Increasingly Familiar Apple Lust Objects for 2016 and onwards

New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

Old thread 14k posts so why not

WWDC is Monday, nobody seems to be expecting anything much. Maybe the Keynote will focus on Swift 3. OS X seems likely to get rebranded as macOS. Music on iPhone and iTunes will both change completely once again, infuriating everyone. New watch bands? Jokes about The Car? Does anyone even want a new Apple product at this point? Will Jimmy Iovine be allowed onstage?

when do they announce the new iPhone? i care about that

presumably September like all recent years

Nervous that the next MacBook Pro is going to max out at 1TB with non-replaceable storage. They wouldn't do that to us, right? Because when this thing ships in 2017 I'm going to need more than that.

"1 TB should be enough for anyone." -Apple, probably

As usual, my phone is kind of fucked up just in time for the announcement and I'm just trying to make it last. Screen cracked a couple weeks ago, and it's really hard to make it charge.

My partner picked up a new 2018 model 13" MacBook Pro and I'm jealous at a level I haven't dealt with since the Wall Street iteration of the PowerBook G3 finally got it right. My 15" is a goddamn barge and I'm finding that no model of iPad is an adequate travel substitute.

i got a 3400c just before that. jealous years.

I always thought the Kanga / 3500 / G3 PowerBook was the ultimate in heartbreak. I had a 5300 though, so I know the worst a PowerBook can be.

2018 seems like a good vintage of MacBooks to skip. I'm ready to order a 2019 model now, though.

*silently pours one out for my old 1400cs*

Apple announcement day. *self-flagellates*

https://www.famousmonsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Logans-run-red_result.jpg

RENEW! RENEW!

Just tell me what the new Mac mini is...

excited for the redesigned spatial finder

I like my new MacBook Pro but am alternately cursing Apple for cutting HD space / not taking the +$400 hit and getting 1TB like my old laptop (a 2012 MacBook Pro).

Keyboard is fine but the trackpad sucks.

Touchscreen = I can summon emojis.

I took my '17 MBP in to get the left speaker fixed (apparently this is a thing) and got one of the new keyboards. I missed the press release on this: https://www.wired.com/story/apple-will-fix-broken-macbook-keyboards/

yeah glad I got one after that. the SSD is not replaceable?

Nope on the replaceable SSD.

I guess I'm probably going to pull the trigger on a fancy new Xs phone but can't make much of a compelling case when my 7 just keeps on going.

psyched for some extremely incremental improvements

Creepy new iPhone X scans your face to unlock, has built-in AI, thinks humans are obsolete:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYIo2Lj9xek

https://theporouscity.com/media/timtweet.png

It was already gone by the time I opened it.

ECG thing for the watch is pretty great

a little off topic but does anyone else use f.lux? it doesn't work on my new MacBook Pro and my eyes hurt

your new laptop should have that functionality built in!

yeah it's not nearly as good though, fluctuates too much, way too much blue at night. maybe i can monkey with the settings and/or just get used to it. apparently f.lux is working on a fix.

liquid retina huh.... maybe just call it plasma

Haptic Touch = long press

They're never going to do a watch with an always-visible time, are they? Fuck.

All I know is if they ever make an iOS release incompatible with the SE, and don’t update the SE, I’m outie.

this might be worth sending a CEO email about, what’s Tim’s handle again

Ugh you can’t buy an SE direct from Apple anymore, fuckin whatever dude.

no new macbook air?!?

:_(

sounds like they discontinued the SE

Macs TK

I honestly feel nothing for any products Apple makes these days, I’m not mad or anything it’s all just at a stable equilibrium and design differentiators are basically impossible, since all anyone wants is things built on the same lines as the products Apple introduced 2003-2007. They are still dragging their heels on a MacBook based on an Apple-designed ARM SoC and that irritates me a bit.

Shit, maybe I better grab one before it's too late. My 5s will be 5 years old in December. xp

Price drop on “obsolete “ phones always welcome after an announcement

Ok, so there's no longer going to be any retail model available with a headphone jack? I guess this really will be my last iphone.

either that or I invest in a good lightning DAC and just deal with the annoying bulk, I guesss

lol Apple now offering 7 different models at the same time

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1039962912805330944/sYRoV1Zg?format=jpg&name=600x314

hell yeah steve jobs would be proud

What customer is targeted by having a larger iphone 8 at $699 vs a same-size iPhone XR at $50 more?

They’re basically admitting nobody gives a shit about the phone hardware anymore. It’s just a collection of price points

I keep thinking "this is finally the release where people sour on Apple" and then their stock price doubles again.

xxp people who can't deal w/o a home button or hate the notch

Imagine what Steve Jobs would say about the "I Phone Ten XS Max."

http://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2012/11/Screen-Shot-2018-04-11-at-10.39.01-AM.png

love how they used the planet image on the newer and pricier options so it's juuuuuust out of the way of the notch, attempting to fool us into believing maybe it's not there.

getting the max tho obv. my 6+ did it's job for four years.

Literally bought an 8 yesterday fuck

512 gb Max is $1449
LOLOLOL

increments increments increments

Not sure where else to post this, but a WaPo exclusive today disclosing a “secret order” from the UK govt demanding apple give it a back door into encrypted iCloud data for users worldwide
I’m attempting a gift link:
https://wapo.st/4k2AF5Z

feel like this one ends badly for the uk

Yeah I saw this. The UK government has been trying to do this via various Home Secretaries since about 2015 or so and the legislation in question was passed in 2016. I recently upgraded my phone and enabled end to end encryption for my backup - I’ve never used iCloud for much in a decade or so of having iPhones - and you have to actually enable this by rather than it being turned on by default.

This has been going back and forth for ages, the iCloud backups are the latest frontier but previously they were targeting iMessage and FaceTime:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/20/uk-surveillance-law-changes-could-force-apple-to-withdraw-security-features

One of the many “benefits” of Brexit is the lack of a supranational body that prevents national governments in the area from introducing this kind of fascist shit without attracting legal challenges, but alas! This is not me claiming the EU is flawless in this regard - there are always dipshits trying to introduce this kind of thing, but afaik nothing has emerged like this - but increasingly depressing how normal people just buy “we need it to catch terrorists/nonces” unquestioningly.

Would the only way to refuse compliance be for Apple to cease offering iphones in the UK?

the wapo article suggests that the ability to enable ADP (https://support.apple.com/en-us/108756) could be removed for UK residents, but apparently that would not satisfy the UK government.

so the answer to the question is ... maybe, but as gyac says various UK governments have being losing similar games of chicken with apple over successive e2e features for years, so I'd be surprised if it came to that. the wild card this time is that the US government is insane.

i was really hoping the 16e would be 50 or 100 bucks less. i do need to buy something to replace my se2 and its decrepit battery

I’m in the same boat, circles. I’m guessing refurb / secondhand 14 or 15. Do not care about the RAM needed to run Apple intelligence.

Also: ADP is now disabled on iCloud in the UK for new users. (I can’t honestly remember if I had it turned on but I certainly can’t now).

a refurb sounds good but i will never go back to lightning

Have just been reading about that ADP saga. The UK government or security service sounds out of control, including: they wanted backdoor access to encrypted files loaded by users worldwide, and Apple has been served with a "request" by the Home Office - a request that it is an offence for Apple to refer to publicly.

Bought the 16e, coming Friday

Anyone want to buy my 15 pro?

are you just swapping for the size difference? seems like a pretty hefty downgrade

Nah, I have the regular sized 15p

why are you switching from a regular sized 15p to a 16e?

I meant that it’s lighter and maybe has a bit more battery life. Other than that, it’s a downgrade from the 15 pro in nearly every other way

Yep

Lighter?
Better battery life?
Features to me

i remember when people would choose their iphone based on whether it had an intel modem or qualcomm modem. i’m gonna take a wait and see approach to this apple c1 modem

lmao it’s 0.5 oz lighter. Good luck telling which is which.

m4 macbook air just announced.

Wife needs a new computer. Has a 2019 macbook pro that's acting up. I opened it up in an attempt to clean out the fans. Now it's acting up even more. Normally I'd expect she'd get a little more use out of it, but we're worried and figured it's time.

So the age old question....Air or Pro.

She just uses google docs, web surfing, word and occasional powerpoint. I know in my heart of hearts that that is who the Air is made for.

But I also know pro is gonna last longer and after a while give less of a hassle if she ever pushes anything, or when Chrome inevitably acts up.

Taking the base model 13 and 14 in of both, bumping RAM up to 24 and storage to 512, the chip is the same, the air is 1400 and the pro is 1800.

With the 400 dollars the benefits of the pro are a better display, more ports including HDMI (could be useful for presentations in a meeting or something, but she does have a simple hub) and fans which will make it less likely to throttle. On the OTHER hand, fans that can eventually clog up and make a lot of noise and slow things down.

Not sure of the size/weight difference. IIRC the difference is negligable and it's not like the older super slim airs.

What would you do?

Pros are heavier and have fan ports and better sound. No hub required for hdmi and peripherals.

I think if throttling is even a question, then you get the Pro. Otherwise, I'd consider bumping the screen size up on the Air. The price comes in lower than the Pro and the day-to-day difference coming from a 13" is huge.

...and look at a refurbished 15" M3 Air, which at those specs is less than 1300.

Air Air Air. It is no longer some kind of halfway machine

My wife has an M1 Pro with a big screen and it is really surprisingly heavy!

would come down to size and weight for me, the 15" air is actually slightly lighter than the 14" pro, 15" screen is perfect for me, that'd be my choice

thanks all, leaning towards 13" air in that case. May look into refurb but prob go new. She used to have (and love) one of those tiny 11" airs, so the smaller the better.

Air Air Air. It is no longer some kind of halfway machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaqLrw8sp78

thats right

air is the answer. wait for the m4 air due this month.

ymmv, but i give presentations all the time and i don't think i've given one by connecting a hdmi cable to a laptop since covid started.

as mentioned, that m4 air is here now.

and it's blue!

I want the new Mac Studio with 96GB RAM by default (only $4k)

xp apologies I am out of the loop, get the blue m4 air then!

i was really hoping the 16e would be 50 or 100 bucks less. i do need to buy something to replace my se2 and its decrepit battery

I ended up getting a regular 15. idk, i take enough nature pictures that extra camera versatility is nice, and some of the dynamic island stuff is genuinely useful. my case hasn’t arrived yet, so I am still handling it very gingerly

probably the M5 Air is going to be faster at everything than my M1 Pro (currently M1 still has a GPU edge)

at that point it's gonna be tempting

New M4 air with 32GB Ram just arrived this week it’s glorious. My first Apple silicon Mac and I’m coming from the dreaded butterfly keyboard pro so it’s great to be actually able to type properly on it.

I had a brief moment of madness and tried to use Nix as the package manger and then decided it was too daft and went back to brew - for some reason I wasn’t going to waste time finding out they have some philosophical aversion to you using pip and won’t install it with python.

Once I work out what in the ESP32 toolchain is stopping me from compiling anyone I’m all set for the next 8-10 years.

I’m surprised by how much Rosetta stuff is still knocking around.

Sweet!
I am running a 16” M1 Pro
Feels weird but great to be able to crank music a bit and actually have it sound dece

FYI if you live near a Micro Center they’ve got the base model Mac Mini M4 on sale for $450, in-store only. My 2019 iMac has been showing signs of imminent death so I was exploring my options this weekend and jumped on that deal.

moving unknown sender texts out of the main text feed is much appreciated.

Apple have decided to formally drop the awe from their increasingly familiar events

Apple is expected to unveil iPhone 17 and more at the 'Awe Dropping' event on Tuesday: Here's everything we know

It dawned on me a day later that it's a pun on jaw-dropping. Awe-dropping. Jaw-dropping. Jaw.

I'm in a quandry. I'm a PC person. I built my PC from parts back in 2011 and upgraded it periodically - it's still very capable but the motherboard is now fourteen years old, so it can't run Windows 11. It doesn't have the built-in security chips that Windows 11 requires. And I mostly use my Mac Mini for everyday tasks such as typing messages to Ilxor and reading the replies. You people are good. But it's nice to have access to a library of Steam games and also Microsoft Flight Simulator.

In fact I'm using my Mac Mini right now! It's a 2012 model, the last with Firewire. I've squeezed every last drop of juice from it and in a year or so it will also be obsolete, because it has an Intel CPU. The quandry is this. For just £150 I could replace my PC with one of those generic mini-PCs that are on Amazon. They're slightly less powerful than my 2011-era supercomputer, and there's no way they'll run Microsoft Flight Simulator, and they're basically disposable in the long run, but they use one-tenth the power. And £150 for an actual functioning PC is appealing.

Or alternatively I could buy a new M4 Mac Mini, which is around £600, but Amazon has a 0% interest pay-by-instalment deal. An M4 Mini is vastly superior to my existing Mac Mini albeit that it's completely useless for all but half a dozen or so of my Steam games library. But I can imagine still using it a decade from now, perhaps intermittently connected to a communal solar power generator in one of the few uncontaminated parts of the English countryside. There will be no internet then, no outside world, but I will still have a huge archive of point-and-click adventure walkthroughs to read.

But there's another quandry. Another layer of the onion. For just a little bit more money I could buy a MacBook Air, for around £1,000. It's a legitimately good laptop. Competitively priced. Unusually for an Apple product it's better-built, faster, and cheaper than an equivalent PC laptop. But I have absolutely no need for a laptop. None whatsoever. I would never take it with me anywhere. And yet I have a mental fantasy in which I have coffee in the cafe on the top floor of Foyle's in London while chatting with people about Mach-Hommmy and Jpeg Mafia, with a MacBook Air casually sitting on the table. And in theory I could use it as a desktop computer. The traditional argument in favour of desktop machines is expandability, but that doesn't apply any more because the Mac Mini is just as un-expandable as the Air. The only thing it has over the laptop is more ports.

But I have no need for a laptop. But what if I suddenly did. And it's so beautiful. The little keys. The metal case. The smooth, hairless case. The sweet little ports. The sensitive Apple logo. The luscious, bee-stung lips. The way it says "Jeremy" with a French accent. The panniers. The soft burble of its engine as it idles. The Louise Brooks-style bobbed hair. How did Apple know my sexual fetishes. How did Tim Cook know. We have very little in common. But perhaps some things are universal. Louise Brooks is universally attractive. All human beings regardless of their tribe adore her.

So, that is the dilemma one-two. The dilemma one-two. Every night I sit in front of my Mac Mini, and I think "should I buy a mini-PC for a little bit of money, or a new Mac Mini for slightly more money, or a MacBook Air for slightly more money still, or should I just not do that and save the money in case something bad happens". In a way I envy alcoholics because their hobby is relatively cheap. And it's all just a first world problem, and yet this is the first world, right here. I am in it.

Apple screwed up my last trade in and applied the trade in as a gift card to my account rather than going to my debit card, the chat agent couldn't help so I'm debating getting a 17 Pro for the stronger antenna (I get a terrible signal in a lot of places) or saving it for the future.

the magic eye effect you can apply to photos now is pretty fun ngl

Ashley, you could buy a Macbook Air that isn't as current for less than $1000. I use my M1 air every day mostly for undemanding stuff, but it's more than capable of running Adobe suite and Logic and other fairly demanding stuff. It could be and was my only computer for a couple years- I now also have a Mac Studio but it's the Air that I use every day. Battery life is still 87% after 3 years.

The other problem is ports. The MacBook Air has two (2) ports in total, but one of them is power. So it has one port. I'd have to buy a base station of some kind if I want to run it as a desktop replacement. I would add an larger keyboard, an mouse, an external monitor, an audio interface, an MIDI keyboard, so that's at least five ports, not including power. But from what I've read almost every base station, docking station, USB hub or whatever has the same cheap componentry on the inside with a slightly different case.

The other desktop options are the Mac Pro (ludicrously expensive and pointless) the Mac Studio (good but pricey) and the iMac ("fasted to a dying animal"). Alternatively I could buy a second-hand Mac Mini and also a second-hand MacBook Air. But if I had a brand-new Mac Mini I could do a blog post about the three different case designs of the Mac Mini thus adding one more blog post to my blog. I already have a 2008 Mini with the G4-era metal/white plastic case, and a 2012 Mini that is my daily machine that I am using right now.

To complicate matters Windows 10 ends mainstream support next month, so I'll have to replace my PC, which will cost money. I'm still annoyed about that. My PC will easily run Windows 11, but the motherboard is too old. And on the other hand by not buying anything I am saving money, which is potentially useful. Tomorrow I'm going to Geneva for a holiday. I'm going to visit CERN. I'm going to visit the birthplace of the World Wide Web, and hopefully I'll see CERN's sanctuary for rescued computer mice.

What if nuclear war breaks out while I'm there? I will survive, because Switzerland is neutral, but I will need money to continue to survive, and the more money I have in my bank account the longer I will be able to survive. Because in the wake of nuclear war British Pounds Sterling will be very rare, and thus very valuable.

The M4 mini is widely regarded as Apple’s best value proposition, absurdly powerful for the price in its entry configuration. If you someday need a laptop for that cafe there are any number of used machines which would look good on the table and would handle writing and browsing with ease. Anything heavier you’d be doing on the M4 mini with its plethora of connected devices.

I would add an larger keyboard, an mouse, an external monitor,

I have a keyboard and mouse but they're both Bluetooth. And an external monitor that passes power to the MacBook at the same time. So a lot of the time I have one port free. When I need more I have a dongle rather than any big docking station, which I've never quite grasped the advantage of.

Sorry, meant to quote not hide.

it sounds like you’re the sort of person who doesn’t change their computer very often so get the m4 mini. it will last a long time. for those foyle’s afternoons a notebook and a nice pen will be cheaper and i would expect lead to more exciting encounters