one time there were two magician movies

what's up with that

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is that randall flagg? shit

Paul Blart: Mall Cop (2009)
Observe & Report (2009)

There is I think a particular term for simultaneous but separate invention/conception, but I can't think of what it is. Anyone?

A Bug's Life (1998)
Antz (1998)

im pretty sure the generic Blart was probably more enjoyable than O&R

Deep Impact
Armaggedon

both 1998

Mirror Mirror (2012)
Snow White and The Huntsman (2012)

does dantes peak (1996) volcano (1997) count?

plausible deniability maybe

or wait the opposite of that

Turner & Hooch (1989)
K-9 (1989)

haha my summer camp took us to see K-9 on a field trip taht year.

^yes indeed that is the paradigmatic example

The end of the 80s also had a lot Vietnam movies come out in rapid succession, but that doesn't really fit squarely into what we're going for here.

Capote (2005)
Infamous (2006)

An American Werewolf In London and The Howling and Wolfen (1981)

My Dinner With Andre and Bustin' Loose (1981)

hercules
the legend of hercules

!!

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First Daughter (2004)
Chasing Liberty (2004)

Hoop Dreams
Poop Dreams

i always mix those up

Tombstone (1993)
Wyatt Earp (1994)

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DuelingWorks/Film

i seen one of the magician movies it was fucken stupid i can only imagine how fucken stupid the other magician movie is with alfie zulu in it

They're both okay, but the twist in the Edward Norton one is easy to guess, and since half of the movie rests on that "shocking" revelation, it kinda diminishes it. Whereas the the two major twists in the Christian Bale/Hugh Jackman one genuinely come out of the left field, which makes it more fun to watch, if not super memorable.

Can't remember the Norton one, but I guessed the Prestige twist and it didn't affect my enjoyment of it. Also I didn't know a certain cameo was going to be in it so that really made my day.

the prestige was so good.

There was even a third magician movie around the same time, by the peep show guys

Another borderline case:

The Truman Show (1998)
EDTV (1999)

Probably much too far apart to count but...
Porridge (1979)
Escape to Victory (1981)

Robin hoods

Famously there was a British Robin Hood film that ended up being completely eclipsed by prince of thieves

Xpost!

Feels weird to include that because there have probably been years when there have been like 7 Robin Hood films produced

War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407304/
The War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425638/
War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449040/

the first one is the Tom Cruise one, the second is the english version set at the same time as the book, the third is a knock-off rushed out on video ahead of the Cruise version to confuse people into buying it.

The General (1998)
Ordinary Decent Criminal (2000)

Both based on Irish gangster Martin Cahill

I thought it was normal to have certain themes be popular in certain years. Not sure what determines it , unless it is just competition within the industry. Or industries, do publishing houses do similar?

a second time there were two magician movies

the incredible burt wonderstone (2013)
now you see me (2013)

Because they were such anomalies at the time (two psycho-killer movies today wouldn't be notable), and because of the stature of the two directors, Psycho and Peeping Tom, both 1960.

I watched the British Robin Hood movie a few years ago, and it was really quite good, certainly better than Prince of Thieves. Possibly even the best Robin Hood feature film since the Errol Flynn era?

i kind of feel like

things to do in denver when you're dead (1995)
the usual suspects (1995)

should qualify but there were so many, so many tarantino knockoffs produced in the 90s that at least two of them would necessarily (emphasis) had to have bryan ferry, with his floppy, insouciant hair and sharply, elegantly disarrayed suits, as a former gangster trying to go straight but he's dragged back into the crimeworld for one last job to save his flailing enterprise but it goes disastrously wrong with an ensemble cast and interpersonal quibbling and banter that i'm not really sure if it does.

Another one that's maybe a bit of a stretch but I think fits: the two grand-diva movies of 1950, Sunset Boulevard and All About Eve.

California Split and The Gambler, 1974.

Catch-22 and MASH, 1970--not just war films, but a very specific kind of Strangelove absurdist black comedy.

Also both given a "not Vietnam, but we're really talking about Vietnam" gloss by their directors.

The Prestige has Bowie-as-Tesla in it
The Illusionist is a bad movie but has Philip Glass' best score ever

bridget jones' diary (2001)
legally blonde (200))

a blonde zaftig protagonist shows up at a party dressed in a bunny costume because they thought it was a costume party but it wasn't, but she wins the day despite things

The Illusionist wasn't even the best movie named The Illusionist in recent times

legally blonde also 2001, not 200)

xp omg I wasn't aware of that. My framed.wtf group chat is going to be busy!

Stingray
Corvette Summer

Along with Corvette Summer, it was one of two films centered around the Stingray to be released in June 1978, and was the subject of a feud with MGM over the use of the title.

Women Be Shopping Breaking Down and/or Going Crazy

Diary of A Mad Housewife, 1970
Puzzle of A Downfall Child, ''
A Safe Place, 1971
Play It as It Lays, 1972
Images, ''
Cries and Whispers, ''
Ciao! Manhattan, ''
A Woman Under The Influence, 1974

could add Wanda, maybe

one time there were 2,397 films informed by the existence of patriarchy

Otm

Name them all or I'm calling thread police!

Memoirs By Cast Members Of Girls Covering Their Time On The Show:

Zosia Mamet: Does This Make Me Funny? (2025)
Lena Dunham: Famesick (2026)

one time there were 50 game shows about people betraying each other for money

In late 2017 there were two films about doomed sailor Donald Crowhurst - Crowhurst in September 2017 and the more expensive The Mercy two months later.

The former was produced by Nicholas Roeg, who would be a great candidate for the "people I was surprised to find out are still alive" thread if it wasn't for the fact that he died in 2018.

The latter starred the Colin Firth, who is doomed to spend his entire career getting wet on camera. With music by Jóhann Jóhannsson. So far there hasn't been news on a sequel, although the story basically writes itself. In fact the whole thing could be a stealth prequel to the inevitable Splash reboot.

I'm going to submit this and then click "show all messages" and find out that someone has already mentioned it. But that's okay because Ilxor has an edit button.

Splash is the question to the answer "they used a mixture of glue and tape".

How to Get Ahead in Advertising,1989
The Icicle Thief, 1989

If I recall correctly, both over the top postmodern farces of consumerism. There’s probably a few more circa ‘89 too, right?

The Secret of My Success?

Brewster's Millions (1985)

Movies Starring Music Icons Playing Thinly-Veiled Versions of Themselves Dealing With Publishing/Catalogue Control Issues:

Songwriter, 1984 (Willie Nelson)
Give My Regards To Broad Street, '' (Paul McCartney)

Country Music Movies:

Coal Miner's Daughter, 1980
Honeysuckle Rose, ''
Honkytonk Man, 1982
Tender Mercies, 1983
Songwriter, 1984
Sweet Dreams, 1985

Urban Cowboy ‘80

^^I'll allow it, even though it's not as concerned with performers/the biz as it is the lifestyles of fans (but I didn't specify that in my post).

Also:

The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia, 1981

Rhinestone (1984)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS2-l3hEn5Y

Unbelievably, I've discovered that not only piece of shit flagfucker flick Olympus Has Fallen exists - "The plot depicts a North Korean-led guerrilla assault on the White House, and focuses on disgraced Secret Service agent Mike Banning's efforts to rescue U.S. President Benjamin Asher", but another doubtless piece of shit flagfucker flick called White House Down - "a divorced US Capitol Police officer attempts to rescue both his daughter and the President of the United States when a destructive terrorist assault occurs in the White House" came out three months later! Truly there was something in the air in 2013.

Sorry, Matt, we are nowhere near done with disgraced Secret Service agent Mike Banning's president-rescuing efforts. He returns in London has Fallen (2016) and Angel has Fallen (2019).

Presidents just can't stay out of peril when this fucker is around. Has it occurred to Mike Banning that maybe - just maybe - HE is the problem?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Has_Fallen?wprov=sfla1

Sorry I wasn't fully clear, I have actually seen both Olympus Has Fallen and London Has Fallen on - where else? - long-haul flights. White House Down I'd never heard of even though it made $205.4 million worldwide, but assuredly it will be available for viewing on an in-flight entertainment system near you. Amazingly it doesn't star Aaron Eckhart.

The originator of a lot of this is Air Force One with Harrison Ford.

And I think all are ultimately Tom Clancy knockoffs.

The Confederate White House Has Fallen.

I knew about Olympus Has Fallen and White House Down, and I knew about the London Has Fallen sequel, but I had no idea bout Angel Has Fallen or the TV shows! Weird stuff.

The twist will ultimately be that the Secret Service has been behind every attack, in order to justify its budget allocation.

Who or what is “Angel”? All I can think of is the London locale.

Angel Has Fallen sounds like a film where a demon Secret Service agent has to stop an assassination attempt on Lucifer.

The full title was Angel Has Fallen: A Rockford Files Saga, and it involved Jim Rockford (James Garner) tracking down his pal Angel (Stuart Margolin), the latter having disappeared after falling back into his con-man ways.

^^On that tip, something I just saw on Reddit:

Short-lived Mid-Season Replacement Primetime Dramas About The Supreme Court:

First Monday, 2002 (Co-Starred James Garner & Joe Mantegna, cancelled after 13 episodes)
The Court, '' (Starred Sally Field, cancelled after 3 of 7 filmed episodes aired)

Pilot episode for First Monday sounds ahead of its time: A Mexican man who fled to America to become a woman appeals for asylum

Out of context, at first I read the phrase "Mid-Season Replacement Primetime Dramas About The Supreme Court" to mean a drama about replacing a Supreme Court justice, and had my fingers crossed that Sally Field was going to be swapped in for Brett Kavanaugh.

one time there were two art theft threads

lol

WWII Comedies/Satires released by United Artists:

What Did You Do In The War, Daddy? (1966)
How I Won The War (1967)

i thought of such a good one for this thread the other day then forgot :(

oh yeah

Bewitched (1964-1972)
I Dream of Jeannie (1965-1970)

Timecrimes (2007)
Triangle (2009)
both featuring head-bandaged antagonist

The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus
Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium

one time there were two movies with awful titlea

Unbelievably, I've discovered that not only piece of shit flagfucker flick Olympus Has Fallen exists - "The plot depicts a North Korean-led guerrilla assault on the White House, and focuses on disgraced Secret Service agent Mike Banning's efforts to rescue U.S. President Benjamin Asher", but another doubtless piece of shit flagfucker flick called White House Down - "a divorced US Capitol Police officer attempts to rescue both his daughter and the President of the United States when a destructive terrorist assault occurs in the White House" came out three months later! Truly there was something in the air in 2013.

So the really interesting point about these two movies is that Olympus Has Fallen is the hyper-serious conservative version of the movie and White House Down is the goofy, Die Hard pastiching, Obama-era liberal version of the movie. I used to show the trailers for both movies in class sometimes as part of an exercise on how two similar stories can have very different tones.

also the protagonist of White House Down is named JOHN CALE

Paris 1919 Down

Once (1968) there were two movies about a widower and a widow, each with children, who met and formed an unwieldy blended family:

Yours, Mine and Ours and With Six You Get Eggroll.

The following year there was a TV show with the same premise, The Brady Bunch.

otm

Okay but the "big messy blended families" conceptual cluster of Brady Bunch also embraces Eight Is Enough, the Waltons, and the Partridge Family.

Adjacent: Cheaper by the Dozen, My Three Sons, the Ghost and Mrs. Muir.

There's also the adjacent genre of big family comedies in general such as Please Don't Eat the Daisies, but maybe that's too vague.

Oh yeah, thanks, that's another in that conceptual cluster.

Well the Waltons, the Eight Is Enough kids, the Partridge Family, and the family in Cheaper by the Dozen weren't actually blended families, were they? Messy, perhaps.

Yeah, I guess I mean messy and/or blended

not sure if this one has been posted yet...

Mi Familia (1995)
The Perez Family (1995)

Musicals of 1936:
Oh, Susanna
Banjo on my Knee

Body Horror movies about aging female celebrities undergoing mysterious procedures with unintended negative consequences ending in a user of the procedure turning into a monster and going on a bloody rampage:
The Substance
Shell

Both movies also had their North American premieres at TIFF 2024.