best films of the 21st century

BBC poll weighs in

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20160819-the-21st-centurys-100-greatest-films-who-voted

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20160819-the-21st-centurys-100-greatest-films

as always, individuals more compelling than consensus results

I haven't seen some of these in 15 years, so i have no opinion

tt said she'd poll the top 50, but this way we get to consider the lot of 'em

Correctly called #1 immediately as I'm sure did everyone a

It's certainly my #1.

I think the presence of a Nolan film (let alone two Nolan films) kinda invalidates this list, though.

list is not terrible imo, tho the dark night, spring breakers, and only lovers left alive need to gtfo

llewyn davis continues to seemingly be really overappreciated also idgi

just glancing at the individual lists I would guess #1 and #2 finished comfortably ahead of the pack, looks like at least one is included in almost every list.

more interested in looking at individual lists to find the most off-the-wall selections.

for a second there I thought someone had put Zero Dark Thirty as their no. 1

best anglocentric films of the 21st century plus the odd gesture

I already see someone voted for Step Brothers.

The movies I've seen in the top 10 (Mulholland, TWBB, Spirited Away, Eternal Sunshine, Tree of Life) would probably be in my own top 10, with Tree of Life a very close 2nd.

let's be real, this is a shit list with a few great films on it

I can tell from this guy's picks that he's probably an awful person:

Michael Arbeiter – Nerdist (US)

1. Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman, 2008)
2. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)
3. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
4. Black Swan (Darren Aronofsky, 2010)
5. The Comedy (Rick Alverson, 2012)
6. Melancholia (Lars von Trier, 2011)
7. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
8. Inside Llewyn Davis (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2013)
9. Only Lovers Left Alive (Jim Jarmusch, 2013)
10. The Congress (Ari Folman, 2013)

Definitely a lot of films on this list where it seems like their placement is related to other better, earlier films by the same director....

I'm certainly not about to get on board with a Mulholland Dr. backlash, I love that film. Just saw it in a cinema for the first time in over a decade last week

Haven't really looked at this list

Has anyone seen the Headless Woman? It sounds pretty interesting.

Mulholland Drive is totally excellent (as is No Country For Old Men). In The Mood For Love is fine, but not a patch on earlier Wong. Best movie of the century for any of them, no....

Oh love Mullholland Drive too, I just think that guy's ten taken together make him sound like a miserable and misanthropic bastard.

xxp I haven't, but I have seen La Cienaga and the Holy Girl and they were both great.

No Stray Dogs, no credibility.

Other than that, though, it's about as good as could be hoped? A bunch of boring oscar-pap - American or international - way too many dull films by 90's indie heroes. But three from Weerasethakul, Werckmeister Harmonies. Could be worse.

The Headless Woman is a masterpiece, yes. I need to watch La Cienaga, and cannot wait to see her new film.

@Glenn__Kenny
Hey ladies, MY ballot is TWENTY percent female directors yo

one dude put Jersey Boys #1

lol

‏@labuzamovies
.@Support how do I mute every person talking about a list and whether things are properly ranked

that said, a mere 2 votes for Munich is garbage

xxp I haven't, but I have seen La Cienaga and the Holy Girl and they were both great.

― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, August 23, 2016 5:02 PM (1 minute ago)

Cool, I will keep an eye out for any chance to watch her work. The synopses aren't necessarily striking on their own (I could imagine shitty films being made out of any of them) but the consensus seems to be she shoots and paces really interestingly.

xp 2 votes for Munich is definitely garbage.

oh youuuu

Did each person only pick 10 films? Slightly baffled by placing of stuff like Amelie and the secrets in their eyes

xp ;-)

pretty unfuckwithable top 2 imo. i just saw MD recently and it's all i've been thinking about

love "the new world" showing up, too -- the further i get from that, the more fondly i remember it. "i may have sailed past mine" still slays. that said my favorite malick is "to the wonder"

Yes only 10 it looks like and Amelie was on five ballots.

That's demented

Was it Labuza who put Jersey Boys at 1? Saw him talking how it was an auterist meta-masterpiece or something on twitter a while back.

Secrets in Their Eyes has that one single great shot, at the football stadium. Worth seeing for that shot exclusively, that shot might even be enough for it to be one of the better oscar winners. But, uhm, Argentina has given us an awful lot of superior movies than that.

if you're going to bother complaining about this, complain about boyhood at #5

no votes for "to the wonder" :(

a friend voted for Ingl****ous Bast***s; this will go unmentioned in our next conversation bcz i really try to be a nice guy most of the time.

lol it's p obvious from his tweet Labuza did not vote

if you're going to bother complaining about this, complain about boyhood at #5

Not when it kept the Before Diarrheas outta the top 70

yeah, I think I may be officially too old to complain about lists -- this one actually giving me a lot of ideas of stuff to watch. That said, I will continue to say The Wrestler is the best movie Aronofsky has made so far.

Zodiac is at number 12. I haven't seen it, but can anyone explain to me why this might have stayed in so many people's minds as something to vote for?

I've got a lot of these on DVD, still unwatched.

i love "inglorious basterds", but i'd put the kill bills above them. pretty surprised they didn't crack the top 100

above it*

Zodiac also one I haven't seen. Can anyone tell me which of these I should see first?

2. In the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-wai, 2000)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)
15. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Cristian Mungiu, 2007)
16. Holy Motors (Leos Carax, 2012)
23. Caché (Michael Haneke, 2005)
26. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)

In the Mood for Love somewhat overrated, There Will Be Blood desperately so

This is actually a good way to discern which of these critics are worth keeping an eye on.

In the Mood for Love and Caché are both genuinely excellent, though I'd favour ItMfL for immediate watchability, if that's a consideration.

Zodiac is at number 12. I haven't seen it, but can anyone explain to me why this might have stayed in so many people's minds as something to vote for?

Cuz it's really good, well shot and acted.

..and it's a (murder)geek movie.

no, critics as consumer guides has been established as rong awhile ago

xp

25th Hour is skipable. I'd say the rest are well worth watching in any order.

25th Hour was Lee's best film in years.

I must watch Down with Love (Reed). I love that JR uses the serious "surname only" format in his brackets.

I think I probably saw 30% of The Clock too. It was a fine few hours, but I'd rather not think of it as a film.

If one allows O.J. Made in America, one must allow The Clock.

And the "Single Ladies" music video.

and Jerry Lewis' last telethon monologue about p0rn

Embrace of the Serpent should start making it onto some lists imo

It would be on my list, jmm. I don't think my list will be published.

i liked it fine, but a little too psychedelic for greatness.

I liked it too but better film touching on similar subject called Ixcanul you should check out.

Too hard to put this order, so top 15 I really really love

Children of Men
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
A History of violence
The Tree of Life
Another Year
Anomalisa
Cache
Bad Santa
American Splendor
Im Not There
Offside
Chopper
Dead Man's Shoes
Team America: World Police
Worlds greatest dad

Inside Llewyn Davis
Blue is the warmest colour
Toni Erdmann
American honey
Synecdoche, New York
There Will Be Blood
Dogville
Apocalypto
Before the devil knows youre dead
Elephant

the other 10 are almost a 10/10 imo

Before the devil knows youre dead

among my most hated.

Embrace of the Serpent > Ixcanul. I'm not sure how similar they are, though. Wouldn't put either on them on a top 25 either.

Another Year

I confused this with personal worst of the century contender A Good Year and was pretty shaken for a moment.

Before the devil knows youre dead

among my most hated.

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, June 21, 2017 10:23 PM (three minutes ago)

PSH so great in this

Embrace of the Serpent > Ixcanul. I'm not sure how similar they are, though. Wouldn't put either on them on a top 25 either.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, June 21, 2017 6:24 PM (

nor a top 50

yeah if you're counting 25 films in 17 years, usu has to be in top 2 or 3 annually at least

i think in Cinema Valhalla, both Lumet and PSH regret lasting long enough to make that one.

Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon

Yeah, I think this and Fellowship of the Ring are the major hits I'd include.

I posted this on another thread.

Is there like a reason all these people are doing this shit (I know I know, "reason", lists, lol)

I guess it's important to take stock every um 17 years

writing thoughtful close reading to a deadline is hard

and nobody clicks on it

Is there like a reason all these people are doing this shit (I know I know, "reason", lists, lol)

world's ending

aka the NY Times did a piece, which is why i dread their writing about any rep series in NYC.

I thought maybe I missed the latest Facebook game or something

Think Hoberman got it abt right when he wrote (in that link above), "...there’s nothing that even a recovering film critic likes better than a list."

Not even films

1. Films
2. Booze

1. Acting Superior
2. Lists
3. Films
4. Booze

Did I miss it when someone challenged you, Alfred, to put a list on your blog every day?

(And, yes, lists are the best thing ever.)

Did I miss it when someone challenged you, Alfred, to put a list on your blog every day?

― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.),

No challenge – it's fun. If lists were the only things I was writing, it would embarrass me.

Top 10 Embarrassing Lists Alfred Made in May

xp *Drag Race shade rattle*

ppl love and engage with lists unfortunately

more lists! anger over Million Dollar Baby!

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/4683-the-daily-more-top-twenty-fives

Ugh

you're objecting, Senor Listicle?

I'm objecting to the idea that "Steven Spielberg is a great director" is a thesis statement worth debating.

another one to be outraged by

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/sep/13/100-best-films-movies-of-the-21st-century

Dark Knight kicking things off, promising start right there.

I am pleased to see Être et avoir, which would make my shortlist and which much of the world seems to have forgotten.

........Fucking Ted?

Really?

i think i might've seen Être et avoir? but i will again if so. thx OL

i missed Fucking Ted, was it a sequel?

Breaking Bad spinoff, iirc

I can't believe people still rep for these:

94 Gladiator
80 Requiem for a Dream
77 Lost in Translation
37 Dogville
21 The White Ribbon
7 Synecdoche, NY
6 Hidden (Cache)

I need another look at Synecdoche, a made-to-order film maudit

also liked Requiem back then

thought the list was overall pretty good, although maybe not the order. I love at least four of those films you mention, abanana

Shit list.

At least there would be more anime in the ilx poll

Watched Miguel Gomes' Tabu (2012) tonight, it is interesting. Not very many of the scenes you encounter feel like what you would expect the next scene in the film to be