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This weekend I am having a barbeque. I have never actually done this before so pray do give me your tips and amusing barbeque anecdotes.

Tom, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tom, you have misspelt it. It is actually BBQ, or, in certain outré circles, Bar-B-Q.

Nick, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Take a brolly as it looks like rain this weekend.

Don't use petrol to light your barbeque.

Billy Dods, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tip: do not allow people to bring balloons as this may result in a fist fight.

Every barbecue I have ever been at has brought out the surging testosterone in men and therefore I find that sitting at the opposite end of the garden with a cold beer / glass of wine in one hand and a fag in the other waiting for them to bring on the burnt offerings is the best approach.

Emma, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wear oven gloves. Put the thing nowhere near any kind of vegetation. My dad did this once (admittedly with a bonfire) and we had 15 foot high flames which luckily only singed a rather large hedge.

Bill, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the secret is in the marinade you know, a good marinade can make a babar-b-q

cabbage, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You grill elephants?

Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Okay, first key thing is to cook over hot emberfied coals, ie, they must have turned orangey, not still be shooting flames. Don't use 'savers'-type food esp. sausages, as these are shit.

Marinades: the spicier the better. Have a bottle of cheap white wine, some lemons and limes, some olive oil, beef/chicken stock cubes, some Tabasco, LOADS of chopped garlic on hand. Marinate chicken and fleshy meat overnight using this marinade: 2 cubes stock dissolved in small cup hot water, at least 4 cloves of garlic, lashings of olive oil, squeeze of citrus, loads of pepper, dash Tabasco, some wine (white for chicken, red for beef). Soy sauce in mix will tenderise tough beef. Also: chicken is fab if you have tikka paste or jerk sauce (they come with instructions on packet/bottle).

Poussins are your friends: stuff them with garlic and lemon wedges, wrap in two layers of tinfoil and place directly on the coals. Should cook in 20 minutes. Ditto for fish, just drizzle with lemon, butter and pepper before foiling but 5-10 minutes good.

Hamburgers. Follow this one carefully, for burgers I Am The Law. Get mince, about 1kg. Finely chop two small onions, white. Add to mince. Crack an egg into this, add lots of salt and pepper, then mix with hands until onions evenly distributed. Make wide, flat patties (they cook faster). Cheeseburgers are best made with Kraft or similar 'single slice' cheese, I don't kmow why the plastifood option is best, it goes against my normal ethos, but it is. Toast the buns lightly on the white side so the bun doesn't break up while folks are eating. Give lots of salad garnish, mayonnaise, thin sliced tomatoes, proper non-Colemans mustard, Heinz only for dressing the cheeseburger.

Good luck!

suzy, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

only stuffed toy ones, them and salmon.

cabbage, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And stuffed toy seals. Suzy appears to have misunderstood the concept of barbecues which is in fact to get almightily pissed and munch on some burnt sausages and salmonella ridden chicken drumsticks. The alcohol is necessary to kill the food poisoning bugs.

Emma, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Please, for me, make sure you have decent vegetarian options too. Like most BBQs I've gone to have loads and loads and loads of meat...and then a potato salad because "there might be some vegetarians". Why not just tell us to go eat the grass on the lawn while you're at it then?! Like have a decent salad, lots of veggies and a good dressing, and maybe some garlic bread or something. Or BBQ veggie burgers, Boca Burgers are wicked good.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tch, Emma, I have not missed the point at all. The sausages have to be black as night, obviously, and Tom doesn't need instructions for that!

The rest of it is part of my one-woman Barbecue Initiative to teach Brits how to do really good hamburgers, etc. What I propose takes an hour of prep the night before, so no biggie. You've already had the Blender Drinks masterclass, after all.

suzy, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ally, what are these boca burgers of which you speak?

as a fish and chipocrite I usually manage to find something nice to eat other than the ubiquitous quorn sausage and burger combination. But a nice veggie kebab can be nice too.

cabbage, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Stuffed seal and shoe throwing competitions are pretty essential for an authentic barbeque atmosphere. Trespassing and climbing into neighbouring gardens is optional.

Martin, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Veggies: Feta cheese grills nicely. Use it as part of a kebab. Corn on the cob, in its jackets, is good too. Veggieburgers: do Sosmix with chopped onion and other spicies into the mix. These too can be cheeseburgered, mmmm. And make a salad with loads of ingredients.

suzy, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ally, what are these boca burgers of which you speak?

They're like Veggie Burgers, except they actually taste good. Really ace stuff.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

barbecue (ranch style: — B Q) chicken can get goopy on the outside if thoroughly blackening like ya oughta. Solution: bbq sauce without tomatoes (it's the sugar in em that goops) - there are a lotta good rcps out there. lessee... must have italian sausages.

on ally's point, it's easy to make up some big ol skewers of interesting veggies so's your herbivores get a taste of char.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Who cares, what BEER shall we have?

Sarah, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Argh, beer, the bane of my life. I always dive straight for the wine coolers. You won't get drunk, but at least it tastes like you are drinking something FANTASTIC and EXOTIC.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ally are you on crack?? BBQs need COLD BEER. Preferably little stubby bottles of lager. And this is coming from a bitter drinker! Spirits and warm mixers may be brought out later - it is a RULE they must be warm. Ice can be added but the mixer is defintely not allowed to be chilled first. Wine coolers? IS that just cold wine? Or is it something STRANGER?

Sarah, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

if boca not meat OR veggie, it be what? GenTec irradiated fungus perhaps, like QUORN. Mmmmmmm, franken-eaty

mark s, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wine coolers are way weirder than cold wine, they are fruity carbonated alcoholic drinks sold in bottles, like beer. Proven by science to actually have higher alcohol percentage than most beer (which still isn't enough to survive a BBQ but anyhow).

Boca burgers are made with soy, I think.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

NB I discovered on SOSSAGE RUN yesterday that the co-op in Headington has gone mad - no wait is actually hugely sane and clever but illegal - and has insane exam result deals on booze, i.e. 60p for a bottle of blackcurrant alcopop and FORTY-FOUR PENCE for a bottle of Diamond White.

Thank goodness my independent wealth means I don't have to stoop so low but the situaton among the yoot' in Headington is clearly already tense given that 'Kirsten' has been called a "FUCKING LYIN WHOR" on the fence outside my bus stop, perhaps linked with the 'TINY COCK' attributed to 'James' a mere metre along. More news as it's made. (Also drawing of a fish next to "I KISS LIKE A FISH UNDA DA SEA")

Tom, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wine coolers are way weirder than cold wine, they are fruity carbonated alcoholic drinks sold in bottles, like beer.

Far out man, what will they think of next.

Tom, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Soon I'll be telling you all that they also sell Kahlua-mixed drinks and vodka-mixed drinks in bottles at the supermarket, also like beer. Americans = crazy inventive lot.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tom, that's an amazing deal. What I said before about BEER of course can always be forgotten if there are amazing special offers such as the sort mentioned above. Cheap alcopops = yaaaarrrss.

Sarah, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Since when did this become the alcopop irony thread?

Whoever made those chilli burgers at Stevie and Tim's barbeque deserves a knighthood by the way. Though to call it Tim's barbeque would be perhaps to give him too much credit since he wasn't all about going outside that day.

Pete, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

FORTY-FOUR PENCE for a bottle of Diamond White

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!! ?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?????????????!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?

Fucking hell, I need to get some of that action. I haven't had any of that since I was at an "Irish pub" last year when this girl's fiance- now-husband was guest bartendering and was loading all the friends of the fiancee-now-wife with DW.

True fact: used to date a guy called DWD because of his adherence to Diamond White as a young 'un.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What was the last D for Ally? Tom, if you make us drink Diamond White at your barbecue I will not be held responsible for my actions.

Emma, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, his first name was Dave, I should've explained that. DWD = Diamond White Dave. I remember when I first met him I had no idea what the hell that meant, and it just reminded me of "Diamond" David Lee Roth, which was immensely hilarious in my mind. Never actually told him that though.

I think Tom should NOT serve beer and serve only ridiculous, girly mixed drinks like Midori Sours, Chocolate Martinis, and anything pink.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I won't be 'making' anyone drink Diamond White Emma. There is always the rainwater barrel.

Tom, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tom, for the sake of your sanity, share out barbecueing duties. If one is forced to stand by the barbecue in a corner of the garden being ignored by one's mates, one can get very grumpy.

Madchen, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pete: correction - Stevie'n'Tim'Sez's BBQ. She lives there too, and did a hell of a lot of prep. But you may not have been introduced.

Tom: if there are vegetarians present, demarcate part of the grill (or, ideally, have a separate B&Q 6-quid job standing by) for meatless products and stick a sign up or something. It's amazing how verbal agreements over where to stick the animal flesh and where to stick the veggie skewers are somehow forgotten after a stubby bottle of French lager or two, and - hey! - there's salmon steaks all over the bloody place. Late-coming vegans are then forced to eat toast.

Is UNDA DA SEA some kind of Position Normal reference?

Michael Jones, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Vegans can't eat toast. It has mould spores on.

Ooops. Apologies to Sez, was briefly introduced - but would you blamew them from hiding good lady friend away from an animal like me?

(Animals like me: apes, monkeys, babboons, gibbons and orang-utans).

Pete, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

To be fair vegans must at least be used to eating a lot of toast.

Martin, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thanks for reminding me to buy the salmon.

Mike: I so wish it was a Position Normal reference. I think of them every time I see it (which is often).

I dont know if any vegetarians are coming but any that do will be richly fed.

Tom, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Vegans can't eat toast. Bread is made of animal products - you need eggs and in many cases milk! I mean, you'd have to be very strict to follow this rule but in technicality you just can't.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The burgers were very fine and were manufactured by the (fair?) hands of a fellow called Innes. They differed significantly from Suzy BurgerLaw's burgers because they contained a decent old wodge of chili. If I'd known they were in contravention of the burger law I would have prevented their distribution on my premises.

I am not all about eating or drinking outside like some beast of the field. It's vile.

Tim, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

BBQ veggies can work wonders . When we BBQ we have tomatoes and eggplants and things so the veggies can eat.

anthony, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wow, imagine not being able to eat toast. I'd never finish that pot of marmalade.

Martin, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Chillis in burgers = OK, sez the Law. Best start with the basics before moving into Getting Fancy territory, this being Tom's first an' all.

suzy, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Make people bring lots of appetizers/desserts/salads because it's best to assume the meat won't be quite edible. Sometimes you're lucky. Sometimes you're not.

Lyra, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, my very ordinary supermarket-bought bread claims that it is suitable for vegans. As I'm not a vegan, mind, I've never bothered to look into these things - but falafel in pitta is usually tagged as vegan-friendly, so it must be possible to make certain bread-type things w/o eggs or dairy.

Mark Morris, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Simple white bread = flour + yeast + fat (can be vegetable oil) + a little water.

Madchen, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Eggs absolutely do not form part of a standard bread recipe. I think Ally is confusing bread with cake. You don't need milk either. The main sticking point is yeast, which stricter vegans won't eat.

Nick, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

get the men to stand around the barbie and fart, the chicks to stand around the salad table and swill their cheap champers - all my family reunions seem to have followed this route...it's an ozzie tradition you know. oh, burn everything as much as possible - there should be no blood, no red meat...it's black steaks, black sausgages, and black onions.

Geoff, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, my very ordinary supermarket-bought bread claims that it is suitable for vegans.

So is meat. ;-)

nathalie, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Suzy's admirable breakdown of a Grand BBQ aside (and speaking of which, it was a terrible pity we couldn't meet up over there! next time!), it seems many miss the True Point of These Events -- namely, to let yourself be knocked out by the perfect combination of late evening gloaming, savoury sizzling smells from a few feet away, and the right sort of drink. It's not about the food per se as it is about the AESTHETICS, to which Southern California is admirably suited. So yay me. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Standard bread recipe = crap, tastes awful. You need milk, eggs, butter, or some combination of those to make it taste good; that's why most store brands include one or two or all of those. And yes, yeast is a technicality as well that catches people.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The main sticking point is yeast, which stricter vegans won't eat.

WHAT? Why not? Do they have some sort of weird Hanle yesque belief that it's a kind of animal or something? One of my friends is a very strict vegan (ie nothing of animal origin goes anywhere near her body = she will kill you if you introduce cheese into her house) and she drinks vegan beer and scoff toasts like nobody's business.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

American bread = v.weird

Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well it all depends on definition, some of them think yeast is a living creature.

Quite frankly, I think veganism is crap - I mean, what, plants aren't living? Fuck that, I want to kill all living things.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I thought yeast was a fungus or something. Belonged to the fungi kingdom, didn't it? That means no mushrooms either.

Lyra, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's nothing to do with stuff being alive or not, it's the creature bit that's important. Nervous systems and that. But yeast is bloody fungus, like mushrooms, and anyone who claims a mushroom is a type of animal is clearly barking mad.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, I wholeheartedly agree but I know someone who claimed an anchovy wasn't actually a living type of fish because it "had no face".

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh my god; I've never heard of a vegan that wouldn't eat YEAST. I'd love to hear an explanation for that one. The only logical way to follow that course would be to eat nothing but bacteria.

Kris, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bacteria is a living organism!!!!

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I know a vegan who will not eat anything that does not replace itself. So no root vegetables whatsoever !

anthony, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sadly I cannot be there. I want very badly to see the first-time vegan bread Tom will be baking on his second no-blood BBQ, from eggs and yeast and anchovies. To see it before I die. Some of you foax may eat it before you die.

mark s, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ally your anchovy story made me snort water all over myself.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's true, that's what she'd have on her pizzas and we'd stare at her, "THAT'S A LIVING ANIMAL!" "No, it has no face!" They cut it off, you moron.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Brilliant. I can eat sausages and burgers coz' they don't have faces either.

Billy Dods, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tying two threads together:

The Till They Lack Faces Cookbook: For Unsure Vegetarians by C. S. Lewis.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

mwahahaha!

I don't understand people who call themselves vegetarians and have no problem with eating fish.

Lyra, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Herbivorous != Piscivorous

I guess the pisci veggies don't think the fish have proper feelings. Like do you cuddle fish when they're depressed like you can a chicken? Do fish giggle at toilet humour like cows do? Do fish get frustrated when they get can't do the Financial Times crossword like pigs? Do fish swim in the sea like sheep?

Umm... tequila and a lack of sleep is an interesting combination.

Martin, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bacteria is a living organism!!!!

Of course, but they're the only living organisms less complex than yeast. I hadn't even thought of trying to construct a diet of non-living things. I can't see how it would even be possible...for appetizer we will have a multivitamin, the main course will be elemental carbon chunks garnished with lab-synthesized table sugar, some nitrogenated water (i.e. urine) to wash it all down...but where would the protein come from?

Kris, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Headless Fish?

Martin, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You'd be lucky to get away with that multivitamin: most of them aren't even vegetarian-friendly, let alone pure enough for your ultra-vegan

Mark Morris, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think the most extreme you can get is a windfall fruitarian; where you only eat fruit that has fallen from the tree- to pick it from the tree would be to harm it. I heard about them years ao and now can't remember if it was a wind up or not.

The problem with that I guess it that the tree drops fruit to be eaten so its seeds are spread by passing through the systems of birds etc. So to eat the fruit and then leaves its seeds in our sewer system would be downright cruel (it would end up in the sea near Clacton), depriving the tree of the right to spread it's genes, or whatever trees have.

The only logical solution to this would be to eat the fruit, and then crap somewhere a few miles from the tree. You'd have to admire the commitment of someone with this diet 24/7, but I think I'll just stick to the veggieburgers.

Simon McDougall, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Would it be OK for vegetarians to eat animal non-vital organs, as long as they were removed in a hygenic and pain-free manner (obviously there might be some discomfort for the animal, but we'll pass over this for now). Devilled kidneys would then be OK, as long as we were assured that no more than one morsel was taken from any one sheep.

Can't you get windfall carnivores? Cow-tipping would increase tenfold...

Paul, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Liver regenerates which prompted dastardly (and strong stomached) vegetarian friend to posit possibly lucrative trade in consensual human pate to vegetarians (consent given, so eating it AOK). He went off the idea somewhat after seeing Hugh Fearnley Whisttingstall make placenta pate.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

but where would the protein come from?

Power Bars. Proven by science to be Not Meat.

Those fruitarians, btw, are true fact things, I've met one. Fucking hippies, yo, they're wacked in the head, that's all I gotta say.

I think Tom's BBQ should consist solely of barbequed fruit fallen off a tree.

Ally, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

skipping back to the BBQ, I've seen people use those hickory chips (I think that's what they're called. I think you soak them in water and then chuck on the fire to make the smoke more woody and BBQ-y, but won't pretend to have any idea for certain. One for the esteemed BBQ experts further up the thread I feel.

As for the meat argument, is there any difference between windfall fruit and a sheep that has died from old age, having lived a full and happy sheep life in sheeptopia?

Simon McDougall, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes, in that old sheep taste like crap.

Ally, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

but does manky fruit taste any better?

and would anyone admit to having compared aged sheep meat to worm ridden apples?

Simon McDougall, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

meat curry > fruit curry

curry takes the bad taste away from bad food

therefore:

windswept dead mutton curry > windfall manky apple curry

I can't see the problem...

Paul, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is the curry powder windfallen?

Madchen, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think the only answer is to stop eating entirely.

Ally, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Of course - I am president of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Fenugreek.

Paul, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(worm-ridden apple = non-vegan)

mark s, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I guarantee you the protein in Powerbars is yeast extract, or something similar.

Kris, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeast has no face, therefore it is vegan.

Ally, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

http://library.thinkquest.org/C004535/media/s_cerevisiae.gif

Kris, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That looks like that thing in Star Wars that shot lazer beams at Luke when he was practicing with the lightsaber on the spaceship and he had the blinder thing on.

Ally, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No it's not, it's a hot air balloon with acne.

DG, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

An orange with boils?

Ally, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Having studied this thread I think I can now affirm that the mysterious Suzy is the best at barbecueing things. Is there anything she's NOT good at?

the pinefox, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am bad at: cleaning windows, ridding a summer kitchen of fucking Fruit Flies, learning HTML/web skillz and keeping the interest of men who wind up being freaked out by my opinions and life skills. I'm not exactly compliant or deferential.

suzy, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fish, like reptiles, lack limbic lobes which are the source of mammalian emotions. Plus fish are caught from the sea and not raised in wretched tiny cages and fed hormones. However I am not a vegetarian because I love animals but because I hate plants.

tha chzza, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So you're saying you kick ass and take names, Suzy. Hm! I could clone myself or something.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The BBQ was a success, I think. Food-standards-wise perhaps not the greatest BBQ in the world but we were not helped by the weather conditions (technical term: 'pissing down' at least for part of it). Those who left early missed Salad Jenga and a food fight using DG's rapidly-dissolving burgers, and of course I Wuv The 1990s (WHAT WERE WE THINKING?). Thanks to everyone on the tips above - Suzy I am afraid corners may have been cut on your marinading recipes but I will keep this thread safe for next time.

Tom, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

six months pass...
What's so great about barbeques? 'Nature is corrupt.'

maryann, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hey Maryann would you like to come to our BBQ?

duane, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nah come to our chestnut roasting party instead, maryann.
can anyone give chestnut roasting tips/instructions?

elizabeth anne marjorie, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

BBQ them on a BBQ!

duane, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

you hguys need some kanga meet to chuck on the barbie

Queen G, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ally's bullshitting on this thread is classic.

ethan, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
Thread revival. Ally was very funny on this thread. I haven't laughed much in the past couple of days but that vegan/anchovy stuff made me guffaw.

I'm going to try Suzy's burger recipe tomorrow. They look really good; similar to how I usually make them but simpler, and lately I've been thinking I should cut out a few ingredients. Now I'm really hungry.

estela, Friday, 21 March 2003 02:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Am I the only moron here who has burned off his eyebrows lighting a gas barbecue? I stuck a long match through the hole in the side to light it; only problem was was that the lid was closed. Didn't hurt the porterhouse, though.

Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 21 March 2003 02:34 (twenty-three years ago)

here's the recipe for one of the best burgers ever:

http://www.theeagle.com/food/091102officeburger.htm

also, you don't necessarily want to make burgers too thin (unless the meat quality is low, then by all means flatten 'em like pancakes).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 21 March 2003 02:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Spencer, those burgers sound amazing.

estela, Friday, 21 March 2003 02:58 (twenty-three years ago)

If you're ever in L.A.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 21 March 2003 03:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Use charcoal. Over here barbecue, barbeque, Bar-B-Que, Bar-B-Q, BBQ (all are acceptable ways to spell, none outré at all), is an artform. People from the northern USA are funny in that they don't know from barbecue; they think it means grilling out some meat. With some kind of sweet tomato/vinegar sauce perhaps, out of a jar.

To do it right you need to use charcoal--you probably don't have a big enough grill to do it right. But the idea is to slow cook the pork (Texans eat beef, but pork is better, and I've had goat that was pretty good), while basting with a sauce you can make yourself--try a little tomato, vinegar, mustard, spices to taste. Cook for at least half a day over low coals. Until the meat is tender enough to come apart. Then either chop it or pull it.

Coleslaw is good too--not mayonnaise, but vinegar coleslaw, with some hot sauce in it.

Jess Hill (jesshill), Friday, 21 March 2003 14:49 (twenty-three years ago)


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