Pass-Agg Punctuation

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Exhibit A:

People using more than one question mark after a question, esp in work-related communication.

'Did you get my e-mail??????'

Yes, I did, but your aggressive use of question marks means I probably won't answer it ever.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, September 9, 2016 4:45 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Exhibit B: full stops in text messages

what else?

mark s, Friday, 9 September 2016 15:51 (nine years ago)

ellipses make everything sound passive aggressive but are usually used by people for reasons I don't quite understand.

http://writing-skills.com/five-annoying-ways-use-ellipsis

Evan, Friday, 9 September 2016 15:55 (nine years ago)

I like the 'ellipses followed by question mark' combo.

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 September 2016 16:04 (nine years ago)

quotation is ripe for this. [sic] is often snide, quote marks can be used to undermine and of course italicising is a solid way of expressing incredulity at something seen as particularly stupid/awful/otherwise worthy of disdain

worst is the contemptuously ironic and pointed dropping of Gs (esp by someone who would never normally do so), often deployed as a self-satisfied sign off e.g. just sayin'

ogmor, Friday, 9 September 2016 16:07 (nine years ago)

That ellipses article...is more annoying than any ellipsis ever

imago, Friday, 9 September 2016 16:14 (nine years ago)

I use semicolons in text messages.

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Friday, 9 September 2016 16:15 (nine years ago)

That ellipses article...is more annoying than any ellipsis ever

― imago, Friday, September 9, 2016 12:14 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Whatever... it explains some of the things I don't have time to; I don't really "give a shit"... about whether a casually written article... about common annoying ellipses use... is "acceptable"...

Thanks.

Evan, Friday, 9 September 2016 16:26 (nine years ago)

I don't find a full stop at the end of a full sentence text particularly bad and do it myself sometimes, but imo the ones in the example are annoying because they're sentence fragments (and "yeah that's fine." is missing a comma) which makes the full stop at the end seem especially bored and brusque

is there anything worse though than a rhetorical question with a full stop at the end.

I mean a rhetorical question with no question mark can be kinda pass-agg but mostly just casual internet style, but that last one was way worse, right

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 9 September 2016 16:42 (nine years ago)

I text in complete sentences so I pretty much always end my texts with the appropriate punctuation.

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 September 2016 16:49 (nine years ago)

Great thread.

jmm, Friday, 9 September 2016 16:50 (nine years ago)

I index all of mine. "So, if you DO want to meet for dinner but we haven't decided on a place by 7pm, then please refer to Subsection B, Para. 12 of my text of 2:38pm (supra)."

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Friday, 9 September 2016 16:51 (nine years ago)

I guess ellipses would be the appropriate punctuation for textually representing my most hated usage of English: the dismissive 'Oooookay...'

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 September 2016 16:53 (nine years ago)

to me ellipses are more self-consciously wacky than pass-agg but I used to use them a lot and I guess I'm both so either works

I cut down a lot when one really annoying guy used to send emails with... like... so many ellipses per email... with random numbers of dots..... like sometimes really loads and loads of dots......... though the worst,,,, is the comma ellipsis,,,,,, what the fuck does that even mean....

anyway.. I did not want to be that guy... you know how that is... or maybe you don't... I mean, who am I to tell you what you know...

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 9 September 2016 17:05 (nine years ago)

lol was this annoying emailer DOOMIE? he used to post here like that

mark s, Friday, 9 September 2016 17:08 (nine years ago)

celine is all like...whatever.

http://zakhor-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Louis-Ferdinand-C%C3%A9line.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 9 September 2016 17:17 (nine years ago)

ilxors u don't miss^^^

mark s, Friday, 9 September 2016 17:23 (nine years ago)

Celine was aiming for "aggressive pacifist punctuation," got mixed up.

jmm, Friday, 9 September 2016 17:31 (nine years ago)

my text messages are more grammatically correct than my internet posts

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Friday, 9 September 2016 17:46 (nine years ago)

Occasionally try to justify my use of dashes - to the exclusion of - all - other punctuation in emails - as - Dickinsonian - but I think it is just laziness

Stevie T, Friday, 9 September 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)

https://twitter.com/seanonolennon/status/774427567218683904

i'm not sure if it's pass-agg but this comma is certainly intriguing

lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 11 September 2016 21:05 (nine years ago)

Ha -- I was writing yesterday about what periods signify to the young.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2016 21:14 (nine years ago)

Totally feeling this thread. I have trouble in some work contexts not using emojis when clearly they are not professional, but I'd like to stay on friendly terms with someone.

calstars, Sunday, 11 September 2016 22:05 (nine years ago)

Alfred, your post is interesting, but I think you're assuming that by eschewing full stops "the youth of today" are not learning the rules of language. I would counter that they are learning the rules, but that the rules are changing, and in fact they're learning more complicated rules (more forms of written communication -> many more registers to master).

emil.y, Sunday, 11 September 2016 22:27 (nine years ago)

I guess while we're at it, I should disclose my punctuation habits. I'm a full sentence text message person, including the full stop and sometimes even correctly-used semicolons, my god. I tend to only use unpunctuated no caps sentences when I'm sad, or if what I'm writing is so short it seems pointless to bother with punctuation. I used to be an ellipsis abuser, I think I liked the vagueness... which is probably why I adopted the question mark for a statement habit, b/c I don't always want people to think I'm certain if I'm not 100% sure of what I'm saying?

emil.y, Sunday, 11 September 2016 22:32 (nine years ago)

Alfred, your post is interesting, but I think you're assuming that by eschewing full stops "the youth of today" are not learning the rules of language. I would counter that they are learning the rules, but that the rules are changing, and in fact they're learning more complicated rules (more forms of written communication -> many more registers to master).

This is true of my best writers, who force me to reexamine sentences in the way you're describing. In reviews, blogs, and other forms of writing that aren't academic, the quasi-enthusiasm of the well-placed exclamation point works.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2016 22:54 (nine years ago)


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