the alt-right

my fellow liberal cucktards and white-genocide lesbians! the deplorables have risen, and what are we gonna do about it?

cf men's rights thread, that's racist thread, batshit cartoons thread, donald trump thread etc

fwiw https://www.rt.com/viral/361510-alt-right-cheat-sheet-racist/

feel free to use 'hitlers' and 'deplorables' interchangeably itt

"Hitlers" gives them the power they want. We don't want any of these people to start the Siege of Leningrad.

what can they really besiege though, it'll be shit like Green Room from here on out, unless they seize power of a whole country (ahem)

actually Green Room feels like the first film of the resistance to this shit

Ressentiment can tear a society apart. Absurd as these cuckmasters seem, I don't feel sanguine about the threat they pose.
Con

how are they alt though?

They have the courage to actually say what everyone's thinking, unlike what-used-to-be-mainstream PC cuckservatives?

They use new forms of dehumanizing slang -- not just old fashioned slurs -- which is pretty alt.

what gets me is - what is their culture? what is their art? what do they even like?

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement. Their culture is on /b/ and maybe idk theredpill. It's memes, vidya, anime, gore pics, creepypasta, cruel lolz, cringe, and tons and tons of pr0n.

a marginal movement

Um, isn't their candidate the Republican nominee for President?

do they not like music, to paraphrase achewood

I mean, it does feel like the logical endpoint of 4chan, but warped to such a putridity of feeling that I fail to see how these creatures can function in anything approaching society

also, have Anonymous declared war on them yet, or is there overlap?

you're so warped by being a cucked sjw that you can't see that their vision of society is the right one, maaaaan

They have a music board you can check out. They like vaporwave. Re Trump he is their candidate but not exclusively idk it's hard to gauge.

i think there is some overlap

xp

there's an alt right sketch comedy show on Adult Swim now, Million Dollar Extreme, created by this guy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca5Sg3NUsAENTlG.png

their legitimation on adult swim is deeply unsurprising

their liking of vaporwave makes a weird sort of sense. they are the death eaters

i'd like to take this opportunity to big up my favourite alt-right dipshit davis aurini: ostentatious whisky drinker, skull enthusiast, publicly-funded kung-fu movie auteur, and three-time winner of the international skeleton from superted lookalike contest

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ix1Xr8QHpRw/maxresdefault.jpg

just look at his lil' face!

These guys are just adorable

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

i've been watching million dollar extreme. sometimes it is really really funny, and sometimes it is ideologically okay (like the sketch about our shitty drinking water) and then they just say something openly misogynistic or racist or the sketch is just brutally uncomfortable. idk i'd like to discuss it but i don't have much to say. it's clearly unique, and sam is clearly v smart + funny, and also i'm disappointed in adult swim for giving them a platform.

i don't think fedora is entirely linked. there may be associations/links between fedora/brony culture and the alt-right but generally speaking i think fedoras are more likely to show up in cringe threads than be worn by hardcore white supremacists.

where is the alt-right music board?

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

― imago, Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:18 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

xxp counterpoint:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t4AcWFogD60/maxresdefault.jpg

http://boards.4chan.org/mu/

nb that i don't think 4chan is 100% alt-right but i think broadly speaking a lot of the aesthetic comes from there and there's lots of crossover. i wouldn't consider st0rmfr4nt alt-right - that seems more traditionally racist to me.

some of these shitheads are throwing a pro-trump art festival in my borough, i read on the hardening thread.

I looked at that /mu/ for one minute and some poor schmuck started a thread about how Esperanza Spalding, a black female artist, is really good (which she is) - devoured in seconds

I don't think Million Dollar Extreme is really a part of this

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

MDE absolutely is

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement.

i would just like to point out that i wrote about these guys 4 years ago

Milo isn't alt-right. He's an alt-right wannabe / fellow traveller.

Oh, I thought he was a quasi-leader. I'm probably on way the wrong page, then.

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

my impression of MDE is that it's an elaborate troll on anything and everything, I'm guessing the alt-right probably has claimed him but I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

politics for various alt-righters probably differ but on those topics i'd guess the majority are pro-protectionism anti-immigration agnostic on Christian morality (and in many cases ideologically opposed to religious faith) isolationist or in some cases extreme hawkism (drop nukes on the middle east). and of course the central component is defending the race against #whitegenocide. also jew-hating.

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

i think the key attribute marking the "alt" (a p fraught and dumb prefix imo) is determinism.

xp

I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

― frogbs, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:54 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god knows if i can or want to find it again but there are forum posts out there by him that are the now-standard post-libertarian line, like: "i used to be apolitical and in favor of freedom, but now i see that america has been ruined since the civil rights movement and feminism, it needs to be purged" etc

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they are johnny come latelies

it's really not. it jumped on the alt-right bandwagon thru Milo but he started as just an observer and tho the alt-right will pretty much accept any celebrity legitimacy they can get, he remains a controversial figure in the movement (bc he's gay and jewish). he wrote this around the time breitbart began embracing the alt-right: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/ - where you can see that he's interacting w/ them more as an anthropologist than a participant. xxp

didn't realise that Yiannopoulos had jewish heritage

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/203888/donald-trumps-little-boy

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

― Mordy, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:56 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess I never really followed the persona behind it too closely. I read a lot of that stuff as a parody of the alt-right, though I suppose at this point, what's the difference

goole you always amaze/scare me with your knowledge of this stuff

Dark Enlightenment feeds into this, right?

i guess my knowledge of this stuff is just unsurprising :p

Those guys always like the amenities and leafiness of nice suburbs, and send their kids to private schools that pay lip service to equal rights issues.

FWIW, Berwyn isn't some fancy-pants suburb. And as far as white supremacist stomping grounds go, living in a place that's like 65% Hispanic or Latino seems like an odd choice, unless he never leaves the house with the exception of visiting his mom in the proper suburbs or, you know, pepper spraying people that come to the door.

Err well Fuentes is latino, correct?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTT1qUswYL0

^^Reason #3749 To Hate Trump: Charlottesville made this scene not funny.

Wasn't the head of the Proud Boys Latino also? I try not to think about these assholes that often, let alone in too much detail.

I know for a while he was living in his parents' house in Berwyn, perhaps this newest thing is after he moved? idk

He wasn't affiliated with Proud Boys afaik, his group is/was the insanely-online Groypers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers

Of course, like most fascist factions, they have splintered into infighting, mostly about Fuentes

Oh sorry Josh, I read that wrong. One of the leaders of the PBs was Enrique Tarrio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Tarrio

yeah.

I think in the article it says his (Fuentes) mom is in Lagrange, or Lagrange Park.

Didn’t he get into a fistfight with a guy over whether having sex with a woman was “gay”?

I'm pretty sure he's just an all-around normal guy.

Yeah, that's a question as old as time itself

a bit of good news for a change
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/notorious-far-right-troll-ordered-to-pay-up-to-71-million-in-racketeering-scheme-where-he-pretended-to-be-a-spy/ar-AA1IFdV5

A friend of mine mentioned one of those Surrounded ragebait youtube things, this one with Mehdi Hasan as the interlocutor, and I can't think of the last time I saw anything so dispiriting, though tbh I pretty much bounced after a Nazi-defending self-professed fascist took the chair and proceeded to make my jaw drop (and render Hasan speechless). If this is where we (they) are ...

it's very much where we are, a significant portion of the country are proud nazis reveling in their newfound ability to crush their enemies

I comfort myself that the Nazis lost.

only took somewhere north of 70 million deaths....

I've got to admit, I've been thinking about that video a lot. It's really terrifying, and it left me feeling that there's no way out of this. Just how utterly contemptuous those people are, just totally disinterested in comity and norms, even more than I suspected or feared. How do you counter that, people just relishing the most base of beliefs being made manifest, other than all the terrible ways it's been confronted in the past?

Kill all the white people now

Not exclusively a ‘white people problem’ these days.

Jubilee’s entire business model appears to be based on finding people who don’t know how to behave in public - or more specifically, can’t switch register between online and offline. The ones who can are the bigger danger but this has been kind of a sticking point for a lot of the alt-right, Neo-Nazis over the last couple of years. All these guys who fancy themselves as the next Evola or Yockey but spend the bulk of their time posting based Pepes to their frens and crumble under any kind of irl cross-interrogation.

So glad I don’t know who any of those people/things are.

That video is psychotic, but I think it's important to keep in mind that it's rage-bait. Like, it certainly points to real and disturbing things in society that these people's brains have been so thoroughly melted and that they feel comfortable expressing their views in a very public forum, but they're still handpicked wackos.

I even described it as rage bait in my revive. But honestly, my fear is there are actually a lot more of those people out there than I thought, which is to say, enough. Some of those people are, of course, utterly psychos, but even the ones that seemed taken aback by the psychos still identify as "far right" and seemed to have no problem being around said psychos. And even the craziest of the craziest in that room seemed to have put a lot of thought into their beliefs, and the scariest thing to me was that when faced with their hypocrisy or contradictions or even racism, a lot of the times. the response was just "I don't care.'

24 hours later one of the fashiest of the idiots in that video has been fired from his job and is weeping on GoFundMe.

Kooks assembled for the panel or no, I was as shocked as Hasan that so many of them were just open and outright in their literal fascism. So it's perhaps slightly hopeful that any of them will be paying a price for this, though let's keep an eye on that GoFundMe for how much support out there they actually have.

xp The guy who literally said he was a fascist and an admirer of Francisco Franco.

He's raised $29,000 so far, doubling his initial goal:
https://www.givesendgo.com/rift-connor-emergency-fund

Anonymous Giver
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$ 10.00 USD
10 minutes ago
It’s strange that in the U.S., you can openly belong to a communist or Marxist group without issue, but the moment you sincerely identify as a fascist, you risk losing your job. That doesn’t seem fair; or particularly American.

'fuck the tyrants' is about as American as it gets imo

I have been wondering for a while if we're going to get to "so what? what's wrong with being a fascist? what's wrong with Hitler?" and uh I hope this isn't it.

This is probably correct.

The Jubilee economy is gamifying cancelation. Wannabe influencers now try to outdo each other by saying progressively more insane stuff as a way of launching their podcast or YouTube career. pic.twitter.com/Jtk0uif5U9

— Robert Skvarla (@RobertSkvarla) July 22, 2025

It’s the slightly smarter, substantially more anonymous ones who are probably interning for your local Republican Senator you need to worry more about.

That dickhead was the ultimate online guy. In fact, he's the one that mentioned an online alias when introducing himself, right? God only knows what he's posted. But yeah, he was the one that literally identified as a fascist, expressed his love for authoritarianism, big-upped Franco as a model leader and defended the Nazis.

He's raised $29,000 so far, doubling his initial goal

This is about 1/3 of my annual income (between my "day job", freelance writing, and sales of my label's releases/newsletter subscriptions). Can't say I'm impressed.

Except he did it in a day, just by being a fascist. Honestly, it's pretty worrisome that someone would ever embrace Nazism and fascism as a potential career booster.

_Anonymous Giver
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$ 10.00 USD
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It’s strange that in the U.S., you can openly belong to a communist or Marxist group without issue, but the moment you sincerely identify as a fascist, you risk losing your job. That doesn’t seem fair; or particularly American._

Signed, The NYT Editorial Board

That dork apparently goes by the name Pines ap (one word, which I hopefully google-proofed). Worth noting that it's not a GoFundMe, it's that right wing Christian version, the same one that apparently raised half a mil for the woman that called an autistic kid the n word.

https://i.imgur.com/eoGsRIs.png

charming!

The Jubilee economy is gamifying cancelation. Wannabe influencers now try to outdo each other by saying progressively more insane stuff as a way of launching their podcast or YouTube career.

i do think this is exactly it and therefore think it's best not to pay too much attention to this channel and particularly to the dorks who say insane shit to stand out

Again, it's just as worrisome that someone would identify as a fascist or Nazi to launch their podcast or youtube career. That should not be a stepping stone even in a Hawk Tuah world.

it's been like this long before the internet dude

obviously we have real nazis in power right now, so i'm not saying it's all the same. but i think giving oxygen to these turds is no bueno

I agree! With both points, because a big difference *is* a US government that enables and encourages them. Gives them oxygen, if you will. Even hires them, mines them for ideas. We've never really had that before.

something I've definitely noted in the past decade is how the party has drifted away from your standard whitebread "how tf is this guy only 23" type dudes and more towards the people who get kicked off on the first episode of The Bachelor, thank our reality show president

I do think they're miscalculating if they think their bullshit is ever gonna reach some form of mainstream acceptance, even with Nazis in government they're still such repellent personalities, they only appeal to total fuckin losers

And yet, that's apparently enough support to bulldoze through their sick agenda, which the rest of the Republican party, mainstream included, has no problem with. Stephen Miller or JD Vance might dislike being called losers, but those losers are getting their way.

I agree! With both points, because a big difference *is* a US government that enables and encourages them. Gives them oxygen, if you will. Even hires them, mines them for ideas. We've never really had that before.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, July 22, 2025 3:48 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

we've had it at least since reagan

maga fascists need some fashion, should concentrate on camp not kitsch

xpost There were definitely racists and fascists (inc. Ron himself) and probably even Nazis, but who among them was hired *after* publicly, explicitly professing those beliefs?

Anyway, you might not be surprised, but Hasan was:

Mehdi Hasan‬ ✧@mehdirha✧✧✧.b✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧‬ To all those asking in the replies, why do this show and isn't it just platforming hate, fair questions. I struggled with it. I also didn't realize just how extreme these 20 would be (!)

But also, I guess folks should know this is what we're up against and this is what the country contains now.

Did the alt right win?

https://bsky.app/profile/jaredlholt.bsky.social/post/3lwogw2zh3c23

Lost this one btw

https://capitolnewsillinois.com/news/billboard-for-proud-boys-hate-group-removed-in-southern-illinois-after-public-pressure/

Good piece on several notorious sites shutting down now that the ideology they espoused is firmly mainstream right instead of alt-

https://www.ms.now/opinion/alex-jones-infowars-maga-trump-sandy-hook