Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

Dud

good luck donald trump

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Ten-year-old nabisco offTM:

Here's something funny: when I was ten years old I had a vague admiration for Donald Trump and Lee Iacocca (both very feted at the time) and a downright intense love of Alex P. Keaton from Family Ties, who I didn't understand to be something of a joke. As such, despite having really liked Mondale -- having a woman as a running mate impressed me, probably because of the mother/father dynamic of it -- I was convinced that I wanted to be a Republican and a businessman or lawyer of some sort. In fact, I started a "company" with my friends Brian and Jeff -- we made board games, and hired Tony, the best breakdancer I have ever known, to do the art -- and I was constantly attempting to read the law and economics books in my father's library. Everyone seemed to think this was "cute," though I sort of wish someone had just explained politics to me. In either case, I got over it quickly and went back to wanting to be a writer.

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― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:28 PM (fourteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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i suppose 'classic' in that he's all a lot of people can think about or talk about and his brain dmamage is so powerful it's infected the world

p bad president and person tho

takes balls to rock that combover day in and out

I can see the blood from the man-flesh on his teeth!

What you lookin' at?
You all a bunch of fuckin' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be?
You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say,
"That's the bad guy.
" So... what that make you? Good? You're not good.
You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.
So say good night to the bad guy!
Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you.
Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through! Better get outta his way!

You certainly don't, pal, 'cause the good news is - you're fired. The bad news is - you've got, all of you've got just one week to regain your jobs starting with tonight. Starting with tonight's sit. Oh? Have I got your attention now? Good. 'Cause we're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired. Get the picture? You laughing now? You got leads. Mitch and Murray paid good money, get their names to sell them; you can't close the leads you're given, you can't close shit. You ARE shit! Hit the bricks, pal, and beat it 'cause you are going OUT!

Search: "move on her like a bitch"

Destroy: everything else

"Trump never said he had tapes, he just inferred that he did. And it is not intimidating a witness since Comey is telling the truth and knew that any tapes would prove his version of events."

everyone is classic but not everyone should be president

President Don once had a dream
The world held his hand, gave their pledge
So he told them his scheme for a savior machine

Trump lingered last in line for brains
And the one he got was sorta rotten and insane
Small hands (so sad!), a rust-hued clown
Is Trump fast asleep or rockin' out with Three Doors Down?

Murricuns electing Donald Trump: Classic or dud?

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haven't thought about this guy for a while. i think he was popular in the 80s?

Overrated

I think he'd make really great hog slurry. You can really tell a lot about a man by the way his pureed corpus fills a trough.

red means 'run, son. numbers add up to nothin'
. . .
shelter me from the putin and the banker
i bankrupted casinos. who the fuck does that?

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#daddy

#dilfsinjocks

wasting his finite reserves of energy there

Cronenbergian

Like a hastily-assembled meat collage.

hard to tell who is more obsessed with him the right or the left.

also the media love/hate thing is so cute. get a room you two.

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“I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid. Huckabee copied me.”

He is only as wicked and hellspawned as the hatred and resentment simmering in the heartland of the most violent nation ever

I think you might need to look into a thing called history if you think this is the most violent nation ever.

you suggest Panama?

the 1997 NYer profile of Trump is start-to-finish amazing but if I had to pick a favorite part it's this https://t.co/reqFZ79eZd pic.twitter.com/Qnwnuiyxqh

— Rosie Gray (@RosieGray) June 23, 2017

hard to tell who is more obsessed with him the right or the left.

libs/"centrists" for sure

it's sobering to realize that Trump is probably the most famous person in human history now

*not adjusted for population inflation

indicative of a deep flaw in our universe

truly he is king of the narcissist personality disorder sufferers

i think jesus still beats him out unless we're only counting contemporaneous fame

Michael Jackson sold a hundred million records

contemporaneous fame. MJ is up there but there are twice as many people on Earth now than there were in 1984.

Donlad Turmp sold a hundred million and one. Sad!

Part of my problem is that I have to do a lot of things myself. It takes so much time. Julio Iglesias is coming to Mar-a-Lago, but I have to call Julio, I have to have lunch with Julio. I have Pavarotti coming. Pavarotti doesn’t perform for anybody. He’s the highest-paid performer in the world. A million dollars a performance. The hardest guy to get. If I call him, he’ll do it—for a huge amount less. Why? Because they like me, they respect me, I don’t know.

I think you might need to look into a thing called history if you think this is the most violent nation ever.

idk Native American genocide plus slavery plus nuclear bomb-dropping... surely we're in the running

probably a million people killed by u.s. in vietnam/laos/cambodia. nobody will ever know how many. not pol pot numbers, but still...

mao would be the world champ though.

it's sobering to realize that Trump is probably the most famous person in human history now

this is a ridiculous statement

Man, if only Trump would tweet that he's bigger than Jesus...

well he's certainly fatter

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Of course, Chip Roy is in a gerrymandered, Hard R District In Central Texas, so he doesn't really need to run on anything.

Boebert says Trump isn’t sleeping, he’s praying but if he is sleeping, he looks pretty while he sleeps. pic.twitter.com/PHIxDOIm7b

— Acyn (@Acyn) May 17, 2024

it's not the brazenness of this that gets me it's the fact that anyone who actually believed this would basically be an insane person. its tough to see anyone debase themselves this hard even if it is Boebert

sounded like that was a good committee meeting

👀 At tonight’s House Oversight hearing, Marjorie Taylor Greene made a derogatory comment about Jasmine Crockett and “false eyelashes.” Then the committee erupted. AOC trashed MTG, demanded an apology (MTG refused); then demands for clarifications on whether personal attacks are… pic.twitter.com/o90T36DkBV

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) May 17, 2024

lol MTG probably knows nothing about her but she's one of the last members of Congress you'd want to mess with

holy shit

.@RepMTG: Are your feelings hurt?@AOC: Oh baby girl…don’t even play.

How it’s going in the House Oversight Committee pic.twitter.com/73RYvGhMVK

— Jay O'Brien (@jayobtv) May 17, 2024

"Oh Baby Girl... Don't Even Play" for June Thread Title.

Full exchange

This video lays out what happened in tonight’s heated exchange in the oversight hearing pic.twitter.com/7QTmpsa1eA

— Acyn (@Acyn) May 17, 2024

this might just be wishful thinking but I feel that acting like total psychos in order to appease a convicted felon (probably) who's also been found liable for sexual assault is gonna hurt them in the end. like having a bunch of them fly to NY just to "support" Trump so Dems can yell AREN'T YOU SUPPOSED TO BE DOING YOUR TAXPAYER FUNDED JOBS in a Congressional session is such a bad look. I genuinely think most Republican voters don't actually like this shit and vote Trump mostly because he's mean/racist and they hate the idea of people "getting free stuff". they aren't exactly pisspigs for Donald Trump, they'll be glad when he's out of the picture (as a lot of us will be for Biden). this stuff is embarrassing and I think it does turn a lot of not-particularly-engaged people off. don't forget most of the Trumpiest candidates lost in 2022, hell Lauren Boebert nearly lost an R+30 district to some guy nobody's ever heard of. the sexpest stuff cost them a Senate seat in ALABAMA a while back. every time Trump appears on the national stage his numbers go down. people aren't really going to his rallies and they sure as hell aren't showing up to support him in court. they really really need to find a way to keep MTG out of the news but they have no actual ideas whatsoever so good luck with that

Cohen did not do well on cross yesterday. I have no idea whether this is just a blip, but they are relying on him to tie all the other evidence together and he may have just untied it.

A befuddled Comer replied: “What now?”

He’s a massive piece of shit and deserves every moment of this.

Someone please re-share the video of the guy doing an angry impression of his Porky Pig ass voice when he was being cross-examined by Comer.

idk from what I've read Cohen didn't exactly bust open any part of the case, the defense just spent hours running in circles to call him a sleazy liar who's out to get Trump (just like everybody else), not sure how great a strategy that is when Trump is the one who hired him and was paying him lots of money

it sounded like Blanche was doing a poor job, like bringing up insults Cohen had posted about him doesn't do anything productive. It has already been established that Cohen is a dickhead. Apparently his best moment was to cast doubt over Cohen's memory of a phone call with Trump or something, which doesn't seem much when there are the calls Cohen recorded in evidence backing up his version of events.

Cohen is an awful person, but I can't see how the jury could ever come to the conclusion that Trump didn't know about the Stormy Daniels payoff and wasn't across how Cohen was being reimbursed.

I mean I don't think the prosecutions case rests solely on Cohen's memory of a phone call he had 8 years ago

Why couldn’t they get an honest and upstanding guy on the stand to testify about his years of doing crimes for Trump?

what is he doing

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like Biden didn't accept a debate on Fox, in fact I kinda doubt Fox accepted it either, I feel like he just made this all up

Cohen is an awful person, but I can't see how the jury could ever come to the conclusion that Trump didn't know about the Stormy Daniels payoff and wasn't across how Cohen was being reimbursed.

I think the challenge for the prosecution is that they have to satisfy the jury that, not only did Trump know about it, but that he authorized it with the intent to keep it from the voting public in order not to hurt his chances at getting elected.

I agree that Biden’s 4 album run of Crippling Inflation, High Gas Prices, Crime in our Streets, and Border Chaos were devastatingly heavy

Virginua State University, or another venue

'I have accepted a ninth debate invitation on ESPN, which will be broadcast live from Saratoga Golf Club! We'll see how good of a putter Crooked Joe really is...'

I mean *why* he did it is kind of immaterial here, like even if he was primarily thinking of his family (lol) there's no way he wasn't also thinking of his election chances

It's actually not immaterial at all, it goes directly to the question of criminal intent.

sure but there are several legitimate reasons he wouldn't want that story to get out

idk I just think the idea is absurd that the prosecution would build a case against a former president (and current nominee) that would all be unraveled if Michael Cohen, a lawyer so sleazy and dishonest that he became Donald Trump's right hand man, forgot some detail from 8 years ago. I mean the dude was being cross-examined for hours by a lawyer who was by all accounts flailing around in order to paint him as a liar, even if he did discover something that could be a real sticking point chances are the jury are just gonna forget about it over the long weekend. I think CNN is being stupid about this, like are we really ignoring the piles and piles of evidence they already have

Thankfully, CNN isn't on the jury (afaik)

One of the things i remember about the OJ trial is that one of the jurors was asked something like ‘why did it only take an hour to deliberate’ and they said something to the effect of ‘we were in that courtroom for 6 months we knew everything all we had to do is vote.’ They’ve heard from a bunch of people besides cohen already all that evidence is banked. It’s just whether they agree with the DA’s case or not

there's plenty of documentation about the alleged payoff, they essentially just needed Cohen to corroborate what went down

I guess it's not even 'alleged' anymore lol

Interesting how the evangelicals will absorb this.. we're at the stage now where they could present crystal-clear evidence of Trump sleeping with a 13 year old and it would be like 'Yeah, well Biden has done way worse!'

Nobody cares anymore

They either don't believe it or don't give a shit.

i can only imagine it as “there’s bigger truths in this thing. the lord isn’t blessing trump’s behavior, he is using him to give blessings to us. trump is just an instrument. The lord is like that— dumb as fuck and hypocritical. And mysterious, super mysterious.”

I’ve given up trying to figure the knots evangelicals tie their brains into to justify Trump. They’ve determined Democrats are Satan’s minions (abortion, gay marriage, communism, war on Christmas, whatever) and so Trump is their guy, end of discussion.

New York magazine has an article by Olivia Nuzzi, the only reporter more devoted to her subject than Maggie Haberman. It contains this paragraph:

Just as it was strangely true that each successive indictment seemed to make Trump a stronger candidate in the Republican primary, it is also the case that the trial is making him a better performer on the trail. At after-court stops and onstage at rallies, he has become a kind of SuperTrump, a monstrously turbocharged version of the original model. Quicker and noticeably happier. He even smiles.

I mean...this is demonstrably not true! There's video of his appearances! He looks like shit! He looks depressed! At his rallies he can barely get from one end of a sentence to the next without a series of rhetorical pratfalls that suggest multiple mini-strokes. I mean, what the fuck is this woman talking about?

has any human being ever embodied all 7 deadly sins more

there's plenty of documentation about the alleged payoff, they essentially just needed Cohen to corroborate what went down

the "affair" (which may have actually been rape) happened 10 years before the payoff, seems pretty obvious this was because of the election

has any human being ever embodied all 7 deadly sins more

I feel like he just made this all up

When Donald says he has agreed to all these debates he means that he has agreed with himself that he thinks these debates would be good to have, not that anyone else has agreed to participate in them.

watching some clips of this rally he's doing tonight, he's really rambly and mean and I'm kind of curious if the whole rally is shit like that or if people are just cherrypicking the crazy parts. like are we really living in a country where one of the two candidates for President is a guy whose campaign events are just rambling about electric cars for some reason until everyone leaves

Bad reviews, going to have to do his back to basics campaign next time

There's surely the social aspect of the rallies, where the crowd are bound together by aesthetic and camaraderie. But people say this about bands that appear to be well past their sell by date but draw bigger crowds than they ever did when they were considered to be good, does it really matter to people all that much?

O when a restaurant or cafe changes hands and the quality goes downhill a bit, but there's a lag time before it shows up in the reviews. And even then how much of it is the restaurant changing hands and how much of it is people finding out the restaurant changed hands and recalibrating their opinion based on that.

wtf, surely he didn't speak for 12 hours?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fH6Qv9ZqII

Its a loop

Guy puts on sunglasses at 31 mins and removes them 6 minutes later. Same thing happens again at 1:58 and 3:25

like a white noise machine for boomers with insomnia

oh phew - I only scrolled to a couple of points and it got darker/later in the day

like are we really living in a country where one of the two candidates for President is a guy whose campaign events are just rambling about electric cars for some reason until everyone leaves

― frogbs, Friday, May 17, 2024 9:29 PM bookmarkflaglink

The content doesn't matter, it's a show of strength and brand recognitions that helps people construct their desired consensus reality.

Have been. We are nearly in Jean Beaudrillard's hyperreality, where the strength of the signifier is more important to many people than what the signifier actually stands for, or whether it stands for anything at all.

It's encouraging that people still have a sense of "wtf" about it.

I think this has likely always been the case, that the label carries more weight than the labelled (and there are valid reasons why this might be the case too), though I think they are still think the label is tethered and not completely free-flowing and detached it just has a lot more room to grow and move than we might previously have thought (though I think it might be that the postwar period is the anomaly not the current period)

I think this applies to all groups of people to an extent, not just Trumpists - and brings in to play things like group dynamics, pattern recognition, social cues