Are you Desperate?

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Inspired by Ally. Not that she is desperate. I reckon most / many single people would not be adverse to a shag / fling / marriage but how do you know if you are desperate? What makes someone look desperate? What is wrong with being desperate?

Emma, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I could never work out why Dan was so Desperate.

Pete, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i don't do desperate....being desperate suggests a need for something lacking within...(not that I'm not lacking, just responding to questions) - how do you know...hmm, perhaps self-recognition negates desperation...

Geoff, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I dunno, it must be awfully hard getting a snog if you've got a chin that big and stubbly.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

what wouldn't i give for a hilarious joke abt COW PIE right now, esp. one which almost everyone wd misunderstand

mark s, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm desperate but not serious...

jamesmichaelward, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*sigh*. another sex thread. As far as I know, I'm not desperate. I'm more worried about my extreme insouciance towards the whole thing.

Most ridiculous thing I have ever read was s ome woman in G2 who was making a big deal about giving up sex for a while. It was like 'After six weeks it was really really hard and I nearly caved in.' I mean it's not like going down for the shops for cigarettes, is it? Or maybe it is for some people. I dunno - if buying a packet of cigarettes took as much effort as getting laid then I think my attempts to quit might have been somewhat more successful.

Nick, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well I didn't just mean desperate for sex. I mean men wouldn't complain about women looking desperate for sex now would they? When I hear men sneer 'she looks desperate' (NOT ABOUT ME) I always assume they mean 'she looks desperate for a long term relationship that will prevent me from sowing my wild oats and being a Real Man'.

Emma, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, I see. In that case I am desparate. As I have said before, getting married is urgent and key.

Nick, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

WHen they say you look desperate Emma they mean one of two things:

a) Desperate for a drink

b) Desperate to not be hanging around with that annoying but strangely attractive short blond guy.

Pete, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pete I really hope that men who fancy me do not also find you strangely attractive, though it would not surprise me. My mum is desperate for me to get married, do you think that might show?

Emma, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

WHen she bought you that white dress at the weekend it was a giveaway. Like I;ve said before - tell her you are marrying me, she'll soon go off the idea.

Pete, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, she thinks I am so unmarriageable that I think she would even settle for you Pete, especially after the DIY thing. I am afraid she is going to try to arrange a marriage for me through the Jewish Chronicle.

Emma, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can you construct the ad for us now, in your Mum's inimitable "bigging you up" stylee.

Pete, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'Marry my daughter, please for the love of God, I know she talks a lot but she has all her own teeth and child bearing hips. And she can cook really she is just too bone idle.'

Emma, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think the difference between being open to relationships/sex/whatever and being actually desperate is in how you feel about it. Do you NEED to have another person in your life to feel good about yourself, or would it just be something that would be fun to have? I have a friend who moved here and talked nonstop for about a month about how she really, really needed to "get laid". This is desperate, why do you need to have anything like that? I think it's just the way you handle yourself that lets people "know" that you are desperate for this kind of thing.

Men, OTOH, have a different kind of desperation. Women I know seem to have relationship desperation, men have shag desperation. That's very easy to sort out - they're the ones that come up to you and tell you these ludicrious things like they know you when they've never spoke to you before and use awful come on lines and won't leave you be and aren't very discriminant anyway. This isn't to say that women don't have shag desperation and men don't get insistant on getting married and having kids, it's just more common the other way around.

The only thing wrong with it is that it IS off putting. I mean, a friend of ours, going back to my formerly sex obsessed friend, would talk to me because she'd glom onto him nonstop and try to monopolize all his time because she was attracted to him, and he'd tell me that it would drive him crazy, he found her to be "too possessive as a friend" and would often talk to me when we were all together as a break from the possessiveness. People can feel when you are being desperate and just trying to get something going with anyone for the sake of doing it. It's like someone else I know who is "into" me - he's only into me because he's desperate for a new relationship, I think, and it got to the point of obsessiveness, he talks to me like he knows me (he knows nothing about me and presumes to tell me all about the people who have "hurt" me in the past and why I'm screwing myself up with my current relationship and what I need to do with my life and what I "act like", blah blah blah), gets all pissy for me "not calling him" (again, I point out I barely know this guy), and he's extremely nasty towards my relationship, telling friends of mine nasty comments and such about me and Ramon. I mean, I barely even want to be friends with the guy based off his desperation for me, much less anything else - it just comes off creepy.

Plus, the people it DOES attract are entirely the wrong people, they're either desperate and needy themselves, or they are going to abuse this need in some way.

Bad bad bad. Don't be desperate! You don't need anyone!

Ally, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I disgaree. Everyone needs Mike Hanley.

Nick, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Where is the ocelot fondler? He has been most quiet of late.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't know. He popped up on the Get a Room thread when I wasn't here yesterday to say he loved me and I haven't seem him since.

Nick, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Did he finally top the stats cock? My theory with him is that he'd bugger off as soon as that happened.

Anyway, I am not desperate but I bet I would be. My head says it would take me 12 months before I descended from reasonable human being to one-track beast, my heart suggests more like 12 weeks.

Tom, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You know you're desperate when you start slapping your friends on the ass. You know they're desperate when they like it.

Lyra, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why does Nick D want to get married so urgently?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Breed Dastoor Puppies?

nathalie, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Because he knows time is ticking away on my singleness, he needs to get his proposal in in time.

Ally, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My friends always enjoy it when I slap their asses. As do I when they slap mine. I too would most probbaly be desperate, given half a chance.

Ally C, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...
I feel that I have become more desperate in the past couple of months. In my early twenties I wasn't at all, ever.

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 19 September 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps you're just overly-keen? Desperate just sounds so ... well, desperate.

Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Sunday, 19 September 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 19 September 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes. But not serious.

Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 20 September 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Not anymore

Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 20 September 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

sometimes, i wonder, will i ever find that terry durham lp...

the great doxology of heckmondwike town (gareth), Monday, 20 September 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

make it a... cheeseburger

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 20 September 2004 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

can't you d/l that record?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 20 September 2004 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I was looking forward to my days as a dirty old woman. But I'm not nearly as desperate as I used to be. I wonder if it's hormonal or something. Roll on, the menopause.

The 120 Days Of Streatham (kate), Monday, 20 September 2004 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)

nope, i am a very discerning woman. that discernment comes from self-awareness.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Monday, 20 September 2004 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

there have been times when i probably was a little desperate yes. looking for affirmation from all the wrong places. i now know what i want and what i deserve. what ally said upthread about "not needing anyone" is very true.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Monday, 20 September 2004 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Can you be desperate if you just don't fancy anyone?

Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 20 September 2004 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know, Ricardo. I think that's about where I'm at right now. I feel kind of like I *should* be desperate, but when I'm actually out and meeting people, I can't really get a care on about any of them enough to act desperate.

It's odd. I fancy lots of people. Just none of the people I actually meet.

Or maybe desperation is actually all about wanting/trying to get with people, even if you don't actually fancy them.

The 120 Days Of Streatham (kate), Monday, 20 September 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i might be wrong, but i thought desperation implied lowering ones standards.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Monday, 20 September 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely desperation is settling for any old mong because you're gagging for it? They're disqualified if you DO fancy them.

Right now I am desperate for a holiday more than anything else.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 20 September 2004 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I would love a holiday too. Not a mad one, just somewhere very beautiful, quiet and warm.

Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Monday, 20 September 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, yes, but there's also the kind of desperation where you just haven't had sex for so long that EVERYONE seems attractive. And you do something silly and once you've had sex a couple of times your standards go up again and a big old mess ensues.

I dunno, I am 'desperate' in that it's been so long that I suspect it's doing bad things to my brain, but not in the sense that I'd sleep with anyone for the sake of it. Quite the converse: it's as though the lack of sex (or just intimacy generally) has made my specific libido shut down entirely. It's not that I've gone off sex entirely, more that I never meet anyone I'm attracted to.

Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 20 September 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Quite the converse: it's as though the lack of sex (or just intimacy generally) has made my specific libido shut down entirely. It's not that I've gone off sex entirely, more that I never meet anyone I'm attracted to.

God, story of my life, Ricky! OK, it hasn't been *that* long since I last had sex... in fact, my sex drive kind of died while I was still actually technically having sex. Thing is, you get to the point where it's kind of a relief not having to deal with it any more. It makes things easier, i.e. you don't end up going home with the first person to actually respond, resulting in a big old mess.

The 120 Days Of Streatham (kate), Monday, 20 September 2004 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)

So is this a good or a bad thing? I mean, as a short term reaction to emotional fuckups it's obviously very useful. But it's been ages and I do worry that I'm never going to fancy anyone ever again.

Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 20 September 2004 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno. It hasn't been that long for me, so I don't know how long it will last, or indeed, what its long term effects are. I just find it kind of a relief.

I know that I *can* still fancy people, every time I see whatever new rock boys Rough Trade try to shove down my throat. Perhaps this is like people who get so addicted to porn that they can no longer get it up with normal women. I've been so warped by pop that I can never have a real relationship with an actual man. Oh god, that's even sadder.

The 120 Days Of Streatham (kate), Monday, 20 September 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)


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