the most sensible out of these weird parenting tips

http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/parenting/g4223/weird-parenting-trends-100-years/

lard vs tripe which will win

put baby in an oversized shoe, handling baby as little as possible

bacon and eggs at 6 weeks after birth

this... can't be real. at 6 weeks they don't have teeth/can't chew, is this some kind of bacon+egg puree they were given?

complete text from the options that were cut off

20. 1950s: if planning an at-home childbirth, mother must consume two highballs, then stop chores for one hour once a day

31. 1990s: two after-school activities, weekend activities, study groups, tutoring, and as many extracurriculars that can fit into a child's schedule; helicopter parenting

32. 2000s: pregnant women should not cut their hair, because you can't trust hormones to encourage you to make the right decision

most sensible? let the kid suck its thumb when the kid wants to suck its thumb. but finding any sense in that list sets a pretty low bar.

Clearly the most sensible is #26

19. 1950s: if mother is feeling sad, strip furniture

Definitely this one.

Leave it crying

never hug or kiss baby

some pretty volatile petrochemicals involved in stripping furniture

Painful braces on lefties. We could have cured left-handedness by now.

"use painful braces if you must" is generally good advice

The only thing I see wrong with 'city dwellers in tall buildings should place baby in caged portable porches' is that it's a little too restrictive about which babies should be placed in caged portable porches.

wtf even is a 'caged portable porch' ffs, get it together 1930s

it's the picture i posted

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u meant wtf even *is* a caged portable porch

my grandmother is 98 and she told me about baby cages, she said they used them in the kitchen while the women worked, she even said they had a little baby bottle holder the baby could use like a hamster cage

It's somewhat heartening to be reminded that people have been shit at childrearing throughout recorded history.

'heartening'

introduce heart to diet early, alongside liver and tripe, did me no harm

Introduce freshly-carved strips of the flesh from your forearm into baby's diet starting at week 8. Gradually incorporate chunks of your tongue once teething begins.

Good advice, but also be sure to refrain from thinking of ugly things while detaching your arm flesh.

Highballs and "Search For Tomorrow" break!

"use painful braces if you must"

my grandmother is 98 and she told me about baby cages, she said they used them in the kitchen while the women worked, she even said they had a little baby bottle holder the baby could use like a hamster cage

― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:34 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

please don't tell employers with cubicle farms about these

03. 1910s: left-handedness should be trained away. use painful braces if you must

i doubt this was known 100 years ago, but early hand preference, especially if left-handed, is a sign of neurologic abnormality

I kind of like #6, as long as baby has some kind of sun protection. It seems a bit tedious for the minder though.

Clearly the most sensible is #26

otm. even though we do it every night - for reasons of bedtime ritual not of hygiene.

but lard, right?

Those portable cages are quite popular over here. Daycare centers use them too. Not hanging off the top of a friggin building obv, but more like caged beds for toddlers to sleep outside in in the summer.

if baby is crying, don't do anything. a lusty cry is great exercise for baby

if god wanted them happy, he'd have taken them home

yeesh

In my elementary school I was quietly dissuaded from left handedness because only "crazy people" wrote with their left hands.

Those portable cages are quite popular over here. Daycare centers use them too. Not hanging off the top of a friggin building obv, but more like caged beds for toddlers to sleep outside in in the summer.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, March 29, 2017 4:16 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do y'all have mosquitoes??

20. 1950s: if planning an at-home childbirth, mother must consume two highballs, then stop chores for one hour once a day

this but five times a day

Hardly tbf. And there'll be mesh. It looks something like this (in this particular case it looks like a microwave or a huge ass Mac):

http://www.martinusoost.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Aiden_in_lutjepotje.jpg

the couple drinks, couple smokes approach to pregnancy does seem quite civilized

but lard, right?

well a vegetarian substitute yeah.

5 & 7 are evil. we had a book which said if you are doing cry it out, don't pick them to comfort them *even if they vomit*.

That baby cage is...I'm going with hilarious but ymmv.

just makes me think of the time Homer left Maggie behind in the newspaper vending machine

ya i love the idea of leaving baby chill outside

i know the finns do it

it's not something you would be able to do say in the usa though

the cages seem grotesque but they were presumably an attempt at a practical solution to a genuine health issue in cities in the late 19th and early 20 century? = lack of direct sunlight, meaning lack of vitamin D

the UV that delivers vitamin D doesn't pass through window glass -- you need to be in the open air (and you don't get much direct sunlight on narrow city streets with tall buildings)

rickets (bone deformation caused by lack of vitamin D) was common among poor children in cities in the early part of the 20th century -- diet was part of the problem but so was lack of enough sunshine

for working class parents there might be no time during the working day (which often included weekends) to take babies to a park or similar

and cleanup's a breeze. literally.

plenty of vitamin d in breast milk, just don't wean em

lol my grandpa had my mom on 27 though i always assumed it was for an iron deficiency because he was a doctor but perhaps he was also a bad doctor, hm

apparently around the time my mom was pregnant with me they kept touting how pregnant women should drink a lot of milk
she doesn't like drinking milk
needless to say, I was served lots of milk as a small child and also am not that into milk

i love (good tasting) milk

sometimes i drink two glasses a day

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plenty of vitamin d in breast milk, just don't wean em

― a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Wednesday, March 29, 2017 5:16 PM (yesterday)

exclusively breast-fed babies need supplemental vitamin D!

I slurp corrected

as usual it's a bit more complicated than that.

- La Ledge League

not those crazies! well idk they might be ok but there are definitely some breast feeding evangelists out there who would seemingly rather the baby lost weight and the mother her mind than they would ever contemplate bottle feeding.

la leche league is pretty cool ime

there are definitely bf evangelists though who are annoying. formula is a pretty amazing thing, there are obv tons of kids/parents/families who aren't able to breastfeed for whatever reason

putting a baby in a cage though solves most problems bf or not

I would like to set breastfeeding evangelists on fire.

hell yes

surprising the number of people who end up having that opinion!

ts breastfeeding evangelists vs homebirthing evangelists

sorry unfair question they are usually the same people

there is a cross-section who are anti-vaxxers and they are the worst

i have a few friends who have eagerly attempted the whole homebirth thing but it didn't quite work out and they ended up going to the hospital

one baby was said to have a head that was just too big, and i'm kind of shrugging it off thinking yeah, lots of babies look like they have large heads

then i actually met this kid and had to stop from saying "holy shit his head is huge!!"

ftr i'm not sure if it was my comment that ignited this little debate, but i wasn't being a bf evangelist, just repeating a widely-accepted (and not terribly complicated) medical recommendation for most infants who are breast-fed.

most medical recommendations for large heterogeneous groups of people usually aren't complicated. a recommendation that all exclusively breastfeeding mothers take vitamin d doesn't mean that all exclusively breastfeeding mothers *need* to take vitamin d, was all I meant.

the infants take the vitamin D supplements in this recommendation, not the mothers. although most breastfeeding mothers should increase vitamin D intake too!

yes that's what I meant to type, for which my advice goes double. babies might not need the supplement if the mother is taking one, and she might not need it if e.g. her diet is healthy enough. this isn't a hill I'm going to die on or anything though.

there's a room at work for mothers to pump with a little fridge and one day i was thinking, instead of hiding my beer in there in a paper bag (no one is going to search anything in there) i thought, "why not have some milk?"

i am now very strong and my skin is shiny like baby

confirms what i thought about your slurping comment

u still indulge in the breastmilk

it's better than mangos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0EIstnTlBo

can we poll how many ilxors have consumed the breast milk directly from the source

as an adult

I drink only the finest breastmilks

haha there is something about older kids breastfeeding that cracks me up

>2 and that shit just looks funny and it makes me laugh

the knowingness they have about it

there was a time when ilx made us choose between best sex and good eatin

Seemed like the best place to bring this thread up, from today's 'monster' on twitter

Holy shit parenting an 18yo is terrifying and difficult.

They can make decisions???????

That are bad????????

And I can only say "dude that is a VERY BAD decision"??????

— Heron Greenesmith, Esq. (@herong) April 18, 2022

Of all that I've seen this seems like the smartest bit of standing-up for what they were bringing up in that thread

"How is my parenting reproducing gendered expectations that are potentially mutually harmful?" seems like a pretty reasonable thing to ask yourself tbh. I get that everyone is having fun dunking but there are real things there that it would be helpful not to be flippant about.

— Dave (@MediocreDave) April 19, 2022

guess what, humans of all ages can make decisions that are bad

Wonder if the kid will actually see it...

Holy shit parenting an 18yo is terrifying and difficult.

let it go. when parenting an 18 year old you are already more than 18 years into the process, so it's unlikely you'll improve on the results you've already produced.

I can only say "dude that is a VERY BAD decision"?

yup. say it, then stand back and watch. it's not up to you any more.

she adopted him like three months ago so actually very little practice with that particular human it seems

she needs to fully grasp that her only power over her adoptive, but legally autonomous 'adult child' resides in saying, "dude that is a VERY BAD decision". that, plus whatever reservoir of love and respect her 'adult child' may have for her and her opinions. the rules of 'parenting' change under those circumstances, which fact the kid grasps already, but she has some catching up to do.

In my experience with my four kids, trying to protect them from the consequences of their own bad decisions--short of jail, serious bodily injury or death--is a disservice to them.

what the fuck is wrong with people. why would you ever tweet about that.

she adopted him like three months ago so actually very little practice with that particular human it seems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udzIlPcLm3Q

It's entirely possible. There is no age limit.

Back in the dark ages, gay folk used to adopt their partners as they approached the end of life, to ensure that they would have rights as next of kin, since marriage was off the table.

Also, as DJP can attest, the adoption process is not instantaneous. The process probably started well before the young person was 18 yo. Still, it was always going to convert to an adult-to-adult-child relationship on their 18th birthday.

I genuinely didn’t know that! I know about gay adoption but thought it was not an “actual” adoption like adopting a kid.