Did Bush Do 911?

george bush fucked 911

Even the woman i know who thinks the CIA is running al-Shabaab doesn't think Bush did 9/11.

im always disappointed by alternate explanations of 9.11 they lack the poetic reach of really interesting conspiracies. like its always just 'these people/person i dislike was responsible' theres no occult or fantastic implications. pretty lame\\

voted 'i believe in a different insane conspiracy...' for those reasons. gonna cook something up hot enough to melt steel for myself to believe in, probably involve the eternal war btw netzach and hod

Should have included:

- I cannot decide which of the above choices best serves my need to vote ironically.

can't wait to see similar threads about gulf of tonkin, the maine, and the lusitania

when Mordy needs more diversions from challenges to his worldview

p. sure Bush did not sink the Lusitania, but I'm willing to be convinced.

I hate Bush and certainly think he was incompetent and that his administration used 9/11 as an excuse to go invade Iraq on false premises but in no way do I think they actually orchestrated and/or knew that this was going to happen, that is dumb.

I don't think Oswald was the only shooter though.

(osamathumbsup)

jesus morbz get (1) coherence please i have no idea what you're talking about half the time

pretty sure 911 was faked by big pharma

lol @ 1st entry on this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIHOP

oswald not being the only shooter is just a dull historical fact at this point

holding out for the fdr thread: provoked japan in hopes of attack vs dispatched the planes himself

have always felt that 9/11 skeptics would be better off looking at the long history of al qaeda's rise and the cia's alleged role in arming them in the '80s, but that's not as much fun to talk about as the "jet fuel can't melt steel" blah blah business. (this is also true of the JFK case, where most ppl tend to focus on the unsolvable "who shot from where" business instead of the evidence of oswald's intelligence connections.)

the dumber conspiracy stuff also serves as a pretty annoying distraction from the fact that bush et al had plenty of reason to anticipate an al qaeda attack and didn't prevent it, which is kind of a major scandal in and of itself even if you assume no ill intent.

george bush doesn't care about black people

stet tbh

9/11 skeptics would be better off looking at the long history of al qaeda's rise and the cia's alleged role in arming them in the '80s

this is not a conspiracy tho. a conspiracy imo requires the accusation of malicious conspiracy. the cia didn't arm/train the mujahideen bc they wanted to prep them to fly planes into the twin towers two decades later.

yeah, the CIA thing is more like a comedy of errors

DAMMIT I CD'VE GONE WITH COMEDY OF TERRORS

so close

whereas Muslims DID train Obama to be their secret agent

there are subtle variations on the obama is a muslim conspiracy theory too. a. obama is actually a secret muslim secret agent, b. obama's formative years were influenced by being raised in an islamic environment, c. obama subscribes to a colonial philosophy that makes him sympathetic to muslims

whereas Wall Street DID train Obama to be their secret agent.

the dumber conspiracy stuff also serves as a pretty annoying distraction from the fact that bush et al had plenty of reason to anticipate an al qaeda attack and didn't prevent it, which is kind of a major scandal in and of itself even if you assume no ill intent.

I hate Bush and certainly think he was incompetent and that his administration used 9/11 as an excuse to go invade Iraq on false premises but in no way do I think they actually orchestrated and/or knew that this was going to happen, that is dumb.

these posts pretty much sum it up for me

u know what's funny is that i always assumed that the CIA supporting the foreign mujahideen was universally agreed upon but now that i read a little bit there are pretty compelling reasons why that might not be true

which of these is the Jadakiss position?

Of course it's true. They made Charlie Wilson's War about it. Would they have made that film if it wasn't true?

Also, it's pretty awesome that there is a conspiracy theory which ends up with Obama being 'sympathetic to muslims'. Because anything other than blind hate is obviously suspicious.

afaict, having never seen the flick, that's what d'souza's movie was about

Oh, it sounds perfectly plausible to me.

there's more to it obv if it was just he's sympathetic to muslims it wouldn't be a conspiracy theory. it's about how that anticolonialism background generates his attempts to reshape america

hence Bill Ayres, Jeremiah Wright, and living in Manhattan.

fourth highest grossing domestic documentary since 1982

That d'souza movie has a scene where black children angrily argue with each other while playing a board game (I think it's Monopoly)

I secretly hope Obama is agnostic and the xtian thing is just for politics

a firm belief of Bill Maher, so be proud

x-posts, and has been forgotten, but the west def collaborated with the mujahedeen. This is a picture of Lars Løkke Rasmussen, former and unfortunately probably future Danish prime minister:

http://i56.tinypic.com/wi8z9w.jpg

def w/ the indigenous mujahedeen, unclear whether w/ afghan arabs or bin laden - obv i don't know either way

Kernel of truth, but never underestimate conspiracy theorists to take it way too far. I find it hard to believe if the CIA managed to deliver all the weapon and training without anything later being used against the west, but have also always heard it as indigenous mujahedeen.

Should have had Cheney/Rumsfeld as LIHOP/MIHOP vote options...

if he did it, and he knew all about it, then while he was sat there reading My Pet Goat for 5 minutes he gave a Brando-esque performance i shit thee nay. i mean *as if* they'd have him planted there in front of tv cameras and a bunc of kids instead of 'conveniently' on holiday or some shit.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Reagan_sitting_with_people_from_the_Afghanistan-Pakistan_region_in_February_1983.jpg

Who's that with Dutch, translator?

She's saying, "You can create a hologram of a plane to go into the Towers, it's amazing"

I'm drunk at the dinner table at mother and dad's house in Maine,' he told host Matt Lauer in his first TV interview since leaving the White House in 2009.

'And my brothers and sister are there, my wife Laura's there.

'And I'm sitting next to a beautiful woman, friend of mother and dad's. And I said to her out loud "what is sex like after 50?".'

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX polls. You decide.

Given the chance, I'd have voted "9/11 or no 9/11, George W. Bush sure was incompetent, wasn't he?"

oswald not being the only shooter is just a dull historical fact at this point

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, May 12, 2015 7:27 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hmmmm

http://i.imgur.com/3Z9YmbB.jpg

xp
yup. it's hard for me to find that historical fact dull, too. jfk's assassination created an enormous shift in US history.

Bush did the first tower but had no idea about the second

http://www.theonion.com/article/government-admits-it-was-only-behind-destruction-o-37699

https://youtu.be/6ub8xDhwLIw

you know that ziggy about 9/11

http://i.imgur.com/ibGdm5X.jpg

"Jet fuel can't melt steel beams, Nancy."

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE