Which secret Trump voter most closely resembles you?

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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/03/secret-donald-trump-voters-speak-out?CMP=twt_gu

Please explain your choice.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
The anti-PC college professor (50, California) 7
The yoga teacher (29, Tennessee) 6
The scientist who likes both Bernie and Donald (48, California) 4
The Occupy protester turned Trump supporter (24, New York) 4
The manager (52, South Carolina) 2
The Indian-American attorney who is part of the 1% (50, Illinois) 1
The white male early retiree (62, Delaware) 1
The evangelical pastor (51, Tennessee) 1
The gay Arab Muslim student (age not given, Missouri) 1
The retired biomedical engineer (56, Hawaii) 1
The casino supervisor (56, Oklahoma) 1
The Hispanic attorney (29, Florida) 0


i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 3 March 2016 16:55 (nine years ago)

I believe that Clinton will continue the Wall Street-style march to oligarchy. With her, the eventual demise of democracy will lead to a fascist plutocracy. It is going on right now, and it will continue to be slow, painful and inevitable.

I believe that it is too late for a conventional cure. So, there is Trump. He is indeed a buffoon and a recipe for disaster. If he were to do half of the horrific things he says he would, he would be a catastrophe. He could be a blend of Hitler and Hirohito.

That’s why I would vote for him. The last time we crossed paths with a Hitler and/or Hirohito, the country woke up and fought. And won! He might supply us with the shock we need in order to wake up and fight.

hey guys remember how america elected hitler and hirohito

I dont want my hamster to eat meat cuz it could think im food (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 March 2016 16:58 (nine years ago)

really needed to add the 34-year-old Muslim woman who lives in Minneapolis

http://www.nytimes.com/live/super-tuesday-2016-elections/a-muslim-woman/

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:07 (nine years ago)

I thought about it but decided to constrain the poll to a single source.

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:09 (nine years ago)

Which secret castaway on Gilligan's island most closely resembles you?

art, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:13 (nine years ago)

now you're making me wish I could edit the options to add "The Professor and Mary-Anne" to the end of the poll

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:13 (nine years ago)

O_O

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:14 (nine years ago)

btw trying to pick one of these and saying "this one is the closest to me" is making me incredibly uncomfortable

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:04 (nine years ago)

one-percenter humblebragging, I see.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:04 (nine years ago)

more like 10%, at least while my wife was drawing an income

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:08 (nine years ago)

damn that professor sounds like a genuine psychopath

nomar, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:09 (nine years ago)

if i was forced to pick...maybe the yoga teacher, i don't know. this is horrible.

nomar, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:10 (nine years ago)

I keep hovering over "The scientist who likes both Bernie and Donald (48, California)" and thinking ".... but NO"

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:10 (nine years ago)

reading anti-PC college professor is like looking into a dark mirror if I'm honest enough with myself about my reflexive feelings about a lot of activists. that guy is truly a monster though for taking it this far.

Gatemouth, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:10 (nine years ago)

I must confess to passing sympathy with the anti-capitalist who wants to see Amerikkka burn.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:11 (nine years ago)

I think it's instructive for voters to get what they wish for tbh

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:11 (nine years ago)

I picked the professor, not because I actually agree with him in the slightest way (I think so-called political correctness is a great thing, in fact), but because I sort of loosely relate to the urge to buck oversocialization, and because sometimes all the jargon and tweeting in modern social justice activism grates on me. Sort of connected to what Gatemouth said, I guess.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:14 (nine years ago)

i picked the professor too but i agree that it's more through a glass darkly than any kind of real resonance

Mordy, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:15 (nine years ago)

because this is such a fascinating document, i'm gonna run this down (bear with me)

The Hispanic attorney (29, Florida): thinks Trump is a good person in secret, but more importantly, the social left is too strong:

"Before he ran, the left’s stranglehold on the national conversation of what is or isn’t tolerable was getting stronger by the minute. It was the year of Caitlyn Jenner. Rachel Dolezal. Black Lives Matter. Anyone who even hinted at disapproval was exiled."

The scientist who likes both Bernie and Donald (48, California): look frankly i think this guy is just a straight-up antisemite, but is a classic old anglo-leftist otherwise

I’m very concerned about radical Muslims, and liked Donald’s idea to stop all Muslim immigration. I’m also no supporter of Israel and I’m pro the BDS [boycott, divestment and sanctions] movement. I’m concerned that some US citizens have a loyalty to their own group over and above their loyalty to America, and will lobby accordingly. I’m a patriotic socialist, but my strong-borders patriotism wins over my socialism if I have to choose. As Donald says, we either have a country or we don’t.

The Occupy protester turned Trump supporter (24, New York): dude just breaks it down to "the worse, the better" -- it's a very old idea that some on the left will always latch onto

The casino supervisor (56, Oklahoma): what do you even say? it's textbook anger at elite behavior while putting the blame on the Other as the beneficiary

"We are also sick and tired of working and paying taxes and then seeing our government send it to other countries to benefit someone else when we have homeless people and vets that need it just as much."

goole, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:24 (nine years ago)

all of those people who hinted at disapproving of Rachel Dolezal's impersonation of an african american woman and who are now exiled to the margins of society

nomar, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:29 (nine years ago)

(sorry if this is irritating, this story is like catnip to me tbf)

goole, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:29 (nine years ago)

It's frankly touching to see a casino supervisor so concerned about homeless people and vets.

Telephone Meatballs (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:30 (nine years ago)

I'd like to get his digits so I can deliver warm meals and blankets with him.

Telephone Meatballs (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:32 (nine years ago)

(Prediction) If dude wins, many millennials will become skeptical of the idea of democracy as an inherent good. Other recent, bad presidents can be blamed on the establishment, but not this guy.

Treeship, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:33 (nine years ago)

The yoga teacher (29, Tennessee): probably the closest to my thinking (gulp): upset by the dark side of obama-ism: drones, whistleblower prosecutions, wall street, insurer-centric nature of obamacare

It isn’t a vote for Trump, but rather a vote against the political establishment (which must be removed from office at any cost – even if it means electing a reality TV star for president). The stakes are too high. Hillary cannot win or the oligarchy will continue unabated.

i dunno how people can arrive at that level of optimism about the trump moment

The retired biomedical engineer (56, Hawaii): thinks we need to have a fascist moment up front rather than slowly!

"That’s why I would vote for him. The last time we crossed paths with a Hitler and/or Hirohito, the country woke up and fought. And won! He might supply us with the shock we need in order to wake up and fight."

The gay Arab Muslim student (age not given, Missouri): thinks Trump will fight jihadi ideology the best

"Trump will break the poisonous bonds that hold America and the cult state of Saudi Arabia... He isn’t our enemy, he is the enemy of the globalist Wahhabi cult that has propagated mass violence and murder through out the world."

The anti-PC college professor (50, California): this dude is just straight up bitter and wants revenge on all the campus busybodies. there’s nothing else

I’m angry at forced diversity and constant, frequently unjustified complaints about racism/sexism/homophobia/lack of trans rights. I’m particularly angry at social justice warriors and my main reason to vote Trump is to see the looks on your faces when he wins. It’s not that I like Trump. It’s that I hate those who can’t stand him. I want them to suffer the shock of knowing all their torrents of blog posts and Tumblr bitch-fests and “I just can’t ...” and accusations of mansplaining didn’t actually matter.

The evangelical pastor (51, Tennessee): he’s electing a manager and enforcer, not a representative of his beliefs

The white male early retiree (62, Delaware): again, revenge on the left that has abandoned him:

The tension between my liberal politics and the real world has become too much to live with. Your publication and others have endlessly described the demographics of a Trump supporter; people look at me and assume I think a certain way. I am tired of being looked at with these assumptions in mind. I may as well join the Trump bandwagon simply because that is how I look and am treated.

The manager (52, South Carolina): electing Trump would be a lesson in how power really works in america:

Perhaps more people would begin to realize that members of Congress, governors, mayors, and members of the state houses have the real power.

The Indian-American attorney who is part of the 1% (50, Illinois): mass immigration is bad. that’s it.

A Trump presidency would mean to me a return to a US where immigrants came to this country in measured amounts, and who could substantially contribute to the economy and to society.

goole, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:37 (nine years ago)

the whole "straight-up antisemite" thing about the scientist is the thing keeping me from clicking on that choice. also he, like everyone else on this list, appears to be a complete and utter nightmare and aligning myself with any of them is virtually impossible even in a jokey no-stakes messageboard poll

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:42 (nine years ago)

feigned surprise at all these terrible justifications

art, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:42 (nine years ago)

Yoga teacher

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:50 (nine years ago)

look frankly i think this guy is just a straight-up antisemite

the support trump is getting from out-and-out antisemites (and make no mistake - the "jew" lies at the center of david duke's cosmology) is one of the most bewildering things to me about the phenomenon. do they not know that his daughter is an orthodox identifying jew, and his son is married to a jewish woman? or do they know but they understand it differently or as somehow not disqualifying?

Mordy, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:50 (nine years ago)

it's cool those Jews are some of the "good" ones

Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:52 (nine years ago)

i'm not sure if that's what they think. i've been reading a lot of their discussions + posts during this election cycle and it doesn't really come up at all. like maybe they know but they're intentionally ignoring it bc the implications would undermine their enthusiasm?

Mordy, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:52 (nine years ago)

it's really hard for me to tell, because a lot of the pro-trump antisemitism i see is on twitter, where it's coming from 4chan-type trolls -- ie people pretending to be nazis for laffs (who are pretty much nazis for real anyway)

goole, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:54 (nine years ago)

really should not be bewildering that antisemites don't have coherent views on something, regardless they're prob just excited to have an openly racist guy to vote for

iatee, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:55 (nine years ago)

right i almost added that i shouldn't be surprised that antisemites are idiots

Mordy, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:56 (nine years ago)

jewish conservatives like goldberg, podhoretz and ben shapiro have been constantly RTing the insane shit they've been getting on twitter. strong possibility it's the same couple hundred bored chan assholes laughing at themselves for being bad boys on the internet... but you really never know how deep or widespread this shit is

goole, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:57 (nine years ago)

coming from another direction, there's *also* the phenomenon of the alex jones paranoid truther element, which is strongly pro-Trump -- there's a strong element of antisemitism buried in that outlook, but it's been sublimated by a host of terminology meant to define a more-or-less identical enemy: the financiers, the globalists, the oligarchic elite, the international class, whatever they call it.

goole, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:59 (nine years ago)

how about the accelerationist occupy kid? i could see some twitter irony types lining up behind trump for similar reasons. 'we deserve it' etc

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 3 March 2016 19:22 (nine years ago)

"ripping at the soul of america -- and that's great!"

goole, Thursday, 3 March 2016 19:27 (nine years ago)

Again that's kind of true! Either the system "works" or bollocks to the system imo

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 March 2016 19:28 (nine years ago)

Xp

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 March 2016 19:28 (nine years ago)

Yoga teacher

I mean, obv, there's a real leap as to how voting for the billionaire real estate developer is a vote against oligarchy.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 March 2016 19:29 (nine years ago)

Again that's kind of true! Either the system "works" or bollocks to the system imo

plz vote for him but this is superficial bullshit. it's on an either/or, it's a process. the black + white shit only fuels the fascists.

Mordy, Thursday, 3 March 2016 19:31 (nine years ago)

it's not* an

Mordy, Thursday, 3 March 2016 19:31 (nine years ago)

a return to a US where immigrants came to this country in measured amounts

hey attorney guy, we had some YUGE amounts rollin' through Ellis Island in 1900-40

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 March 2016 19:34 (nine years ago)

Hard for me to vote between the various "sink the ship" lefties here, but i'm definitely on board with them

Nhex, Thursday, 3 March 2016 21:15 (nine years ago)

Might go for the gay arab muslim student- the poisonous bonds that hold America and the cult state of Saudi Arabia certainly do need breaking, and I can sort of see how you might think Trump was loco enough do actually do it. I don't share the optimism though.

Can't deny that the accelerationist/revolutionary-defeatist attitude has a certain appeal in bleak times like these, but as a straight wite d00d I'm aware it isn't a great look to go fronting on.

"Worried pimp" (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:03 (nine years ago)

i'm closest to the occupy kid cuz i was an occupy kid, but the totality of cynicism and despair required to vote for donald trump from an accelerationist perspective is, i am surprised to discover, beyond me. even if it weren't, i think i'd just kill myself, not vote for donald trump.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:07 (nine years ago)

is it just that they haven't thought about the suffering that the complete collapse of society/gov would bring or that they are pathologically optimistic that at the end of said suffering this time we will get it right and form a perfect society?

Mordy, Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:13 (nine years ago)

bc it seems like me like this country has a lot of guns, and an almost infinite wellspring of cruelty, and that we are very lucky that the edifice has held + continues to hold

Mordy, Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:14 (nine years ago)

goole's feted comment in the other thread about revenge probably relevant here too.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:18 (nine years ago)

don't think we're any likelier to find real defensible political coherence here than we are with the anti-semites.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:19 (nine years ago)

"kill myself" remark wasn't glib or even a joke. the actions seem basically the same to me except one of them tries to bring everyone else down with you.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:20 (nine years ago)

in college i made half a movie about a guy who's just broken up with someone and while terminally depressed he unexpectedly has to save the universe from an ancient immortal ghoul and onetime tsarist alchemist who seeks to destroy it in order to end his own suffering.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:23 (nine years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 00:01 (nine years ago)

"The manager" sounds like a comic book character and has the right outlook for it

If elected, Trump would accomplish very little to none of his vacuous agenda. His congressional agenda would be as dead on arrival as that of Bernie Sanders’s. So what good could result? Perhaps more people would begin to realize that members of Congress, governors, mayors, and members of the state houses have the real power. That the framers of the Constitution created this wonderfully balanced system in which no one person holds the kind of power that Trump claims he could wield. That democracy is messy and frustrating.

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 01:54 (nine years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 00:01 (nine years ago)

No Hispanic Attorneys?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 00:44 (nine years ago)

lol @ anti-PC professor taking the laurel here

"Worried pimp" (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 10:07 (nine years ago)


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