Pie vs. Cake

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in the uk, pies are savoury and "cake" refers to balanitis

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ban all false binaries

Cake, easily. Not much of a tradition for dessert pies where I'm from, but whenever I eat one, I regret my choice and gaze longingly towards the cakes. Lack of tradition yields lack of quality, perhaps.

That said, dinner pies >>>>>>>>>>> smörgåstårta. Are there other dinner cakes? Aspic, sorta, I guess?

I think limiting the realm of "dinner cake/pie" to the savory ones is a mistake

throw off your shackles, my friends

on one hand, most pastry is awful, on the other, savoury always beats sweet and cakes are barely even food

in related european news i have been considering a panettone vs stollen poll, but not sure italy is getting much of a look-in there (i find it a very tough call myself)

argument for cake: it's delicious
argument for pie: it's delicious

I mean really like those spanish tortillas, the eggy delicious thick-potato-omelette things, are cakes

cakes are barely even food

ban

my vote btw is for pie because I am a fucking glutton. there's no other way to describe me, I like to eat and eat. and I like foods I can eat a lot of. cake, no matter how good it is, I'm good after one piece. especially if it's a rich frosting. the frosting will knock me out. pie, line up half a dozen of them fuckers, I will eat them in sequence and put a bullet between your eyes if you try to sneak a piece from one of the not-in-use pies while I'm busy. cake is lovely, but at the end of the day, it cannot supply me with the quantity I need.

what if... we put frosting on the pie

DISRUPT YR DESSERT

this is so easily pie that im ashamed for the threadstarter, who til now had some credibility on ilx food threads

TS: "When come back, bring cake" vs "Birthday Pie" by Rihanna

the cake is a pie

^^^ gets it

ice cream cake

pen pineapple apple pen

i come from a pie family and will uphold our tradition here

joan completely otm

nut pies (pecan, walnut, etc) > cheesecakes > peanut butter pie & similar > cake > fruit pies

apple pie and rhubarb pie are vital, the other fruit pies i agree are low on the totem pole.

waht

cherry is wonderful, strawberry rhubarb is wonderful, lemon meringue is wonderful, blueberry is just okay tho

strawberry rhubarb falls under rhubarb
lemon meringue falls under custard pies not fruit pies imo

chicken pie above all else

questions before I commit: is cobbler pie?
is cheesecake pie?

cheesecake is pie
quiche is pie
cobbler is not pie

pie is a homeomorphism of pizza in the Four Foods Theory

The early Greeks considered it a cake. Some modern authors point to the presence of many eggs, the sole source of leavening, as proof that it is a torte. Still others claim that the separate crust, the soft filling, and the absence of flour prove that it is a custard pie.[12]

xp

is shepherd's pie pie?
is pizza pie?

Cake is a better frosting delivery vehicle. What is it that pie does again?

xps: if cheesecake is pie that's totally not fair.

shepherd's pie is not pie, it is a casserole
pizza is pizza pie

boston cream pie is a cake

voted pie (peak value) over cake (career value)

if pizza is allowed as pie, pie will wipe the floor with cake. or something else a bit less disgusting sounding.

not necessarily, if pizza is allowed as pie then it stands to reason that gin & tonic can be allowed as cake and then it's all to play for again

i think for this poll we are supposed to consider the traditional dessert pie, excluding pizza, cheesecake, savoury pies, etc. otherwise putting it up against cake makes less sense.

cheesecake is probably the grayest area here

cherry is wonderful, strawberry rhubarb is wonderful, lemon meringue is wonderful, blueberry is just okay tho

man you think you know a guy and then he busts in with a "blueberry is just ok" take. blueberry pie done right is a top five pie

coconut cream > tart cherry > chess > apple > other

The album title is presumably a reworking of the famous "Let Them Eat Cake" quote

want to make a lemon chess pie now hmmm

im assuming this is referring to dessert pies and dessert cakes so does not encompass fatayer/samosas/empanadas vs spanish tortillas. savoury pies vs savoury cakes is difficult. sweet pies vs sweet cakes is easy, clear pies is the answer

imo pizza is very tricky because its crust has yeast. proper cakes and pies really don't, I think -- pie crust, savory or sweet, is flour & shortening whether it's butter or lard or vegetable shortening. cakes that rise are muffins or biscuits. pizza really kinda is just the perfection of savory pie but in my view can only enter a pie vs. cake poll on somewhat false pretenses

agree that leavening is disqualifying here but in a grand taxonomy of food pizza is clearly in the same branch as pie

chocolate bourbon pecan pie is the apex dessert btw

what is a "clear pie"

that does sound good

The Dutch Apple Pie does look like a pie! It has the bottom bit and the crumble makes a kind of lid, so it's more pie-like to me than tart type things.

The 'kitchn' link pretty much firms up the true definition, but I still maintain the average (British) person would expect both top and bottom crusts on something claiming to be a pie. Meaning is use and all that.

the average (British) person

outrageous imo

I voted cake before thinking this through and I've been regretting it every day

It's ok, there's no electoral college in ilx and the right candidate won.

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ice cream cake got robbed

Nobody heard it, the ice cream cake
But still it lay moaning:
I was much further out than you thought
And not waving but melting.

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There's no argument that pie is more versatile and pretty fantastic. But cake is CAKE.

when did cake bacon

it's possible cake baconed before bacon

did pie bacon before weebl? probably

https://twitter.com/barackobama/status/496413655202676736?lang=en

Yeah well he set the scene for Trump, so he can fuck off.

There is no doubt that Trump prefers cake.

cake baconed??

i thought that was cupcakes

tbf in the uk all of baking baconed the moment mary berry lifted a hopeful contestant's vol-au-vent to her lips

bakened

boke

bakt

love chocolate

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Think you'll find that the protruding head makes that a torte

u_u

also must allow doo doo pies

I'm a little embarrassed by how long I laughed at this.

let me tell you something about cake: i want 5 (not four) cakes for this Christmas

because at Christmas, you eat cake

That is more than fair. Cake can have its day, just as every dog has its day.

i have eaten a roughly equal amount of cake and pie over the last 2 days, pie probably edging it

The English seem to favor puddings on Christmas, the poor sods.

Christmas pudding is great but i've got the feeling i'm the only one in this house who likes it

i will readily admit that i could not deny bread or banana pudding on any day

Don't even start a debate as to what is or is not a pudding.

That said, I just baked a dozen individual sticky toffee puddings topped with kumquats that counter the sweetness. Just waiting to be doused with toffee sauce and put under the broiler.

Should say I also made an annoyingly elaborate 4-layer boozy rum cake (took three days!). And my wife made a cheesecake. Or cream cheese pie, if you prefer.

would eat kumquat toffee pudding and/or rum cake, obv

RUM CAKE omg

It's truly insane. Four-layer sponge cake soaked with rum syrup, with layers of rum-spiked cream in between and around the whole pile of cakes, then coated with a rum-spiked whipped cream. In total: 14 eggs, but no butter!

damnnnn!!! jealous.

I think my wife is making a chocolate bourbon pecan pie for tomorrow's dessert festivities. At least I heard the idea floated and now it better happen otherwise a bunch of presents are going straight into the fireplace.

lol

lol

I seem to hear in my mind the faraway voice of an unknown genius who is saying:

"Hmmm. Lovely. Could anything be better than this pecan pie? (inspiration hits like a ton of bricks) Wait! I know! A bourbon pecan pie! But wait! Dare I lift my eyes yet higher, where on yonder heights I seem to see...yes! (swoons briefly) A chocolate bourbon pecan pie!"

At which point the owner of the voice expires in delight and a welter of exclamation points.

pecan pie + lemon meringue are my 2 pies

Yeah, lemon meringue or key lime or cherry for me but on the other hand anything with a healthy booze component is a-ok

also is Baked Alaska a pie?

No. It doesn't even have a crust, does it? Just ice cream in a shell of merengue on cake?

lol yes

'Just' ice cream in a shell of meringue on a cake. 'Just'.

Hahah truthbomb

I wanted baked Alaska for Xmas so bad and white Russians!

ctrl+F "pancake" 0/0

(was reviewing this for a Pi day work argument)