So often I see fantasy/science fiction/horror films, comics and games and I'm just irritated by how unconvincing and unimpressive they look. Or quite pleased but a little annoyed still. Good looking fantasy films are incredibly rare.
I've heard that film novelizations aren't normally allowed to deviate much from the film scripts and that's incredibly disappointing because that means they can't improve on it much other than improving on the acting and special effects.
There's a lot good comic artists but not many get the time to really do a fully convincing job. Same goes for a huge amount of animation. I'd like to see Sandman remade into a book because as much as I like Charles Vess, Sam Kieth, P Craig Russell and a lot of the other artists, the deadlines are still very apparent.
Miura's Berserk comic is one of my favourite stories ever but there's so much that could be cut out of it that a much shorter abridged and reworked comic version or a heavily illustrated novel series would be great.
There's a bunch of things like Kirby's Fantastic Four, Devil Dinosaur, The Demon and Fourth World and Tezuka's Dororo which I've never had the patience for but it would be great if the best elements of each could be condensed into something shorter. Obviously you can't replicate the best of their drawings.
I'd like to see Stephen King's It remade into another book because the concept of a scary clown from the sewers killing children is gold, but the book is a mess. I would have liked more time in the sewers too.
I'm struggling to think of films to be made into something else right now but there must be something.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:28 (eight years ago)
I'm still waiting for the Old Testament series of role playing games. With optional combat rules for miniatures
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:31 (eight years ago)
Were I younger, I would totally read the Akira manga as a novel, ditto most of Osamu Tezuka's works, I think.
There are several video games that I think could be rendered into excellent literature, the same way John McPhee could make a ride on a river barge compelling. Grindy open world games especially.
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:34 (eight years ago)
more Coronation Street novels:
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― soref, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:36 (eight years ago)
I've heard Planetscape Torment is a good story so maybe that should be novelized
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:37 (eight years ago)
i've always felt that some of the mario games could've been turned into better films, or comics, or something. super mario 2 espec is filled w/ haunting themes and settings and genuinely creepy characters that deserve to be expanded on.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:40 (eight years ago)
Oh totally, SMB2 has so much weird shit going on
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:07 (eight years ago)
It's occurred to me many times that Sandman Mystery Theatre would make a great tv show.
― DJ Untz Hall (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:37 (eight years ago)
Now just imagining Jodorowsky's Super Mario Brothers 2
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:09 (eight years ago)
“Wilde wrote a number of plays and also this ‘only’ novel. Unless he was mad, he must have intended to write ‘Doreen Gay’ as a novel, otherwise he would have done what was for him the customary thing – written it as a play. Since however a man of the calibre of Mr MacLiammoir does not hesitate to reverse Wilde’s judgment, I fear we are faced . . . with the theory that Wilde fully intended to write it as a play. He couldn’t think of the word, went ahead writing, and the thing turned out to be a novel!”
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:27 (eight years ago)
“This painter, I say, can it be that he is a novelist? A poet? A worker in exquisite enamels? A musician in the manner of Ravel? For certain it is that painter he is not.”
I'd like Asimov's "Nightfall" either turned into a play or completely rewritten. It's a great idea, but that writing, woof. The Silverberg novel doesn't fix it either.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:16 (eight years ago)
Would love to play classic action films given modern videogame treatment: thinking Indiana Jones, classic Bond, Enter the Dragon etc.
Also a "crying of lot 49" graphic novel?
― thomasintrouble, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 11:25 (eight years ago)
There's a ton of stuff I wouldn't mind seen distilled into a play. ACT I, ACT II, ACT III. SCENE. ACTION. DIALOGUE. EXEUNT. so much more fun than "...he thought to himself"
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 12:48 (eight years ago)
basically I have no attention span left so 100% plays and graphic novels for me pleaseI suspect this is also why I only read nonfiction now?
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 12:51 (eight years ago)
Lewis Trondheim's Mister I/O as flip books
― Wes Brodicus, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 12:55 (eight years ago)
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 12:51
I don't think it really equals certain mediums being more difficult. I don't have the patience for videogames anymore and I rarely finish a nonfiction book, I don't understand why so many people find nonfiction so much easier.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 13:46 (eight years ago)
I don't think most games lend themselves well to stories, as so many games show without being adapted into pure story.
I once read that there's a Mario novel that explains Mario bullied Wario without realising he was doing it when they were children and thus Wario became what he is.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 13:51 (eight years ago)
I think generally nonfiction is easier to pick up and put down. I can come back to a chapter a year after I left it, finish it, learn something, read maybe 78% of the next chapter and then stop, rinse repeat etc
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 14:04 (eight years ago)
Most games would make pretty terrible pulp novels. You might even say it's in their DNA. But I can imagine some open world game playthroughs getting a bit literary with the vistas and the slog and the not-quite-dualist conflict.
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 14:15 (eight years ago)
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― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:59 (eight years ago)
Watching lots of trailers and going, "that looks pretty cool but too much cgi" like a Pang brothers film called Re-Cycle.
Also a really intriguing looking anime called Petit Cossette, but I'm irked by some of the style.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:41 (eight years ago)
Man, almost everything on this thread sounds like a bad idea. But then i'm an idiot who'll go and see the new Alien movie hoping ludicrously for some of that old magic, so what do i know?
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 6 January 2017 00:03 (eight years ago)
this should all be on the "Your Terrible Ideas" thread
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 January 2017 00:07 (eight years ago)
All of this could easily be bad (especially the Kirby stuff because it's hard to substitute his art and I don't know that any of his stories are that good) but films with really heavy special effects rarely work that well and the majority of comics are rushed or don't have an artist who can successfully execute everything the script needs.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 6 January 2017 01:11 (eight years ago)