Well, shit.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 22 May 2017 03:02 (eight years ago)
And if some kind mod could change that to "stars" in the thread title so I look like less of an idiot in my haste that would be nice
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 22 May 2017 03:03 (eight years ago)
welp
― in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 03:06 (eight years ago)
3+4 just went up, talk to you clowns in 3 hours
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 22 May 2017 03:07 (eight years ago)
(1 extra for collecting myself, maybe)
same
― in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 03:09 (eight years ago)
God dammit, I won't be able to watch 3+4 until tomorrow so I'm steering clear until then. But man oh man the first two <3
Also the chromatics owe lunch at least $30
― Karl Malone, Monday, 22 May 2017 03:10 (eight years ago)
Oh fuck it we're watching 3 right now
God this day has been awesome
― Karl Malone, Monday, 22 May 2017 03:12 (eight years ago)
Lynch!
David
Love I
The evolution of the arm was genuinely unsettling and an elegant workaround given Michael J Anderson's instability of late, and the attempted passage out of the Lodge reminded me more strongly of the more abstract passages in Eraserhead than anything Lynch's done since. (I have to wait until tomorrow at least to watch episodes 3 and 4, so I'll be staying out of this thread until then.)
― one way street, Monday, 22 May 2017 03:18 (eight years ago)
do I need to watch the original Twin Peaks before watching this
― sexualing healing (crüt), Monday, 22 May 2017 03:23 (eight years ago)
Yes
― one way street, Monday, 22 May 2017 03:24 (eight years ago)
It won't make sense unless you've watched the series and Fire Walk with Me.
I mean, insofar as it makes sense so far.
― one way street, Monday, 22 May 2017 03:25 (eight years ago)
Well sky are being slowcoaches about putting the next two up so I will just say
Loved what they did with the arm, I got huge eraserhead vibes too
The red room is as weird as ever but it feels a bit like some of the "good" lodge inhabitants are speaking a bit too plainly at times?
I guess they recast Jeffries & maybe maj Briggs too?!
?!?!?!?????!
James is cool
― in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 03:29 (eight years ago)
Oh & I was in bits @ log lady
Yes, very pleasantly surprised by how reminiscent of Eraserhead this was in places.
So...that was Jacques tending bar at the end, yes?
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 03:31 (eight years ago)
I think I laughed harder at "James is cool" than any other line in the first two episodes.
― one way street, Monday, 22 May 2017 03:40 (eight years ago)
It definitely looked like Jacques!
― one way street, Monday, 22 May 2017 03:41 (eight years ago)
Also, yes, the Log Lady scenes were heartbreaking.
― one way street, Monday, 22 May 2017 03:42 (eight years ago)
I do appreciate that Lynch decided to not just maintain the continuity of having a bad Dale running free in the world but to completely upend any sense of fan service by making him irredeemably awful.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 03:53 (eight years ago)
Matthew Lillard has aged worse than anyone who was on the show.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 03:54 (eight years ago)
took me a minute to place it, but did the arm reminded me of the gamesters of triskelion
http://i.imgur.com/JvDohgA.jpg
― “Yeah. Huh, thanks.” (los blue jeans), Monday, 22 May 2017 03:59 (eight years ago)
Now tv still not coming through 😔 might have to go to bed!
The violence/horror in this was so upsetting tho I don't know that I want to sleep lol. The South Dakota & New York scenes are the stuff of nightmares
The palmer house is still a hellish place
A small part of me hopes Robert Forster's part in this is as large as his role in mulholland dr & we just get told he's gone fishin every week until the finale where he's in it for one minute
― in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:01 (eight years ago)
Btw Frank Silva was credited as BOB in pt 2, did I miss something?
― in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:05 (eight years ago)
i'm about to start 4. three was the best yet. this is....really something
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:06 (eight years ago)
xpost Just a brief repurposed scene of Bob and Doppelcooper in the Black Lodge from the final episode.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:08 (eight years ago)
i guess the only grievance i have is the occasionally really artificial quality of the effects (and which is probably magnified for me by how this is filmed digitally) but even in this respect they remind me of lynch's animation
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:09 (eight years ago)
Ah god I have to bail if pt 3 chatter is starting up, fuckin rupert murdoch son of a bitch
Enjoy, those of you who can! :-)
― in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:10 (eight years ago)
I'm determined to wait on 3 and 4 until next week, so I'll probably be bowing out of here soon. I'm just still kinda reeling over this. It's actually happening, and so far it's actually exactly what I hoped for (a new Lynch project that actually feels like a natural progression from his recent work and that continues the story of Twin Peaks in ways that are completely unpredictable and that sears a number of unique and indelible moments onto my brain).
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:16 (eight years ago)
The thing that came out of the box, the other thing sitting on the prison bunk, the evolution of the arm, the various distortions within the Red Room...they're all already enshrined among the pantheon of unshakable Lynch imagery. And I'm only two effing hours in.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:20 (eight years ago)
Oh, and MacLachlan squishing the old dude's face. Momentarily hilarious until you realize what ultimately occurred. That's our Lynch
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:21 (eight years ago)
Only watched up to episode 3 but shit, this is really good!
Straight up near cried during the Log Lady scenes...
― circa1916, Monday, 22 May 2017 04:25 (eight years ago)
What about goddamn Jerry Horne, btw! So much stuff I've already almost forgotten. I may need the week of downtime to rewatch.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:31 (eight years ago)
hahahahahaha holy fucking shit @ cera
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:42 (eight years ago)
i just came here to say the same thing
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:46 (eight years ago)
Okay, yes, I'm out. You guys have fun and we can all talk about Cera next week.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 04:48 (eight years ago)
my initial feeling is that it's like if you took every aspect of TP (except, notably, for the soapiness) and amplified it tenfold - the banal parts are more banal, the goofy bits are goofier, the infuriating bits are more infuriating, the surreal bits are much more intensely surreal.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 22 May 2017 05:09 (eight years ago)
i wanna celebrate a specific thing about episode three but i think i'll wait until tomorrow when more ppl have seen it
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 05:10 (eight years ago)
needless to say this is everything i could hope for
there's even a minor soapy moment wrt the principal and his wife! i loved it
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 05:11 (eight years ago)
yes that is true, felt like a brief resurrection of catherine
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 22 May 2017 05:12 (eight years ago)
14 more hours of this doesn't seem like enough lol
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 22 May 2017 05:13 (eight years ago)
14 more hours of mr. jackpots
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 05:17 (eight years ago)
brad can you give me a hint about the particular thing in ep 3
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 22 May 2017 05:19 (eight years ago)
well now i can't remember if it was ep 3 or 4, but it's when bobby sees a picture
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 05:25 (eight years ago)
Critical scene: delivering shovels to Dr. Jacobi
― Moodles, Monday, 22 May 2017 05:34 (eight years ago)
I appreciated how disconnected and nearly unintellible the first episode was. But by the end of the second, it felt like all the strands were coming together. This show is truly uncompromising. Love it.
I imagine the room with the glass box is probably some wing in Lynch's house where he conducts his experiments with time and space.
― Moodles, Monday, 22 May 2017 05:37 (eight years ago)
only two episodes in, far far better than i was expecting. the cinematography in particular is staggering (except the weirdly conspicuous effects as bradnelson mentioned upthread). biggest distraction/downside so far is this is the whitest thing i've seen since the last australian thing i saw.
― early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 22 May 2017 05:41 (eight years ago)
xp that entire scene with bobby outside the diner is peak Lynch horror.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 8 February 2025 17:55 (eight months ago)
I meant it honestly - but to clarify: I can’t imagine wanting to change a single thing about the return, there might be things people would have liked more of, or less of, which is fine, but it’s a personal preference and has no bearing on what Lynch wanted to produce. X post
― I am using your worlds, Saturday, 8 February 2025 20:42 (eight months ago)
Yeah it definitely has that White Album, warts and all, not everything is equally meaningful, but everything has its sacred place, kind of vibe for me.
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 8 February 2025 21:14 (eight months ago)
Jim Belushi is “Piggies” I guess
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 8 February 2025 21:15 (eight months ago)
Belushi was great in The Return!
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 8 February 2025 21:30 (eight months ago)
He sure was!
Green glove guy can be Piggies, or Bungalow Bill maybe
― Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Saturday, 8 February 2025 21:36 (eight months ago)
Less Caleb Landry Jones would’ve been good!
― completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 8 February 2025 21:55 (eight months ago)
(xposts) Okay. Even my very favourite films have something that nags at me--a supporting performance, a line, something--and they run two or three hours, not 18. And personal preference is always more important to me than whatever the artist did or didn't intend; I'm me, not David Lynch.
― clemenza, Saturday, 8 February 2025 22:43 (eight months ago)
i think the point being personal preference is a different category to criticism that aims at the intent or execute of something
im as prone as anyone else not from finland to musing about how something could have been more perfectly tailored to my own special desires but thats a very different thing than opining whether an effort misses the mark it aims for, as a rule?
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 February 2025 23:36 (eight months ago)
Especially true on a show full of scenes that aim for a kind of Dadaist anti-entertainment.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 8 February 2025 23:43 (eight months ago)
personally I think it's OK to not like something. especially if it sucks
otoh I often find myself thinking "call for help"
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 8 February 2025 23:55 (eight months ago)
I'm either misunderstanding, or we just have a fundamental disagreement. I'm reading this as, The Return is so locked up in some private universe of David Lynch's making, it's immune from all criticism; you're welcome to criticize, but your criticism belongs to you and has no bearing to the show, which is perfect.
― clemenza, Sunday, 9 February 2025 00:01 (eight months ago)
The 'ardware stowah
― the wedding preset (dog latin), Sunday, 9 February 2025 00:20 (eight months ago)
The clurk in the 'ardware stowah
― the wedding preset (dog latin), Sunday, 9 February 2025 00:21 (eight months ago)
xxp exactly! Lynch cannot fail, he can only be failed.
― I think we're all Bezos on this bus (WmC), Sunday, 9 February 2025 02:45 (eight months ago)
it is a good bit, never explain anything, if someone thinks it's rubbish it's because they don't get it. you can never fail. I am glad he stuck to that tbh. apart from that green glove guy, wtf was that
I don't know if I'll ever rewatch this. it is brilliant, and I do repeat things from it in my head a lot, but it's tied up with a lot of things I don't really want to revisit yet
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 9 February 2025 03:00 (eight months ago)
I do associate with 2017 and being bummed by the start of Trump’s term
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 9 February 2025 11:56 (eight months ago)
CP went through a family illness and loss at that time iirc
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 9 February 2025 12:06 (eight months ago)
I just watched the bit where the gun goes off at the diner and it's just like "whoa okay. Whoa now what. Holy-- whoa okay yikes!"
That scene is mental.
― Ste, Sunday, 9 February 2025 17:41 (eight months ago)
Finished my third run of this with my partner and daughters. As before, it stirred vast currents below the surface and left me feeling profoundly uneasy and adrift.
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 9 February 2025 17:46 (eight months ago)
Well that was a trip. Finished it tonight. I'd be ready to say as a complete work it outstripped even Mulholland Drive for me.
Still scratching my head about the final episode of course, but that's the idea I suppose.
Green glove kid is not good though. Every time he appeared on screen I could not take it seriously in any way
― the wedding preset (dog latin), Monday, 10 February 2025 00:25 (eight months ago)
Knowing it was a fun thing he wanted to do with Jack Nance was helpful to me. Also helps lean into the "we live inside a dream" thesis.
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 10 February 2025 01:14 (eight months ago)
Every time he appeared on screen I could not take it seriously in any way
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Monday, 10 February 2025 09:51 (eight months ago)
just finished my rewatch and the green glove guy is fine. a really hilarious plot point
the only things that suck about the return are:- the overwhelming misogyny- the wigs
― ivy., Sunday, 23 February 2025 16:51 (seven months ago)
All of the Audrey thing is unfortunate. And boring.
― kraudive, Sunday, 23 February 2025 21:25 (seven months ago)
that’s actually one of my favorite plotlines
― ivy., Sunday, 23 February 2025 21:26 (seven months ago)
it’s purgatory
For her or anyone watching?
― clemenza, Sunday, 23 February 2025 23:34 (seven months ago)
I didn't know what to make of the Audrey stuff, it felt a bit thrown in at the end
― the wedding preset (dog latin), Monday, 24 February 2025 01:18 (seven months ago)
it literally was. Fenn declined the original plotline that Frost & Lynch wrote (the Sylvia/Johnny scene was originally Audrey) and Lynch worked up something she found acceptable and shot it separately.
― joey crack, aka kaiser saucer (sic), Monday, 24 February 2025 03:42 (seven months ago)
and it’s really good imo
― ivy., Monday, 24 February 2025 04:04 (seven months ago)
Yeah I like Audrey's dreamstate universe. It is frustrating, in the same way as Dougie is frustrating, the denial of fan service. But Lynch liked playing with that kind of stuff.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 February 2025 04:09 (seven months ago)
what else was in the original plotline aside from the johnny/sylvia scene?
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 24 February 2025 05:11 (seven months ago)
the last Audrey shot is pretty special
― Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Monday, 24 February 2025 06:17 (seven months ago)
xp I dunno and I don’t wanna know! (just happened to rewatch ep 10 two days ago and remembered). I read her segments on first viewing as her still being in a coma after the bank explosion, but hearing / perceiving things outside and trying to process them while being confused by her powerlessness to act on anything.(Having since seen a little about Frost’s, Fenn’s and Lynch’s individual readings on the scene/s, I expect to stick to my first take when I get there.)
― joey crack, aka kaiser saucer (sic), Monday, 24 February 2025 09:26 (seven months ago)
this time through i am enormously enjoying the dougie sequences for and in themselves (not even a challops, i will explain all* when i complete the rewatch)
(also i like how evil coop's legs seem much longer than dougie's: i assume this is some tailoring trickery with where and how KM's respective costume jackets are cut but)
*(some, possibly)
― mark s, Monday, 24 February 2025 10:48 (seven months ago)
no his legs are just longer
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Monday, 24 February 2025 11:55 (seven months ago)
27 years spent sat in the lodge comfy chair will just do that to yr thighs (render them squishy)
― mark s, Monday, 24 February 2025 11:57 (seven months ago)
I was just going through the credits and have no memory of Jeremy Davies or Moby being in this!
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 24 February 2025 12:37 (seven months ago)
Moby played guitar during Rebekah Del Rio's set at the Roadhouse.
― peace, man, Monday, 24 February 2025 12:49 (seven months ago)
I'm not familiar with Jeremy Davies, other than his name, but I looked up his TP performance, and it shines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmuH1042AFo
― peace, man, Monday, 24 February 2025 12:52 (seven months ago)
Had to look it up but Jeremy Davies was one of the loan sharks Naomi Watts gave two barrels to in this scenehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmuH1042AFo
― Alba, Monday, 24 February 2025 12:54 (seven months ago)
Oh sorry, xpost Watched Solaris again the other day with JD's twitchy performance
― Alba, Monday, 24 February 2025 12:55 (seven months ago)
hes an incredible twitcher i love him
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Monday, 24 February 2025 13:24 (seven months ago)
Tbh I think he might overdo it in Solaris
― Alba, Monday, 24 February 2025 14:10 (seven months ago)
"Nevertheless, lady..."
― peace, man, Monday, 24 February 2025 14:22 (seven months ago)
Barely remember the first season and love FWWM. Started on the first two EPs over the weekend and loving it. How freaky is that glass box between the talk of coffee and Doughnuts? That's right.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 April 2025 20:58 (six months ago)
Apparently there’s a documentary about the life and death of Catherine Coulson with various screenings in the next month or two: https://iknowcatherine.com/blogs/news/screenings
― JoeStork, Sunday, 6 April 2025 22:57 (six months ago)
Halfway through. Loved the 1946-50s sequence and really enjoying it overall though that was unexpectedly cool to have it dropped in.
Which brings me to how different the pacing is. Lynch will give a particular scene a good 10-15 mins to play out. Really unlike any TV I've seen (though I've not watched much TV properly for a good decade).
Nine Inch Nails have been the worst band so far.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 April 2025 13:58 (six months ago)
Three EPs from the end. The log lady's calls to the sheriff are really something else. What a character.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 May 2025 07:29 (five months ago)