https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/be476d2728f682570af639492ab3b385818c0389/18_186_2470_1482/master/2470.jpg?w=965&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=e02549e244d999afe85d454ed45bfa40
― mark s, Sunday, 11 June 2017 13:21 (eight years ago)
I have a theory that the Daily Telegraph catoonist "BLOWER" is in fact BRANCO (see the bad US politics cartoons thread) doubling up on his income by working under a pseudonym
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/05/30/cartoon-30052017-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqgCXocDQF5kP7s3jSjli3eCH0-jRUT4rHK8EgtaGoQwQ.gif
― soref, Sunday, 11 June 2017 16:25 (eight years ago)
is drawing a tortoise really that hard
― devvvine, Sunday, 11 June 2017 16:27 (eight years ago)
I'm trying to parse that first cartoon, but no, it's not happening. I assume that it suggests that whatever Brexit happens it's bad for business, but suspect I've got that all wrong.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 11 June 2017 16:32 (eight years ago)
grudging respect for the shamelessness of not bothering to work out a way to complete his Abbott and Costello pun and just drawing a big picture of Corbyn covering up the rest of the name
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/05/09/blower170507-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqeo_i_u9APj8RuoebjoAHt0k9u7HhRJvuo-ZLenGRumA.jpg
― soref, Sunday, 11 June 2017 16:34 (eight years ago)
Bud Abbott and Lou Costello? More like DUD ABBOTT and LOSER CO(rbyn)STELLO, right? *submits cartoon to Daily Telgraph, slopes off to spend rest of the day in pub*
― soref, Sunday, 11 June 2017 16:37 (eight years ago)
haha yes i have a full-size version of the first cartoon open in my tabs, i keep going back to see if the penny's dropped, but no, it is more mysterious than ever
most of his other cartoons are just ugly clumsy and obvious -- he's been getting work for years! -- but there's a sort of wtf poetry to this one
― mark s, Sunday, 11 June 2017 16:55 (eight years ago)
wot no Mac?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/08/01/41350AB800000578-0-image-a-34_1496880366602.jpg
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 11 June 2017 17:02 (eight years ago)
90% sure he has just recaptioned an old cartoon there
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 11 June 2017 17:03 (eight years ago)
ok not to be caot defend-a-mac, but that is a serviceable and well drawn* cartoon making a political point i disagree with
*obviously he's always been a giles knock-off so i hate him for that reason****my mum drew my attention to how well mac draws curly telephone flexes, which is an odd thing to notice, but once you do, she was right, he was good at it, and perhaps still could be were there a need
― mark s, Sunday, 11 June 2017 17:19 (eight years ago)
How to tell if you've drawn a really good cartoon:
http://i.imgur.com/GkhuTA9.png
― pplains, Sunday, 11 June 2017 17:25 (eight years ago)
Blower is esp. terrible.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 June 2017 17:42 (eight years ago)
it's weird, i know people irl whose mental landscape re: politics is accurately illustrated by these guys
and the arguments are near identical to the stuff Tressell mocks in The Ragged-Trousered Philanthropists, lickspittles are tenacious
― There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2017 17:48 (eight years ago)
a year old now yet suddenly relevant AND badly drawn https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCC-IwAW0AAGPcj.jpg:large
― mark s, Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:27 (eight years ago)
Brookes also drew this oddly terrifying Boris/Gove cartoon:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmQw0nlUsAAOmra.jpg
― soref, Sunday, 11 June 2017 20:10 (eight years ago)
Boris bearing uncanny resemblance to Rod Liddle in top panel.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 11 June 2017 20:13 (eight years ago)
Not enough Martin Rowson on this thread.
― Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Monday, 12 June 2017 08:06 (eight years ago)
posting cartoons from low circulation trot newspapers feels a little like breaking a butterfly on a wheel, but I was impressed by the number of captions on this one
http://i.imgur.com/BjRupxd.png
― soref, Saturday, 17 June 2017 23:09 (eight years ago)
gerald scarfe is bad not good: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/81420000/jpg/_81420916_geraldscarfe.jpg
― mark s, Sunday, 18 June 2017 12:38 (eight years ago)
britain's last-ditch stunt: the davis-yeltsin switcheroo
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCoaEnuXcAAcbe1.jpg:large
― mark s, Monday, 19 June 2017 09:37 (eight years ago)
i think that's victor garber at the eu end of the table
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNTQxODYxNzE3NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTM4MTMwMg@@._V1_UY317_CR20,0,214,317_AL_.jpg
― cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 19 June 2017 09:39 (eight years ago)
― soref, Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:09 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
some fine art brut here
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 June 2017 16:55 (eight years ago)
polly toyn
― mark s, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:57 (eight years ago)
i like how the cartoonist just went ahead and wrote "shit" on the pile of things he hated
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 June 2017 16:59 (eight years ago)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Fa09e347c-dcf5-11e6-b8ce-5a639b2dfcaa.jpg?crop=3460%2C1946%2C263%2C147&resize=685
― mark s, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 19:01 (eight years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDAKNPxWsAAEKGR.jpg:large
― mark s, Friday, 23 June 2017 12:01 (eight years ago)
bit sad abt nosferatu, he did bad things but he doesn't deserve this
― mark s, Friday, 23 June 2017 12:02 (eight years ago)
bad cartoon about Europe from 1989
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2f/6d/49/2f6d49ea9ea51c4bd0ab05b1b7fbea2d.jpg
― soref, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:11 (eight years ago)
Hallmark of bad cartoons = everything has to be labelled. I know this has been said before, but they keep doing it. Are there editors out there encouraging this?
Also, am yet to see a successful rendition of Michael Gove. He is somehow beyond caricature,
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:35 (eight years ago)
did you not see the cartoon above portraying him as a fish eating Boris Jonson's head or
― soref, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:56 (eight years ago)
brookes is just drawing pob
― mark s, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:58 (eight years ago)
drawing him as pob is ok because he does look quite like pob, but it's not enough because he is also much more repulsive than pob. I can see them going for a cross between pob and a human, whereas the real thing looks like a cross between pob and a body from the haunted swamp.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 6 July 2017 16:42 (eight years ago)
This is surely the canonical Gove?http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oHfzDFoVDvk/UEYRaaaY5EI/AAAAAAAAF9M/afSgSxxnk_0/s1600/Stephen-Collins-17-March--001.jpg
― Stevie T, Thursday, 6 July 2017 16:47 (eight years ago)
Basically Pob crossed with Mr Bean.
― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 July 2017 16:53 (eight years ago)
Steve Bell belongs on here, though some will I'm sure defend him on the grounds of perserverence: "They don't get it... It's funny because it's not really a monkey, it's really George W Bush... Oh well, maybe next time."
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 7 July 2017 06:28 (eight years ago)
Hallmark of bad cartoons = everything has to be labelled
It's more that ppl like Cummings were steeped in the history of political cartooning, where labelling was as much a part of the style as thought balloons were in comic books. And as with thought balloons, labelling in political cartoons nowadays is very hard to pull off - it's become an 'ironic' device that yes, signals 'bad' cartooning.
Not to defend Cummings, whose work always lacked Mac's visually pleasing cartooning skills - though I guess the dour ugliness of Cummings' drawing style is editorially appropriate for the Express.
― Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Friday, 7 July 2017 07:52 (eight years ago)
I do think Cummings deserves some credit for the look of "never in all my days" indignation on the Sovereignty Dolphin
― soref, Friday, 7 July 2017 08:01 (eight years ago)
Thatcher in a swimsuit is really disturbing me
― more polls about food and reactionary art (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 July 2017 08:52 (eight years ago)
cummings has a style, i always liked the thickness of his line (not well shown off in this example)
i will defend bell: he has a highly original symbolist imagination, which i think is a hard thing to retain after decades of turning out cartoons to order several times a week
(if he has flaws they are rarely the flaws of reach-down banality: i wd honestly rather an artist is drifting the outer reaches of his/her unconscious for insight and intuitive connection than hunkering down in the ante-room of cliche) (true he's sometimes very bad on the power dynamics of sex stuff: there be dragons in the outer reaches of yr unconscious)
― mark s, Friday, 7 July 2017 09:24 (eight years ago)
i always enjoyed the pleasure cummings took in drawing brezhnev
― mark s, Friday, 7 July 2017 09:25 (eight years ago)
I always stand by Steve Bell as an uncompromising angry leftist in a world of scumbags.
I also think that his bigger images often show him painting really well and evocatively. He has a good appreciation of art history and artistic method. And he is also a lucid and intelligent writer, better than many other people who write for the Guardian but can't draw.
― the pinefox, Friday, 7 July 2017 09:27 (eight years ago)
he was rubbish on university challenge (alumni edition) though.still have fond memories of the complete set of the collected 'If...' as a kid, 7 or 8 volumes, probably long term borrowed from my older brother or parents.
― The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 7 July 2017 17:46 (eight years ago)
... there was a quotidian, almost cosy quality to its anarchic silliness, not unlike the young ones.
― The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 7 July 2017 17:47 (eight years ago)
man at bar: lager lager lager lager lager lager lager 'n' a babychampenguin: congratulations on your brilliant impression of a bus breaking down!^ quality original material
― The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 7 July 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)
Steve Bell is not bad as an artist, surely. I mean he has his own very distinctive style which works well.He does keep doing things like this though
https://edinburgheye.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/stevebell_incest.jpg
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:11 (eight years ago)
I like If and Maggie's Farm
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 7 July 2017 23:33 (eight years ago)
Steve Bell's debt to Robert Crumb + American underground comix seems more or less unique for a UK editorial cartoonist?
― soref, Saturday, 8 July 2017 00:11 (eight years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEIO1g0XYAAJfvk.jpg
terrible + disablist cartoon in Osborne's Evening Standard shocker.
― calzino, Saturday, 8 July 2017 13:40 (eight years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGOEdB6W0AAHrQr.jpg:large
― mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 18:26 (eight years ago)
quite like adams' angular style, this isn't a bad cartoon in the sense the o/p is a bad cartoon
obviously his politics are as bad as his grasp of what's going on in venezuela or indeed the labour party
― mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 18:29 (eight years ago)
"saffron swire" ?????? cmon now the AI needs to try a little harder than this surely
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 July 2025 07:57 (three months ago)
Saffron Augusta Petrushka Swire, please.
― ShariVari, Monday, 21 July 2025 08:01 (three months ago)
https://bsky.app/profile/zarahsultana.bsky.social/post/3luglijezkc2u
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 21 July 2025 08:25 (three months ago)
Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.) at 7:33 21 Jul 25(xps) Who is the guy in the water?
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 21 July 2025 08:28 (three months ago)
(xp) John Nott's granddaughter!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln3SpXXYTHY
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Monday, 21 July 2025 08:33 (three months ago)
Hopefully she'll be gone tomorrow then
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 July 2025 09:17 (three months ago)
guy in the water is supposed to be Environment Secretary Steve Reed I think, and it works insofar as he's a nondescript grey-haired middle aged bloke in a blue suit
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 21 July 2025 09:58 (three months ago)
to be clear: the cartoon as a whole is an abomination
I do feel a little sorry for Saffron in that the nu-Observer doesn't seem to have ever tweeted out a cartoon before, which makes me suspect that they chose to tweet this one with the caption 'cartoon of the week' and the artist's name because they anticipated that UK twitter leftists would make it go viral. Anyway, the tweet has now been deleted and the cartoon appears to have been unpublished from the Observer website?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 21 July 2025 10:40 (three months ago)
it is funny how literally every member of her family appears to have their own wikipedia page. Her uncle composed the music for all the Wallace and Gromit films.
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 21 July 2025 10:46 (three months ago)
she's also distantly related to the lead singer from Pendulum/Knife Party
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 21 July 2025 10:55 (three months ago)
And a descendant of a notorious drug smuggler.
Sorry 19th century import export business engaged in the China trade that lead to two opium wars.
― Ed, Monday, 21 July 2025 11:10 (three months ago)
what's kind of funny is that Swire has kind of done her homework a little bit: the art is not a million miles away from the initations the whatsapp Corbyn canvassers group puts out:
https://i.ibb.co/5hX3MKSc/Whats-App-Image-2025-07-14-at-13-38-34-580020e0.jpg
If it wasn't for the racism and crude anti-communism she might have got points for that
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 21 July 2025 12:06 (three months ago)
At first glance Crombwell's hand there looks like it's mutated into a scythe
― a product of the times, those times being the end times (Matt #2), Monday, 21 July 2025 12:32 (three months ago)
A sickle you mean.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Monday, 21 July 2025 12:43 (three months ago)
Pizza is one of the favorite foods of the young people in Asmara.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Eritrean_cuisine
― tortillas for the divorce party (seandalai), Monday, 21 July 2025 14:22 (three months ago)
https://i.imgur.com/JVq246r.jpeg
― conrad, Thursday, 31 July 2025 12:58 (two months ago)
he's still got it!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 31 July 2025 13:10 (two months ago)
tbf Matt is like a master of the renaissance standard cartoonist compared to most of the dreadful shit posted here recently
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 31 July 2025 13:13 (two months ago)
important to remember that these are the crème of the crop and that there are thousands of unpublished Matt cartoons sitting in an archive somewhere that didn't make the grade:
He arrives in the office at nine o’clock, then spends the morning studying the newspapers and trying out various ideas. By mid-afternoon, he has produced about six cartoons, which he touts around colleagues, like a comedian road-testing jokes, before taking them to the night editor, who helps him whittle the six down to three. It is the editor of the paper — lucky, lucky man — who gets to make the final selection.“The Matt cartoon is the highlight of the day for people up and down Britain,” says William Lewis, editor-in-chief of the Telegraph. “But I am in the privileged position of getting to see it in the afternoon, before publication. And, what’s more, Matt gives me at least three of his gems to choose from every day. As you can imagine, it’s a tough task plumping for one over the other two — but it’s easily the most enjoyable part of being editor of The Daily Telegraph.”
“The Matt cartoon is the highlight of the day for people up and down Britain,” says William Lewis, editor-in-chief of the Telegraph. “But I am in the privileged position of getting to see it in the afternoon, before publication. And, what’s more, Matt gives me at least three of his gems to choose from every day. As you can imagine, it’s a tough task plumping for one over the other two — but it’s easily the most enjoyable part of being editor of The Daily Telegraph.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20100719171305/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/cartoons/3211497/Cartoonist-Matt-makes-his-mark-with-a-gentle-touch.html
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 31 July 2025 14:22 (two months ago)
amazing to think that you could pick any random weekday over the last 37 years and somewhere there are five corresponding Matt pocket cartoons about contemporary news stories that the then editor of the Daily Telegraph didn't consider funny enough to run
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 31 July 2025 14:28 (two months ago)
matt needs to get himself on patreon is what this makes me think
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 31 July 2025 14:31 (two months ago)
all i see is the wasted effort in redrawing it. could've just changed the text.
― koogs, Thursday, 31 July 2025 15:18 (two months ago)
what percentage use the Rumplestiltskin joke tho?
― fetter, Thursday, 31 July 2025 15:59 (two months ago)
Slightly mystified that he bothered to re-draw it.
― chap, Friday, 1 August 2025 08:38 (two months ago)
100% of his work is cock-and-balls for faces and he redraws it every time! he loves to redraw!
this is why he's good not bad btw and the rumpelstilstkin development simply affirms this
― mark s, Friday, 1 August 2025 09:33 (two months ago)
He gets up every day to do the same task, like some zen buddhist monk.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 1 August 2025 09:50 (two months ago)
correct
― mark s, Friday, 1 August 2025 09:55 (two months ago)
Once saw an original Wizard of Id strip where they'd simply pasted in new dialogue on old drawings.
And I think it's a Fleet Street tradition for the daily cartoonist to show the editor a number of different roughs (Mac of the Daily Mail: "Here's a slightly racist one, here's a very racist one...")
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 1 August 2025 09:58 (two months ago)
Editor: "No, they're still not racist enough".
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Friday, 1 August 2025 09:59 (two months ago)
kickstarter for an A3-sized coffee table book on glossy 250gsm paper with every matt cartoon including rejected drafts, each on its own page, with a critical essay from mark s
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 August 2025 11:39 (two months ago)
yes but it's A2-sized
― mark s, Friday, 1 August 2025 11:47 (two months ago)
every other page of the book should be printed on that translucent butter paper type material, and the translucent pages have the full cartoons printed on them and the normal pages just the cock-and-balls shapes with everything else removed
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Friday, 1 August 2025 12:48 (two months ago)
Why is Rumpelstiltskin so angry in the first cartoon?
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Friday, 1 August 2025 12:51 (two months ago)
i: he's called rumpelstiltskin (ugly name)ii: he has to listen all day to bad guesses what his real name is (annoying and humiliating) iii: he has issues! when his name is is correctly guesses he stamps so hard his foot goes through the floor and when he tries to pull it out he tears himself in two!! iv: thank you for reading, we've been the GRIMM brothers
― mark s, Friday, 1 August 2025 13:08 (two months ago)
And yet he seems quite chill in the second cartoon.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Friday, 1 August 2025 13:19 (two months ago)
hard to stay that angry for five years
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 August 2025 13:21 (two months ago)
evil imps will turn the site of their defeat into comedy shtick rather than go to therapy
― mark s, Friday, 1 August 2025 13:26 (two months ago)
clearly Rumplestiltskin is an author insert
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 August 2025 13:32 (two months ago)
I think it's a nice name tbh
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 August 2025 13:39 (two months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4zCD4baQAE2ZvY.jpg
― mark s, Friday, 1 August 2025 13:51 (two months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2025/aug/04/stephen-lillie-labour-small-boats-distraction-cartoon
Just unbelievably literal in comparison with the headline.
How sad was the moment when he decided to put "distraction" in text at the top.
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 5 August 2025 08:18 (two months ago)
the COVID rules could be quite confusing, they often changed and sometimes seemed contradictory - this was especially true on the lead up to xmas 2020
― conrad, Tuesday, 5 August 2025 12:00 (two months ago)
Also having to give back that baby he kidnapped I expect.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 August 2025 12:19 (two months ago)
Always peeves me whenever I have to do that.
― Corny Capitalism (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 August 2025 12:29 (two months ago)
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/81b6aff98123f050dbc9c85db8a20500083fed9c/45_46_746_569/master/746.jpg
daughter of matt does it again
― conrad, Tuesday, 5 August 2025 20:15 (two months ago)
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/81b6aff98123f050dbc9c85db8a20500083fed9c/45_46_746_569/master/746.jpg?width=480&dpr=2&s=none&crop=none
?
It drives me nuts how she still hasn’t bothered to find out how venn diagrams work; neither in maths nor in the popular imagination.
― Ed, Tuesday, 5 August 2025 20:37 (two months ago)
Couldn't just draw the Predator handshake I guess.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 5 August 2025 20:43 (two months ago)