Which movie titles are frequently mispronounced?

I often hear Americans pronounce the classic François Truffaut film Jules and Jim as "Joolz and Jim," instead of using the more appropriate French pronunciation of that title. Weirdly, even film buffs who are fans of the film mispronounce its title.

The caper film Topkapi from 1964 is admittedly awkward to pronounce, but I've never heard anyone say it the right way, which is something like TOPE-ka-puh.

I remember hearing a high school friend of mine pronounce the war movie, The Big Red One with emphasis on the word "red," (and getting mocked for it).

Jules and Jim are English-language names, and you're complaining they're pronounced like they're English-language names by native English speakers? I can see why you're so angry.

*shits*

Jules is a french character and his name is pronounced the French way in the original soundtrack of the movie

So? If they had a song named "Joe" where it's pronounced the French way, you think any English speaker's going to say it that way? Unless they're a total fuck.

Jules is a common French name and everyone knows how it's pronounced

English speakers are notorious for not giving a fuck how a word is pronounced by non-English speakers, even if the word in question is not an English word. Take, as a representative example, "Paris".

Yeah but where there's a famous movie with famous characters who are called by particular names in that movie, and those names are in the title of the fucking movie, there's really only one way to say the title, and that's to say their names as they are pronounced in the movie.

Casablanca. it's supposed to rhyme with Herbie: Fully Loaded.

there's really only one way to say the title, and that's to say their names as they are pronounced in the movie.

someone must tell the people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAiKdyKsmPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-3bOBwXBso

Neither your best friend Jules nor Jim Carrey was in the movie Jules and Jim so you're wasting our time

I understand your frustration, Josefa. How hard is it, people? Say it out loud: JUH-LESS. Duh.

It always bothers be when people don't pronounce Casablanca with the long 'a' in every syllable as intended.

'bothers ME'. Sorry, I hab a cold.

I just looked it up because I don't remember ever hearing Jules pronounced in the non-English way.

So it's kinda like Zhool? Neat, I guess, but wgaf.

I have a feeling I posted this on the wrong message board

Don't forget to pronounce Jim with the non-silent 'B' at the end.

Maybe try to answer the question without idiocy?

Seriously, guys. Let's stop goofing around here.

as a wise man once said, cool it

I can't apologize enough for these knuckleheads, Josefa.

Das Boot

Dis Butt, iirc?

I'm kind of in love with the big RED one.

Das Boot, thank you, that's a good one

x-post Yeah the big red one was fiercer than the yellow one or any of the blue ones

the big red ONE

http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/lookandlearn-preview/B/B841/B841514.jpg

"I often hear Americans pronounce the classic François Truffaut film..."

I don't

this one has been so aggravating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdRfg8xhe1s

pretty sure i've seen Truffaut mispronounce a bunch of English titles that lazy fuck

A teacher from my middle school tried to make us pronounce Perseus as per-SOOSE, but even at age 12 we knew she was batty

the funny thing is in the film they make a point of noting that jim is pronounced in the english way

my friend calls it 'jules et jim' pronouncing both names as english and 'et' like the latin word

I keep thinking of that Aliens prequel in a German pronunciation cos of Blixa singing it that way. Trying to think of the song off 5 on the Rickterskala it's in. Is it 12 Stata.
'Ich bin Pro-may-toyss' or similar

I once heard someone pronounce The Bicycle Thief as "ill laundry debussy klata" or something

Yesterday, in conversation, my wife, who is American, made some reference to Robin Hood. I asked her, 'Why do Americans always say ROB-in Hood, rather than Robin HOOD?' Neither of us could come up with an answer, other than that it might be connected to 'Hood' not being an actual surname. It would be interesting to know if people in Britain have always said it with the stress on 'Hood', or for that matter if people in America have always said it the other way.

Lol all names should be mispronounced the way Americans say Robin Hood imo

"CHE-vychase"

The big red one

The fuck "should" nb bullshit word imo this be pronounced

Haven't seen it but assume it's like there's a huge number one painted on the wall in red & you're all hey look at that big red one

Fuller was a World War II veteran and served with the 1st Infantry Division, which is nicknamed The Big Red One for the red numeral "1" on the Division's shoulder patch. He received the Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart during his service. He was present at the liberation of the Falkenau concentration camp.[1]

The fuck are u meant to know that

http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/lookandlearn-preview/B/B841/B841514.jpg

Interesting thing with Canute (Knut?) is that he apparently wanted to prove that he wasn't all powerful so the lesson learnt from the Canute versus the waves is the opposite of what he was trying to show his sycophantic courtiers. At least that's what i heard.

xp you aren't! Calm down

xp yeah i believe that's what the original point of the story was but it works either way

I'm awful calm I like these outraged threads

It would be interesting to know if people in Britain have always said it with the stress on 'Hood', or for that matter if people in America have always said it the other way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyYr6L5xQM

I also heard that the original version of robin Hood or certainly one of the very early ones was a propaganda/advertising tool for the wool guild. Trying to advertise a new line in fashion in medieval England.

"robin hood" is actually supposed to be pronounced "albrecht duerer"

There are differences on both sides of the Atlantic, it's pronounced 'Jeremy Corbyn' in the UK and 'Bernie Sanders' in the US.

The French make zero effort to correctly pronounce English language names. I fully realized this when I was talking to a French person and he pronounced Richard Gere as "Reeshar Zhair".

I don't think they care about English speaking people saying "Jules and Jim".

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jules and jim is pronounced 'faust arp'

So sports commentators who pronounce PSG as Pay-Ess-Zhay and Racing Club as Rrrrrraseeng Cloob can gtf. (xxp)

its a stupid argument anyway because you'd pronounce it the french way if you were saying it with the et but if youre saying the american way why not say 'faust arp'

what is faust arp? I'm not getting a phonetic pronunciation thing from taht and otherwise may be missing a reference.

The World According To iirc

The World According To Jules et Jim

The fuck are u meant to know that

yes, you amateur

It occurs to me that I have seen some of the big red one & found it kinda boring

fuck are U supposed to know that? is taht what i'm missing, a near acronym. Or is that not it? not faymt? or does 2+ 2 not make 5?

Ha! Fuck are u supposed to ARP

the last is not an acronym but represents a belch

i advocate a freestyle approach to pronunciation

wins, that should have been AARP

^^ ARP warden

Are you insinuating I black out every night?

I always find it a bit funny that here in Finland, a lot of the older folks (i.e. people who were alive in the '60s) prononounce "Beatles" as "beat less", not as "beetles". Apparently they know English well enough to know how to pronounce "beat" (if you pronounced "Beatles" like a proper Finnish word, it would be something like "beh-ut-les"), but the pun in the name is too much for them.

"beat less" is appropriate as the music of the Beatles has little to do with the amelodics music of James Brown

John Ford and Sam were great friends too, and Sam thought John Ford was the greatest director. Every year on the anniversary of D-Day, John Ford would call Sam and say, "Fuck The Big Red One" and he'd hang up...laughing It went on for years between them.

Fuck The Big Red One XXII: The Big Red One Does Dallas

I think if I heard an American who isn't an academic or a film critic say "Zhule and Jim" I'd be irrationally angry.

Like why don't you just call it "Zhule Ey Zhim" oh wait because you are saying the title IN ENGLISH.

Also cause it's Zhules Ey Jim

xp otm life is too short for this shit and if it doesn't seem that way it may be down to the way you're living it you pronouncey wanker

zuul et vinz

People are misinterpreting this thread as an angry/snotty type of thread instead of an "isn't it curious" type of thread. Sure, pronounce Jewels any way you want, who cares! That was just one example of which I'd hoped there'd be more here, but whatever.

Btw, Serge Gainsbourg had no problem pronouncing Bonnie & Clyde (oh wait.. did he?)

my friend calls it 'jules et jim' pronouncing both names as english and 'et' like the latin word

― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Sunday, April 17, 2016 2:33 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wins' friend otm

Fuck The Big Red One XXII: The Big Red One Does Dallas

You pronounce the middle part like the Chinese president's surname, right?

Person: Something must be done. War would meant a prohibitive increase in our taxes.
Chicolini: Hey, I've got an uncle that lives in Texas.
Person: No, I'm talking about taxes. Money. Dollars.
Chicolini: Dallas. That's where my uncle lives. Dallas, Texas.

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Ha

The Hunchback of Notre Dame fits within the purview of this thread, I think.

You mean you pronounce it the ridiculous American way? Sorry, deems.

While we're at it, Bayern Munich is a strange half German half English monstrosity.

You don't understand, "hunchback" is another term for "cornerback" in the US. It's a whole other movie we're talking about.

L'Atalante

Pirates of the Carribean

Seriously, you wouldn't think it would be that challenging. It's not a coincidence that 'pirates' and 'pilates' are spelled similarly, people.

While we're at it, Bayern Munich is a strange half German half English monstrosity.

― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, April 18, 2016 6:47 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark

technically everyone in Italy pronounces A.C. Milan incorrectly

Also cause it's Zhules Ey Jim

I thought so too (and so I pronounced it in my French GCSE oral exam, quelle honte) but I looked it up after this thread and apparently one of six thousand rules they didn't teach us in school is that you don't pronounce a usually silent consonant at the end of proper nouns even if followed by a vowel

http://ielanguages.com/blog/french-and-its-secret-liaisons/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liaison_%28French%29#Impossible_liaison

(p. cool name for it, if nothing else. NB these two links say something different about proper nouns vs all nouns and I have no idea which is right)

so I have learnt something from this thread!

A thing that bothers me: abbreviations in foreign languages in English conversation. Should one pronounce as if English or attempt to remember the letter names in the original language?

e.g. I had a conversation about DAF once and I thought "should I try to pronounce it in a German manner?" and then I realised nobody would know what the fuck I was talking about, and to be honest it's rare enough to find someone who'll know what you're talking about if you start talking about DAF at all so don't ruin the moment

technically everyone in Italy pronounces A.C. Milan incorrectly

Don't get me started on British football commentators pronouncing the English word, Milan, with an Italian accent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFAam6feH_8

Huh! That seems like a rule that should be consistent but then some anglophones put 'an' before a voiced 'h'. Talking is crazy.

Point stands that it is Jim not zhim, this is explicitly mentioned in the film

Xps

Should one pronounce as if English or attempt to remember the letter names in the original language?

Back in the CCCP...

there is no dana, only jules