fairly common knowledge in recent years, but the specifics are kind of apocalyptic
http://gothamist.com/2017/09/13/sitting_binge_watching_death.php
https://academic.oup.com/biomedgerontology/article/4056501/The-Joint-Associations-of-Sedentary-Time-and
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 15:26 (seven years ago)
Have literally just purchased my first ever gym membership five minutes ago
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 15:40 (seven years ago)
Too much standing around!
https://theconversation.com/standing-too-much-at-work-can-double-your-risk-of-heart-disease-83629
Conclusion: spare 'life' the trouble, immediately die.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 15:42 (seven years ago)
as someone with a chronic illness, this really scares me, despite the fact i walk/run/exercise a decent amount and as much as i can. my sister is a pharmacist and works in public health, she's often explaining this to us.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 15:43 (seven years ago)
I guess we won't know the full damage until the first generation who've sat down a lot reach old age
― Cheds Baker (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 15:45 (seven years ago)
Someone who works at one of those standing up workstations told me, "sitting is the new smoking"
― Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 15:47 (seven years ago)
in that a certain kind of douche likes to cluck about it, maybe
― Cheds Baker (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 15:49 (seven years ago)
i've definitely seen people adopt standing workstations in recent times.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:01 (seven years ago)
Bought a standing desk last year after back disc problems meant I couldn't sit down without stressful aches for a week or so. Better to break up work day with exercise more if feasible tho.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:09 (seven years ago)
So it's not a big deal if you take breaks to walk around and also exercise daily? Cool. Because I really don't want to do the standing workstation thing, I'm in good shape but I don't think my knees could handle it.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:10 (seven years ago)
^agree
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:20 (seven years ago)
recently got a sitting/standing thing at work, probably do about 66% standing now, highly recommended.
― adam, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:46 (seven years ago)
every 30 min walkaroudn for 5 min
its that simple
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:52 (seven years ago)
harder if you fall into an ILX hole
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:52 (seven years ago)
i have a standing desk at work, after never having had one in over a decade of office drone work. i didn't get it specially ordered, i just started a new permanent job at the university i work in and my office space already had one. i alternate standing and sitting as i feel excessive standing is also bad (feet start to feel weird etc.). so i stand, like adam, probably somewhere like 66% of the time, sit the rest, and make sure to go get water once an hour from a water fountain that is about a 3 minute round trip. feels good for my back (i am tall with poor posture and have a sore lower-back often), can't speak to its effect on my long-term health obv
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:54 (seven years ago)
The threat of a hastened demise will probably never effectively curb my tendency toward sedentism but I'm sure my shockingly-rapid physical decline will lead to a futile deathbed conversion three months from now.
― Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 17:26 (seven years ago)
Just gonna assume my two-hour or so daily p fast/hard walk is something I should keep up and recommend. Makes binge-watching shows way more interesting, too.
― albvivertine, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:53 (seven years ago)
The ol' walk 'n watch eh?
― nashwan, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 22:28 (seven years ago)
Lol. Ppl probably do that tho :(
― albvivertine, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 22:48 (seven years ago)
this is why i gave up driving and haven't looked back. the first few months not owning a car sucked but turns out you can just walk places or take the bus, seamlessly integrating exercise and daily life.
also i try and do neck/shoulder yoga stretches at least once a week. we simply aren't meant to stare straight ahead for hours at a time.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 22:59 (seven years ago)
what's the deal with lying, i do a lot of lying
― imago, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 23:04 (seven years ago)
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:52 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
for a lot of people this would result in a conversation with the boss about "time spent wandering around and not doing your work" etc
― qualx, Thursday, 14 September 2017 04:38 (seven years ago)
Talked about this recently with my osteopath. She told me that the human body is not designed for sitting, that's why people suffer back problems from too much of it.
I have problems with the sides of my back, near the hip, which I believe is too much sitting (computer stuff). She told me to just make sure I walk around every half hour, stretches are also very good exercises for the body.
She told me how people she knew had installed the standing work stations and loved them. It's something I feel I need to make happen in the house.
Interesting point she made about people who have never sat down (jungle tribes etc). They are able to squat down with their whole feet flat on the ground (as opposed to when I try it and falling over backwards!)
I'm not sure about the 'legs turning to jelly' though, this sounds like an extreme case of never getting up ever.
― Ste, Thursday, 14 September 2017 09:37 (seven years ago)
Yes, people that don't do much sitting or sit on the floor (cobbler, say) apparently don't have any of these problems. Yoga is an answer but few have time to build a practice given what else we have to do (currently in the middle of figuring all this out)
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 September 2017 10:29 (seven years ago)
having a full-time job makes it almost impossible to be fit and healthy imo, unless your hobby is being fit and healthy. if you're trying to do another hobby at the same time, forget it.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 September 2017 10:48 (seven years ago)
We'll people with full-time jobs do some fitness related activity. Finding something you can do once a week every week surely isn't impossible.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 September 2017 10:51 (seven years ago)
Maybe try and have as active a commute as possible?
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2017 10:52 (seven years ago)
That wuz a xp
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2017 10:53 (seven years ago)
I have walked to work daily for a month or two before, though it's currently about 90 minutes rather than the hour it was before. I am a pretty avid walker. I guess for me I have chronic illness which means my ability to do strenuous physical activity varies. I can go six weeks where I'm running a few times a week, then six weeks where that's not possible.
In those times I do try to involve walking in my commute - eg I'll get a tube that leaves a 30-minute walk to my overground or something.
I tend to find if I do exercise on an evening it doesn't leave me full of energy to do writing or whatever my other hobby at a given time is. Prob as much the health stuff as full-time job, but I do feel fairly sure if I was off work for a few months it'd be much easier to have time/energy to do 10 times more stuff.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 September 2017 10:59 (seven years ago)
other thing I find is, I eat healthily when I am doing exercise, and vice versa. not that I eat wildly unhealthily if not, but just there's a general spiral of good habits or bad habits.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:00 (seven years ago)
a 90 minute walk is an ideal distance for a cycle imo but that's easy to say when i don't have to deal with london roads
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:10 (seven years ago)
yeah i kind of have a fear of cycling - i don't think i'd give it enough care and attention not to get lol killed
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:17 (seven years ago)
Don't think of footy as a hobby and anything on top of that I think of as a chore tbh
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:41 (seven years ago)
I'm really envious of people who are able to afford to choose to work part-time.
Full-time work is such an incredible drain on time and energy, and a general feeling of being cooped up for too long.
― Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:47 (seven years ago)
Lads
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:48 (seven years ago)
I like cycling but I'm almost sure it's been part of my back problem.
Swimming is the ultimate, but bloody hell the places around my area are pretty expensive. Also "chlorine" yuk. I'm so envious of people who live by the sea.
― Ste, Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:51 (seven years ago)
Difficult to get the tone right in my earlier post. I'm envious of the benefits of working part-time; I don't regard part-time workers as bourgeouis idlers.
― Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:52 (seven years ago)
I approve of idlers of all class backgrounds
― ogmor, Thursday, 14 September 2017 12:31 (seven years ago)
its not difficult if you live in a city to get exercise. every place i've lived in has been 20-30 minutes walking distance from the nearest grocery store. that's a solid hour there plus you are carrying bags on the way back. plus you get to listen to music and see what's up in your neighborhood.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:31 (seven years ago)
I have walked to work daily for a month or two before, though it's currently about 90 minutes rather than the hour it was before
imo this is too much! does this include taking busses or trains or is it just uninterrupted walking? anything over an hour is going to make an impact on your energy for the rest of the day
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:34 (seven years ago)
weird, in london you are never more than 30 seconds from a grocery store of some kind.
i do walk to the fishmonger most weekends tho, and a vegetable store beside it.
xpost i found an hour was fine. i've also ran 4/5 miles before work sometimes, in both cases i'd say the impact on my energy for the day was hugely positive, rather than negative
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:35 (seven years ago)
once when i had been biking maybe 3-4 times a week for a several-mile commute to work, when the winter got bad i just switched over to a bruneauesque walk rather than taking a bus. that was pretty rough on the body, i don't know how those dudes in news stories about poor saps who walked 10 miles to work every day before the internet bought them cars managed to stay on the job.
― j., Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:44 (seven years ago)
I have a sit/stand desk at work and a Fitbit to remind me to get up and walk every hour. I wish I had same setup at home. :-\
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:01 (seven years ago)