most of them don't seem to be enjoying themselves tbh: Comic Book Movie Gravitas Bringers, the poll

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you mean the dude who used to be a decent/famous actor and is now lending ironic, legitimizing "gravitas" to the movie by appearing as an elder statesman?

why is there one of these in every superhero movie

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 25, 2015

because lots of actors like being in successful movie franchises?

― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, November 25, 2015

Who knew actors liked to act in high profile appearances!

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, November 25, 2015

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Batman Begins (2005) - Michael Caine, Liam Neeson, Gary Oldman, Tom Wilkinson, Morgan Freeman 2
Thor (2011), Thor: The Dark World (2013) - Rene Russo, Anthony Hopkins 2
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) - Robert Redford 1
X-Men (2000), X2 (2003), X-Men: TLS (2006), X-Men: DOFP (2014) - Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen 1
Hellboy II: The Golden Army (2008) - John Hurt 1
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007) - Andre Braugher 1
The Incredible Hulk (2008) - William Hurt 0
The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) - Martin Sheen 0
Superman Returns (2006) - Zombie Marlon Brando 0
Hellboy (2004) - John Hurt 0
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) - Glenn Close, Benicio Del Toro 0
Green Lantern (2011) - Geoffrey Rush 0
Man of Steel (2013) - Kevin Costner, Diane Lane 0
Ghost Rider (2007) - Sam Elliott, Peter Fonda 0
Elektra (2005) - Terence Stamp 0
Iron Man 2 (2010) - John Slattery, Garry Shandling 0
Iron Man 3 (2013) - Ben Kingsley 0
Kingsman: The Secret Service (2014) - Michael Caine, Colin Firth 0
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003) - Sean Connery 0
The Punisher (2004) - Roy Scheider 0
Spider-Man (2002), Spider-Man 2 (2004), Spider-Man 3 (2007) - Rosemary Harris 0
The Dark Knight (2008), The Dark Knight Rises (2012) - Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman 0
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) - Tommy Lee Jones, Hugo Weaving 0
The Wolverine (2013) - Hiroyuki Sanada 0
Iron Man (2008) - Jeff Bridges 0


El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:30 (ten years ago)

Less sexism, less Rutger Hauer

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:30 (ten years ago)

Still forgot Ant-Man oh well not like Douglas was really in the running - was he?

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:32 (ten years ago)

Write-in for Snowpiercer (John Hurt, Ed Harris).

phở intellectual (WilliamC), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:34 (ten years ago)

That was a comic book?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:37 (ten years ago)

Ah, disqualified because the comic book was in French originally.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:38 (ten years ago)

(I cribbed from this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_English-language_comics - hence the omission)

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:38 (ten years ago)

Yeah, I was just trying to get a righteous goddammit out of Tombot since he restarted the poll.

phở intellectual (WilliamC), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:40 (ten years ago)

But they totally fit the poll remit.

phở intellectual (WilliamC), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:41 (ten years ago)

Well, I thought of this as really more of a superhero movie vice the broader "comic book" movie idea I guess

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:45 (ten years ago)

http://lancemannion.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/04/pirates_davy_jones.jpg

"Your poll is bad and you should feel bad!"

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:45 (ten years ago)

oops that was meant for the old poll. this poll is fine.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:46 (ten years ago)

you hate sally field though. you really hate her.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:47 (ten years ago)

JESUS CHRIST

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:48 (ten years ago)

you know what, fuck the Spiderman reboot anyway

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:49 (ten years ago)

yeah the main ones not enjoying themselves there were in the audience

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:49 (ten years ago)

Actually changed my vote based on Fred B's correction. 100% of the story of Thor 2, like why anything in the movie even matters, to the extent that it does, is because of Rene Russo. And then Benicio in the credits splash for GOTG made me very happy but not bcz "gravitas"

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 01:19 (ten years ago)

w'happened to Living Marlon Brando from '78? Kinda set up the template.

What was the first blockbuster comic-book movie aside from the Reeve Supermans and the Burton Batmans? Cuz I like at least 3 of those and don't want to blame the plague on them.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 November 2015 01:44 (ten years ago)

Yeah, I stuck with the post 9/11 era of superhero films, more or less on purpose.

Laurence Fishburne shows up in a lot of comic book movies as a gravitas bringer as well - not so much superhero flicks though

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 01:54 (ten years ago)

The first of this era is Singer's X-Men. After that casting coup followed by bajillions of dollars the doors came off. Iron Man was just the beginning of the Marvel Studios machine - it really seems funny to think that back when that came out it was seen as a gamble

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 01:57 (ten years ago)

most of these ppl were notorious hams willing to appear in any piece of garbage as long as the check cleared long before batman began. i mean - michael caine? anthony hopkins?

balls, Thursday, 26 November 2015 02:21 (ten years ago)

And how much Mark Millar stuff do we want to bring in?

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Thursday, 26 November 2015 03:18 (ten years ago)

hey Michael Caine did the occasional Quiet American tho

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 November 2015 03:22 (ten years ago)

And how much Mark Millar stuff do we want to bring in?

I brought in exactly the amount I was comfortable with when I made the poll. Wasted precious cycles on considering, then discarding his shit instead of remembering Sally Field

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 03:27 (ten years ago)

Kevin Costner's appearance in Man of Steel made me wonder if anybody phoned his agent and said "He does know he's not in a comedy, right?"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 26 November 2015 15:36 (ten years ago)

I luckily don't remember much from that movie. Only reason I had to watch any of it is because the wife ws Henry Cavill.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 16:28 (ten years ago)

are we voting for the performance of the gravitas bringer(s) or the film itself? because ian mckellan over ben kingsley for the former but guardians of the galaxy for the latter

balls, Thursday, 26 November 2015 16:48 (ten years ago)

honorable mention to andre braugher in fantastic four two, because it really did get the ball rolling on his inheriting leslie nielsen, leading to his truly amazing work on brooklyn 99

balls, Thursday, 26 November 2015 16:52 (ten years ago)

thing about ben kingsley (***(***SPOILERS FOR IRON MAN 3***)***) is that his gravitas-bringing is part of the joke/twist, like he's exactly who they would cast if they were trying to step up their villains to this OMG THIS IS SERIOUS AS SHIT "dark knight" level, and then kingsley and the character both turn out to be the exact opposite of that. which was great. but it sorta disqualifies him from the gravitas-bringing contest in a way.

mckellen/stewart combo is pretty hard to top imo. though i'm surprised to realize i haven't seen most of these movies! they've really cranked 'em out while i wasn't paying attention.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 November 2015 16:54 (ten years ago)

Connery's appearance in LXG literally drove him out of the movie business. Don't get much more "Have my agent killed and send the widow a ham" than that.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 17:04 (ten years ago)

To be fair, he was getting on in years, and there was already a three-year gap between Finding Forrester and LXG. The amazing thing is how many successful films he'd had in his sixties.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 November 2015 18:44 (ten years ago)

two weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:01 (ten years ago)

Actually Michael Douglas gravitas-bringing is pretty central to Ant-Man, I mean he even gets shot and you think he might actually be dead for a couple minutes - basically the only dramatic weight of the movie right up until the ludicrous "villain gratuitously decides to imperil hero's child" ending

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:00 (ten years ago)

But I guess we'll never know if he could have won this poll

or Sally Field but seriously those movies are terrible

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:00 (ten years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 17 December 2015 00:01 (ten years ago)

I thought the hydra reveal was dumber than the imperiling of child -- that was mostly a set piece setup for the whole "fighting among toys" bit

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 00:06 (ten years ago)

wow low turnout!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 00:06 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

http://nerdist.com/bryan-cranston-zordon-power-rangers-nerdist-news/

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 18:17 (eight years ago)

(not really "comic book," i know. and that's a five-minute video to get you a single blurry still of someone's phone camera photo of a VR headset promotional thing. but i thought the URL was pretty on-point for the thread.)

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 18:19 (eight years ago)

also, skimming through Least promising Sequel/Remake/Franchise Flick of 2017 it looks like this trend may have slackened just a bit, unless post-Birdman Keaton as The Vulture, Cate Blanchett as Hela, Willem Dafoe as Aquaman's Pal Nuidis Vulko, or Kurt Russell as Ego the Living Planet (bafflingly not a planet in the movie) count. From last year I can only recall Jeremy Irons as Alfred and Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 18:28 (eight years ago)

Kurt Russell should never count as a gravitas bringer, and he always seems to be enjoying himself.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 18:53 (eight years ago)

Russell as Ego the Living Planet (bafflingly not a planet in the movie)

lol wtf is this nonsense I WILL STAB WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 18:54 (eight years ago)

But yeah this particular Save The Cat ingredient does seem to have fallen off, even in the origin story / franchise kickoff ones where it's seemingly inescapable

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 18:54 (eight years ago)

I forget where I read about it, but I guess Cranston was involved with the original iteration of Power Rangers in some non-performing capacity so this isn't quite as much a stretch as some of these other examples.

(Got A) Key In My Peehole (From Peeing Through a Keyhole) (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 19:40 (eight years ago)

okay good point about Russell. he's old now but definitely brings fun and joy moreso than gravitas. not sure i've ever disliked him, even in some real shitty movies.

next year, the famously selective Josh Brolin will be playing Thanos in the third Avengers movie. Brolin was looking to explore the humanity of the character, saying there are "parts of him that are unfounded to me, which will be found." i guess he was in the last one for a second but i don't remember that at all.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:17 (eight years ago)

Thanos has made I think two appearances thus far that amount to a cumulative 3.5 seconds of screen time.

(Got A) Key In My Peehole (From Peeing Through a Keyhole) (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:43 (eight years ago)

no one tell Brolin that Thanos isn't human

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:47 (eight years ago)

really wish H'wood would move past this phase already

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:48 (eight years ago)

I'm sticking with my conspiracy theory that they're lying about GOTG 2 and Stallone is actually playing the living planet

mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 21:29 (eight years ago)

pretty sure james gunn has promised that ego the living planet will appear in his full planetary glory for at least part of gotg2

frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 21:51 (eight years ago)

and i for one will rip up seats in the cinema if it doesn't happen because i have PRINCIPLES dammit

frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 21:53 (eight years ago)

fans to marvel: "let show my ego!"

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 22:25 (eight years ago)

Patrick Stewart in Logan: definitely enjoying himself with the lack of eyebrow-work, also not really bringing the gravitas.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 11:23 (eight years ago)

Isn't Hugh Jackman the gravitas bringer in Logan?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 12:27 (eight years ago)


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