We got Ant-Man and the Wasp movie

Continuing the tradition. Some details:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/michelle-pfeiffer-will-play-janet-van-dyne-in-ant-man-a-1797164194

And besides Pfeiffer as Janet Van Dyne:

Laurence Fishburne as Dr. Bill Foster, a.k.a. Giant Man
Hannah John-Kamen as Ghost
Randall Park as Agent Jimmy Woo
Walton Goggins as Sonny Burch

And a little late, a poster.

Official Ant-Man & the Wasp @Comic_Con poster I had the pleasure of painting! Or should I say Giant-Man & Wasp!! #PaulRudd @EvangelineLilly pic.twitter.com/HUmhqWTt4Q

— Andy Park-SDCC (@andyparkart) July 23, 2017

have michelle pfeiffer and michael douglas ever worked together before?

still can't help hearing the title of this in my head to the tune of 'benny and the jets'

We got Wasp in suit.

I am honoured to be on set today playing #TheWasp on what would be Jack Kirby's 100th birthday.
.#ThankYouJackKirby #AntManAndTheWasp pic.twitter.com/EBsV8jTK34

— Evangeline Lilly (@EvangelineLilly) August 28, 2017

Where are the antennas?

Presumably on the helmet that she doesn't have on.

And here they are, albeit a "high-tech" reinterpretation of the antennae:

Evangeline Lilly is hard at work on #AntManandtheWasp! https://t.co/FoYDkcP44C

— JustJared.com (@JustJared) September 21, 2017

full face mask is unfortunate

We got Ant-man and the Wasp synopsis (basically, nothing beyond the obvious is mentioned)

From the Marvel Cinematic Universe comes Ant-Man and The Wasp, a new chapter featuring heroes with the astonishing ability to shrink. In the aftermath of Captain America: Civil War, Scott Lang grapples with the consequences of his choices as both a super hero and a father. As he struggles to rebalance his life with his responsibilities as Ant-Man, he’s confronted by Hope van Dyne and Dr. Hank Pym with an urgent new mission. Scott must once again put on the suit and learn to fight alongside the Wasp as the team works together to uncover secrets from the past.

And photo:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--vI8IP9CZ--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/loag9fnicjahmwgztloa.jpg

cute comic fails to register with more verisimilitude demanding contempo watchers

We got Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_rTIAOohas

looks fun

i'm a sucker for those smallthingbig / bigthingsmall gags

Well, friend, let me tell you about a 'little' movie called Downsizing!

please don't

Personally I'm just amused by whoever figured out it would be a great idea to adapt Marco Pirroni's guitar line from "Ants Invasion" for the trailer music.

the gigolo aunts, warrant and newly-solo uk hip-hop superstar ant mcpartlin are all contributing to the soundtrack iirc

sadly w.a.s.p were unable to commit due to scheduling conflicts

Be funny if the entire score were Adam Ant Burundi drums.

Anyway, looks pretty forgettable, can't imagine too many will be excited the way Black Panther has people excited.

Kinda weird thinking that this is the movie after the first Infinity War one, because it sure lowers the stakes a bit. Unless it's meant to be just post-Civil War per the reused trailer bit.

They should retcon all 300 Marvel movies and reveal that lil' Ant Man has been in all of them, messing around in the margins. Then they could do the movie equivalent of a clip show, and be all, remember this? Little did you know ... And then zoom in on Ant-man messing around.

And that movie should be 20 minutes long, and have Samuel L. Jackson as a host, and it should be a TV special.

New trailer, still looking good. I will always take all the Michael Pena I can get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUkn-enk2RU

I'm calling introduction of the Microverse, y'all (absent any evidence I'm aware of).

as i said in the infinity war thread, this is def gonna end with one of the title characters disappearing along with half of the population of the universe, isn't it

oooof @ the very labored "comparing sizes" joke

So you may not be on board with this particular MCU entry is what you're saying.

We got Ant-Man and the Wasp cast list. Important Tim Heidecker and Scharpling and Wurster content:

#AntManAndTheWasp cast list pic.twitter.com/fLEYYuQvld

— Stitch Kingdom (@stitchkingdom) June 20, 2018

"Tim Heidecker Destroys The Marvel Universe" ...They should give him Hembeck knees.

YES

I am so proud that I get that reference

Tim being in this* is part of the On Cinema At The Cinema / Oscar Specials / Decker / Decker vs Dracula / The Trial Of Tim Heidecker / Our Cinema ongoing plotline, if anyone wants to catch up on 232 episodes of backstory before this comes out.

*and Gregg Turkington being in the first

not counting 70-odd podcast episodes before the TV shows started

Responses to that tweet suggest that Scharpling & Wurster wound up on the cutting room floor. :((((

This is a crime.

Scharpling was cut from the first film and has been giving Reed the business about it off and on ever since (they have been friends for a very long time). Scharpling said he got cut from and the Wasp on Tuesday's episode of the Best Show; a long con (by Reed, Scharpling, or both) is not out of the question.

are technical credits a contractual mandate or a courtesy? Could you credit somebody for something they did not do?

I really liked this - it was so light and breezy and small(no pun intended)-scale. Such a contrast to...most other Marvel films.

Just out of it myself, enjoyed it a lot. Was worried all the jokes were in the trailer but I needn't have worried. Weirdly though most of the action sequences are in the trailer.

The sheer amount of de-aging was a bit wearisome.

Two post credits scenes for those who can't be arsed sitting through pages of names. Second one inessential imo and you could happily leave after the first which is MCU ESSENTIAL.

Was worried all the jokes were in the trailer but I needn't have worried.

Ya, me too. If anything, the "comparing sizes" joke is the worst in the movie so i'm glad they got it out of the way in the trailer.

The sheer amount of de-aging was a bit wearisome.

Was joking that Paul Rudd is the only character where they'd never need to pull off any of that crap with since he's looked pretty much the same for the past 20 years.

I actually liked the way it was barely even delivered in the film, just thrown out as another line of dialogue.

Michael Douglas de-aging was very bad I thought.

this was a lot of fun. enjoyed the jarring tonal shift in the first post-credit though.

my friend, who was already devastated by Infinity War, started hitting her reclining chair and yelling "I'M DONE!" in the theatre

Friend: I liked it, it was really light and enjoyable.
Her teen son: this was the worst Marvel movie since Dr. Strange.

This was pretty much a throwaway movie but it was fun and I’m glad Ghost had a clear and understandable motivation, although I’m also a little tired of SPOILER SPOILER MINOR SPOILER all of the black government agents going rogue

Isn't that in every Hollywood film ever though? "I got a guy in the inside." <cuts to guy looking shifty in PD or Quantico or wherever>

I think you missed an adjective in DJP’s post

just hoping my man Walton Goggins got something / anything to do tbh

Btw I saw the last Maze Runner movie on the airplane and what a total waste of Walton Goggins that was

Well, waste of many things and people generally, but him in particular

I didn't even know I wanted Walter Goggins and Michael Peña on screen together but now I'm so glad I got it. David Dalmatchian and T.I. should get their own Netflix Marvel Universe show.

Oops yes xpost soz Dan I get yr point now.

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP (Reed): unexpectedly contains the best use of "Every Day is Like Sunday" in cinema history.

— Adam Nayman (@brofromanother) July 9, 2018

I didn't even know I wanted Walter Goggins and Michael Peña on screen together but now I'm so glad I got it. this is basically the whole third season of the shield

SPOILERS!

I thought this was enjoyable, and I really liked how low the stakes were compared to the previous few Marvel movies. The main conflict rose from both sides wanting to the save the life of a single person, no world-dominating schemes needed here.

That said, TAMatW still suffered from the "undeveloped villains" syndrome that's been an issues with most of these movies not featuring Loki. Like, we never even learned why Bill Foster was so willing to risk everything to help Ghost, and what exactly was their relationship. It seemed like he was supposed to be her foster dad, but then the whole "raised by SHIELD to become a perfect assassin" didn't really jibe with that; if he was so protective of Ghost, why would Foster allow them to do that to her? They should've just scrapped the mostly pointless secondary villain (the black market guy) and used the screentime to flesh out Ghost and Foster more. Both actors felt capable of doing more with their characters, but there was so little material given to them.

Another thing I thought was great was how the conventional final super-powered brawl was replaced by super-powered chase scene... Since the powers of both the protagonists and the villains are not in their fists or weapons but in their manipulation of space, a finale like that made a lot of sense.

That said, the physics of shrinking/growing were even more ridiculous than in the previous movie. Besides the inconsistency of some shrunk objects retaining their original mass when others didn't (which was already there in Ant-Man), there were things like the lab remaining in perfect condition even though the building it was in was tossed around like a football. And when they shrank and regrew those houses in random spots, how does the plumbing and electricity work in them? But that's just the stuff you gotta roll with if you wanna enjoy all the size-change gags, and there were plenty of good ones here.

gonna be sitting through this tonight (movie night at daughter's school)

it’s fine

extremely adequate imo

Was kinda underwhelmed by Infinity War so, er, looking forward to seeing this

This was a really fun time.

yeah this is one of the fun ones. shame about so many of the best bits being in the trailer.

Ant Man 2 was just sort of there. However, at the end, when Michelle Pfeiffer pops up (I wish it was a surprise, and that she wasn't in the first five minutes), I turned to my kids and said, hey, you know in Uptown Funk when they say "Michelle Pfeiffer, that white gold?" That's Michelle Pfeiffer! But they didn't care. Or at least, really no more or less than they cared about the movie itself.

she did look like that white gold tho

shut UP, dad

[whispering to date while watching Chappie when Chappie first appears on the screen] That's Chappie

— vineyille (@vineyille) March 23, 2015

pyms are such dickheads in this

awful plot but yes small scale was welcome

i see what you did there

could've done without the awful ghost character (and awful actress tbh) and had goggins as the main bad guy

These movies have their flaws but are always a good time.

yeah thats fair

pena so so good

How was Ghost “awful”?

not gonna lie to you, its been a few hours and i already dont remember enough, but-

overwrought performance during the dramatic justification was imo out of kilter with movie

justification itself was hideously rushed and piecemeal and despite efforts to make her sympathetic i think they undercooked any efforts by having her so gung-ho to succubus pfeiffer with little to no reason to expect success

when offered efforts to attempt cure in a more reasonable way she said fuckit nah

yes i know traumatic childhood, trained for death, agonised existence, disappointed that fishburne pulled away from commitments (as noted above, the relationship/dynamic here really didnt get very far if in any way examined) but - and this is obv gonna be subjective- i dont think that worked even slightly in a movie where the closest thing it has to a saving grace was avoiding the grim-unto-death tone of most MCUs

nb british accent ah cmon

i could just about buy the science hokiness as a direct tribute to well comic book, rapid-exposition science hokiness

gonna try to not overthink it any more because fuckit i liked it

i liked the performance but agree that the character's got great material that goes undercooked, and the villainy hard to buy. i would've preferred the techno-anarchist Ghost from the comics but if they were gonna do this one, it needed a little more space to work (would have had to cut the goggins stuff prob) and then yeah you end up losing the zippy, silly tone.

fishburne did really well with the time and swerves he was given, otoh

good movie! Rudd is a great and likable superhero and Michael Pena is awesome. Evangeline Lilly is outstanding, i think some of my favorite bits involve her cackling at ant man as he shifts around in sizes. She also is completely believable when she's striding in and beating the hell out of people, like in that first scene w/Goggins and his crew. I liked Ghost tbh, the performance worked a lot w/r/t her past and insane trauma.

Pfeiffer seemed to be psychologically very sound considering her situation for the previous several decades...

what the fuck did she eat for all that time

unstable molecules

Broasted tardigrades.

Wishful thinking, but thought watching the first one (and not frame-by-frame pausing) that as he shrunk, he passed through a world with building structures. I was hoping that was an easter egg for Jarella's world, from the Hulk comics. Googled for Jarella "Ant-Man", but nothing came up. Would be cool to have a Hulk / Ant-Man buddy pic, maybe with some Micronauts thrown in.

lol at the idea that Marvel secured a non-exclusive holdback on film rights to Micronauts and held onto it for forty years through bankruptcy and line after line of non-Marvel Micronauts comics, waiting until they became a film production company, then film megastudio, just biding their time for the riiiiiiight moment to bust out a cameo in the third (!) hit (!!) Ant-Man movie

(like, not mocking you, a genuine cheerful amusement at the notion)

phase iv baby, built in the rock-solid foundations of the micronauts

hey if you told me a decade ago there'd be a third ant-man movie i'd have scoffed

Speaking of, the Micronauts series from IDW starting in 2016 is really good, as is the ROM: Space Knight series!