilerplate for the most part

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, July 31, 2017 11:15 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was most of the show!

Larry's got a producer credit, yes (premiere was written by Ray)

and yeah relationships of young black professionals is basically the show, I have no complaints about it tbh (def don't want it to become some issue-of-the-week show)

premiere's brief internet-dating montage totally reminded me of Master of None

this was most of the show!

the first couple eps focused way more on the friendship and work stuff which I found way more compelling