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i have no idea what the general consensus would be or if americans even muse upon such matters...but this was inspired by the 'best/worst english county' thread - due to (lack of) size its maybe easier for the english to assess which county is best or worst based on stereotypes surrounding them, environment/landmarks, tourist attractions/things to do etc.

what do you base it on in the States? same things? you can comment on what you believe to be the best state as well, tho comments about the frivalousness and pointlessness of this thread will just be ignored ;)

― blueski, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 10:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Washington, Montana, Idaho, North Dakota, Alaska. Actually I love all those places really but they're closest to the (western)Canadian border and it got really boring going there all the time (except Alaska where I've never been, and it's cool cuz Don Simpson is from there), it didn't feel enough like TRAVELLING

― dave q, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Florida and Texas are worst. I've never been there though.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Floriduh for a number of reasons, not least of which is the right wing reactionary chimp governor who helped steal the election for his brother. They do have year round sunshine going for them, but that's about it.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Now I sound like Tad.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Florida is the sleaziest state & Texas is the most evil state.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

ahhh... desolation comes in so many flavors

― gabriel (gabe), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's to the state of Mississippi...

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 11:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Texas. The only state to have ever been a separate country, and BOY have they never forgotten it.

― kate, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Oklahoma

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

But that has ole time charm, no?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuckin' A. FLORIDA. And I am technically from there, as my entire family is from there (though haven't lived there since I was a newborn). It is a state-sized stripmall. It is hell. The entire middle portion of the state is owned by Disney. It is always hot and always muggy. The weather never changes. It rains every day at exactly 3:00. It has all of the disadvantages of the south (racism, hicks, heat) without any of the benefits (charm, beauty, southern accents).
The one redeeming factor of Florida: St. Augustine. The one tourist trap in the state worth going to.

― Nick A., Tuesday, 15 October 2002 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

does the Dubya connection between Texas and FLorida have anything to do with the evidently popular bashing of both states here or is that just coincidental???

― blueski, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Louisiana, for entirely personal reasons.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I lived in Shreveport, LA for a while. I'll vouch that Louisiana is up there on my not-so-favorite-states list.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

New Hampshire and Idaho escape this title only by benefit of great natural beauty.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Idaho has potatoes though! You just can't diss potatoes...

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Nevermind the acrylamides...

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

New Jersey. How can anyone not have mentioned New Jersey yet?
I agree re: Florida = hell, including Disney, rave kiddies, death metal, boy bands, swamps, and seniors who can't drive.
Delaware is also a useless sucking parasite of a state, home to credit card companies, the least strict corporate regulation in the country, tax free shopping for its residents, and highway tolls for the rest of us to have the privilege of entering and leaving the place.

― daria gray (daria gray), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Mississippi and Alabama. I can't concieve of a single positive attribute I can give either.

-
Alan

― Alan Conceicao, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

N: No.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I think of surreys with fringes on top.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Alabama for the sole reason of "cousins is okay".

― liz! (liz!), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I vote Florida, too - though South Carolina is waaay up there

― luna.c (luna.c), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Another vote for Alabama (although a very good friend of mine is from there). Earlier this year Kaye was telling me that her niece had been living alone while going to college, until some low-lifes slashed her car's tires because she was a woman living alone. All I could think was "Didn't Alabama come along into the 21st century?"

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I lived in Shreveport, LA for a while.

Longtime friend of mine lives in Shreveport. She's wanted out for quite a while, but is not sure how best to do that...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Americans in "hating the south" shocker!

Anyway, I've got Utah and Alabama in a dead heat. I really don't mind Texas, and I can't decide how to deal with Florida: there's like 50 square miles of okay-Florida and then a great big swamp of worse-than-anything-ever-anywhere-in-history Florida.

I'm giving Oklahoma a pass because I feel sorry for it: it has such a tainted and dishonorable origin ("Indians, you can have this forever and ever, we absolutely swear") ("Hold on, actually we need that now") that it's hard to expect it to have gotten anywhere.

Delaware is a little blood-sucker, no question, but there's nothing much wrong with it as a place (apart from Jade Tree emo).

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I am shocked, shocked at the statism expressed here! What ever happened to E pluribus unum? These Brits are trying to divide us by casting a stone among us, Theseus-style. Don't fall for it!

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, my vote goes to South Carolina (not Florida, my granny used to live down there).

― Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

My vote for Louisiana has nothing to do with it being in the South and everything to do with it being where my brother was stationed when he was killed.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Nabisco, Utah also has that damn "natural beauty" thing happening. Do aesthetics count for nothing?

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

(Jesus Christ, I'm fucking grim.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

gosh, it has to be florida, the state that (still) can't vote straight, epitomizes the hot pink era of advertising. i mean, people, this is a state that had to resort to urban planning by disney to get a walkable town somewhere in its middle.

a couple of months back jonathan chait, in the new republic, made a very strong case against delaware.

― maura (maura), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Texas.

― dan (dan), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

texas has one of the best art musuems in the world, with an innovative curratorial style. It also has Marfa, a genuine colony of creative types. I vote Nodak.

― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Is there ANYTHING in North Dakota?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's pretty clear from my post, but I want to clarify: I don't hate the south, I have mixed feelings about the south. I live in the south (Richmond, VA), sometimes I love it, sometimes I hate it.

― Nick A., Tuesday, 15 October 2002 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I vote Nodak too - because they kill the doctors who have to fly in to perform abortions.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

That's a hard question... I actually find something at least slightly redeemable in every state I've visited. Then again, I travelled all around the perimeter, and nowhere in the middle.

Conceptually, Florida is the last state I want to visit, and if allowed to redefine Miami and surroundings as its own city-country-state-island, Florida will get my vote.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

florida isn't part of the south as many southerners have told me. it's also definitely the worst state i've ever been to. and my dad and sisters live there. it's just so unpleasant. the weather is shirt drenching, its entirely flat, everyone hates each other, everyone is crooked beyond belief, its educational system is shocking. the snorkeling is great though. miami in particular is a shithole, db. everyone i know who has any kind of positive opinion of miami has either visited south beach (another city) or never actually been there.

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

California or New York.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

The case against Delaware: http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020819&s=chait081902&c=1

― Amedee Archambault (Amedee), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

North Dakota has part of the Badlands. Its also pretty desolate. Lack of people can equal points.

Still...how can you argue against Alabama or Mississippi? Seriously? Yea, Florida sucks...but at least its warm in the winter. You can't say that about AL or MS. God knows neither have any physical beauty. My guess is that the people aren't voting for them are the ones who haven't been, heh

Also, I'm struck the lack of votes towards West Virgina (the forgotten state).

― Alan Conceicao, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

hey mattobrien@attbi.com, scroll up and you'll see that i posted that :P

― maura (maura), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Of the handful I've been in, New Jersey appealed by far the least. From a distance, Mississippi, and I'm very grateful for Dave Boyle's link to my favourite ever protest song.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's safe to say Delaware is just too small to be bad. It's like a mosquito. Not a rotting, smelly abcess like other states mentioned.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

too small to be bad

haha...

2 Small 2 B Bad

Dan, I think we have a new boy band name. Now to just find the lucky recipient....

But I digress. Anyway, shitty states... sorry.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

HAHAHA

The Motion Of The Ocean: The new album from 2 SMALL 2 B BAD! Featuring the hit singles "Can You Feel It Now?" and "We All Look Bigger In The Dark"!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

with bonus remixes of "It's The Technique (That Matters)" and "Inch Of Emotion"

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

You are both evil genii.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Skipping 17 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

people are definately too hard on jersey. its problem is that its not really a unified state. theres the shore, theres the part thats just a suburb of philly, and then the part thats just a suburb of new york.
search: south jersey. destroy: newark.

― amy (amy), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Much of Michigan is actually beautiful, especially the UP. I think the non-UPers are just jealous. I grew up 5 houses down from Indiana and the foul-smelling industrial area mentioned above and I have to say that Indiana is just bleak, the rural areas are dull and it is scarily right-wing once you get about thirty miles south of Chicago. So my first thought when I saw this thread was Indiana. Although the southern end of the state is green and hilly, the part that most people drive through is dull. I think the motto is "Crossroads of America" or something, which is accurate, since more often than not, people are just driving through.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

P.S. They even put up cul-de-sacs all along the state line just to keep the Hoosiers out.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I forgot about Indiana. Traveling through that state with my parents is one of my first memories. Why ? The SMELL. Ugh.

Also, I am trying and failing to think of redeeming qualities to much of Pennsylvania and Ohio..
Personally, I'm from Maryland & it's a great state, you have the Chesapeake Bay on one site, the mountains on the other, and for ..um.. personality, "America's Greatest City," Baltimore. Just don't go to Ocean City EVER.
West Virginia is kind of cool, I think. The mountains are beautiful.

― daria gray (daria gray), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Princeton Record Exchange

*big ups*

I like New Jersey. It has character.

― Jody Beth Rosen, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Any state that has mountains would have to be disqualified, I think.

Get your rejected state mottoes here, here , and here.

Real state mottoes.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The gulf coast of Florida is very beutiful and so are the keys and the Everglades.
The worst state would have to be Idaho.

― Micheline Gros-Jean (Micheline), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Indiana does indeed suck ass, though I'm tempted to say they have one thing going for them: Mennonites are really nice. They're superficially creepy, in this doughy lookalike Children of the Corn kind of way, and their whole vibe is sort of like if Amish people were trying to pass themselves off as normal, but: when it comes down to it they're just damn nice people, and pacifists, and sort of this cartoon-cute hearty version of a northern Europe one imagines only existed in ruddy oompah fantasies.

(The slight bias here is that Mennonites taught my father and his brothers to read and speak English, and brought them over to the U.S. and set them up at Mennonite schools and such: we and Mennonites sort of go way back.)

I don't think it's fair to say that the U.P. is either good nor bad: it's just flat-out strange up there. As for the rest of Michigan, it's a bit of a slow fade into decency: when I was living up north I probably justifiably hated it, but it's nevertheless quite beautiful, and the crushing woodsy nothingness of it all breeds plenty of interesting happenstance among the kids. By the time you're down to Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor and Lansing and such it's quite nice, though beyond that you're headed for the Indiana sinkhole.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought most americans didnt like maryland?

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Idaho ain't thee paradise for sure, but damn if my recent road trip through most of it wasn't gorgeous.

Search: Twin Falls canyon (or *ulp* caldera), salmon river canyon, Record Exchange in Boise, ...

Then again, I'm white. And I felt a certain "what if I weren't white" queasiness in many gas stops.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth, I'm not aware of Maryland particularly being the butt of any jokes, around here anyway (Pennsylvania). People do put down New Jersey quite a bit.

Now here's a little ditty that is sure to make lots of folks want to come and visit the U.S. of A:

What Did Delaware?
Written By: Unknown
Copyright Unknown

What did Delaware, boys,
What did Delaware?
What did Delaware, boys,
What did Delaware?
What did Delaware, boys,
What did Delaware?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
What did Delaware?

She wore her New Jersey, boys,
She wore her New Jersey
She wore her New Jersey, boys,
She wore her New Jersey
She wore her New Jersey, boys,
She wore her New Jersey
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She wore her New Jersey

What did Idaho, boys,
What did Idaho?
What did Idaho, boys,
What did Idaho?
What did Idaho, boys,
What did Idaho?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
What did Idaho?

She hoed her Maryland, boys,
She hoed her Maryland
She hoed her Maryland, boys,
She hoed her Maryland
She hoed her Maryland, boys,
She hoed her Maryland
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She hoed her Maryland

What did Ioway, boys,
What did Ioway?
What did Ioway, boys,
What did Ioway?
What did Ioway, boys,
What did Ioway?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
What did Ioway?

She weighed a Washington, boys,
She weighed a Washington
She weighed a Washington, boys,
She weighed a Washington
She weighed a Washington, boys,
She weighed a Washington
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She weighed a Washington

How did Wiscon-sin, boys,
How did Wiscon-sin?
How did Wiscon-sin, boys,
How did Wiscon-sin?
How did Wiscon-sin, boys,
How did Wiscon-sin?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
How did Wiscon-sin?

She stole a New-bras-key, boys,
She stole a New-bras-key
She stole a New-bras-key, boys,
She stole a New-bras-key
She stole a New-bras-key, boys,
She stole a New-bras-key
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She stole a New-bras-key

What did Tennessee, boys,
What did Tennessee?
What did Tennessee, boys,
What did Tennessee?
What did Tennessee, boys,
What did Tennessee?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
What did Tennessee?

She saw what Arkansaw, boys,
She saw what Arkansaw
She saw what Arkansaw, boys,
She saw what Arkansaw
She saw what Arkansaw, boys,
She saw what Arkansaw
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She saw what Arkansaw

How did Flora-die, boys,
How did Flora-die
How did Flora-die, boys,
How did Flora-die
How did Flora-die, boys,
How did Flora-die
I ask you now as a personal friend,
How did Flora-die?

She died in Missouri, boys,
She died in Missouri
She died in Missouri, boys,
She died in Missouri
She died in Missouri, boys,
She died in Missouri
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She died in Missouri

Where has Oregon, boys,
Where has Oregon?
Where has Oregon, boys,
Where has Oregon?
Where has Oregon, boys,
Where has Oregon?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
Where has Oregon?

She's gone to Oklahom, boys,
She's gone to Oklahom
She's gone to Oklahom, boys,
She's gone to Oklahom
She's gone to Oklahom, boys,
She's gone to Oklahom
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She's gone to Oklahom

Why did Califon-ya, boys,
Why did Califon?
Why did Califon-ya, boys,
Why did Califon?
Why did Califon-ya, boys,
Why did Califon?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
Why did Califon?

She phoned to say Hawai-ya, boys,
She phoned to say Hawai-ya
She phoned to say Hawai-ya, boys,
She phoned to say Hawai-ya
She phoned to say Hawai-ya, boys,
She phoned to say Hawai-ya
I tell you now as a personal friend,
That's why Califoned.

What did Mississip, boys,
What did Mississip?
What did Mississip, boys,
What did Mississip?
What did Mississip, boys,
What did Mississip?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
What did Mississip?

She sipped a Minnisota, boys,
She sipped a Minnisota
She sipped a Minnisota, boys,
She sipped a Minnisota
She sipped a Minnisota, boys,
She sipped a Minnisota
I tell you now as a personal friend,
That's what Mississipped.

― Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

most of kansas is like eastern colorado which is desolate so kansas sucks but then so does nebraska and they each qualify for the list of worst states to drive through, no contest. i am from michigan, the upper peninsula is great i spent all my summers(copper harbor, right at the top) there and spent those feeding marshmallows to bears at the garbage dump, and the buildings in houghton-hancock are connected inside because they get so much snow they pile the snow up to the second floor and they put up guidelines at michigan tech so the students can get from building to building during the squalls that roll in off lake superior. they're gonna elect a canadian as governor though, fools.

― keith (keithmcl), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

they're gonna elect a canadian as governor though, fools.

No, it's totally fucking classic. I'll be glad to see the back of potatoe head Engler and his dumb lackey Dick.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

potatoe head Engler and his dumb lackey Dick

Oh my god, we have a new supervillian team here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

"Potatoe-Head Engler and His Dumb Lackey Dick" An Adult Comic by Dan Quayle

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

by Dan Quayle

another reason to pick on Indiana.

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

From here (the University of Delaware) ,based on my experience, all the students from Delaware, Maryland, and elsewhere are often really cool people. But all the people from New Jersey, and long Island which makes up much of the student population are visor-wearing turtlenecked-sweatered fraternaty buy-sorostitutes-with-your-dad's-creditcard losers. (minus a few exceptions from south Jersey)

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

1. I told a joke in Idaho, they liked my joke and really let me know.
     ‘Cause in Idaho they go, “Ho, ho, ho,” and roll on the floor.

2. So then I went to Tennessee. I told my joke, they greeted it with glee.
      ‘Cause in Tennessee they go, “Hee, hee, hee,”
     In Idaho they go, “ho, ho, ho,” and roll on the floor.

3. Well, next I went to Arkansas. I told my joke and got a big guffaw.
     ‘Cause in Arkansas they go, “haw, haw, haw.”
     In Tennessee they go, “hee, hee, hee.”
     In Idaho they go, “ho, ho, ho,” and roll on the floor.

4. I tried my luck in old Kentuck.
     I told my joke and they were thunderstruck
     ‘Cause in old Kentuck they go, “nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.”
     In Arkansas they go, “haw, haw, haw.”
     In Tennessee they go, “hee, hee, hee.”
     In Idaho they go, “ho, ho, ho,” and roll on the floor.

5. My joke went big in Washington, where ho, ho, ho’s are hardly ever done.
     ‘Cause in Washington they go, “Oh what fun!”
   In old Kentuck they go, “nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.”
     In Arkansas they go, “haw, haw, haw.”
     In Tennessee they go, “hee, hee, hee.”
     In Idaho they go, “ho, ho, ho,” and roll on the floor.

6. I went back home to Delaware. I told my joke and all they did was stare.
     It was very upsetting.
     ‘Cause in Washington they go, “Oh, what fun!”
     In old Kentuck they go, “nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.”
     In Arkansas they go, “haw, haw, haw.”
     In Tennessee they go, “hee, hee, hee.”
     In Idaho they go, “ho, ho, ho,” and roll on the floor.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone will post "Fifty Nifty United States" any minute now.

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

oh hells yeah princeton record exchange!!

the answer to this question is simple: connecticut.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm from, and still live in, New Jersey. Ergo, it does not suck and it is not the worst American state (not by a longshot).

I don't hate the South or Southerners, either. But South Carolina still gets my vote for worst (though very persuasive arguments for Mississippi, Texas, and Idaho can also be made).

Lawng-Guyland (a/k/a "Land of a Thousand Yentas" or "JAP-an") and Staten Island (where the Mullet, the Camaro, the Cavariccis, and the Guido still roam proud and free) are embarrassments to the otherwise fine state of New York. And both cause a goodly percentage of what sucks in New Jersey (see the Outerbridge Crossing).

― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 05:36 (twenty-two years ago)

ok, I give in.

how did this thread get so far without anyone mentioning the non-Grand Canyon parts of Arizona? They have the time zone contrariness of Indiana plus the refusing to recognize Martin Luther King Day embarassment.

My brother lives there, so it's not all bad, but as a state it's a disgrace.

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 05:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Lawng-Guyland (a/k/a "Land of a Thousand Yentas" or "JAP-an")

Yeah, all those Jewish people make the place damn near uninhabitable!

― Jody Beth Rosen, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 06:46 (twenty-two years ago)

But why all the anti-Teexas sentiment? They have Texas Justice!

http://www.powerofattorneytv.com/images/Home/TJhome_03.jpg

― Miss Laura, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 06:54 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.powerfattorneytv.images/Home/TJhome_01.jpg
http://www.powerfattorneytv.images/Home/TJhome_02.gif

Ha ha, I decapitated Judge Larry Joe.

― Miss Laura, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 06:57 (twenty-two years ago)

You'll get the death penalty for that in Texas!

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 09:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, his chin sorta survived.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Indiana and Florida are the worst I've been to. Indiana is just so midwestern and corny, and Florida is nothing but old people, annoying cubans, lame college kids, and completely unbearable weather.

― Kris (aqueduct), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

What's wrong with midwestern and corny? The midwesterners do all the work around here.

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone was wearing these stupid Jeff Foxworthy tee-shirts. I felt like I was on another planet.

― Kris (aqueduct), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

they're just too tired from doing all the work to shop.

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

felicity is correct that Mid Westerners do all the heavy lifting. And what do we have to show for it? Nothing but contempt from snooty Easterners and a skadillion dollars in agri subsidies.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, all those trips to the bank do wear a body out.

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

On the plus side: Free Rodeo Friday's at the Bierstube!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Michigan is a beautiful state and a great one to live in.

Anyone who thinks otherwise can jump in Ford Lake.

― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

*searches for Ford Lake pictures*

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Andy does have a very good point.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Right, right, I seem to recall that Andy has also never been to Big Rapids.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, it was kind of a joke. I've known people who have been waterskiing and having fun in said lake etc and then WOOPS hello BIG UNIDENTIFIABLE OBJECT and broken legs. Hence "go jump in Ford Lake."

― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Detroit's beautiful so what do I know?

― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually get down on Michigan a lot and think there's many things that could be a lot better, but there are still parts of it that redeem it and make it grebt.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 17 October 2002 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

To be honest I'm pretty fond of it myself.

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 17 October 2002 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

geeta is right, connecticut serves no visible purpose except in world wide WASP exports.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 October 2002 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Ray Allen to thread!

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 17 October 2002 04:29 (twenty-two years ago)

James, I was confusing Ray Allen with Ray Lewis in my head for a moment and thinking, gee, I wonder where in Connecticut Ray Lewis is from.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 17 October 2002 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

New Haven, maybe.

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 17 October 2002 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I've also lived in South Carolina and it did indeed suck. At the time, everyone was fighting to keep the confederate flag flying. Of course, I did just live minutes away from Bob Jones University (read: women not allowed to show their ankles there, women and men not allowed to be alone together on campus - they even had a Holding Hands room with chaperones). But somehow I still think Louisiana was worse.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 17 October 2002 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

No way - they got boudain!

Non-coastal South Carolina is almost unredeemable though.

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 17 October 2002 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...

of the ones i have been to, i think delaware is the one i liked the least, then maybe connecticut. neither were bad but they were not as good as the others. delaware just seemed a little on the drab side

― gareth (gareth), Sunday, 27 July 2003 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

If mere thoughts could kill, I think every single one of the people who mentioned Texas in this thread would already have family members planning out their funeral.

SO FUCKING STOP WITH THE ANTI-TEXAS SENTIMENTS, YOU FUCKING MORONS.

*ahem* Sorry. A bit sensitive nowadays.

I'm not going to mention any one state because I don't think it would be fair.

― Just Deanna (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 27 July 2003 10:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think you are taking this in the right spirit.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 27 July 2003 10:46 (twenty-two years ago)

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