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this place needs its own thread. it's deeply beautiful. everyone should go there. unfortunately it's hard to move on the cheap as i'm now discovering. anyway it's insane, look at this:

http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/VFT/MoabFaultfromGBRrdno742-950w.jpg

map, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 02:37 (seven years ago)

went there once as a teenager en route to Zion and Arches. awesome place to camp out.

piper at the gates of d'awwww (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 02:50 (seven years ago)

I got honked at when walking on the sidewalk in Moab. Turned out it was just another longhair doing a longhair solidarity honk I guess? It was brighter than the sun that day so I may have dreamed the whole encounter.

I_Got_Loaded, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 02:58 (seven years ago)

I have been many times, with many different people, along with New Orleans my favorite place in the USA. I've had some great Mexican food there too.

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 05:48 (seven years ago)

I had ok Mexican food there last year, then the next morning set off for overnight backpacking trip in Canyonlands. Puked my goddamm brains out by time we made it to campsite due to food poisoning.
They had a good local version of The Onion newspaper (free at this hipstery coffee/breakfast place) that fooled me into thinking it was real.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 08:42 (seven years ago)

I got honked at when walking on the sidewalk in Moab. Turned out it was just another longhair doing a longhair solidarity honk I guess? It was brighter than the sun that day so I may have dreamed the whole encounter.

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War, Famine, Pestilence, Death, Umami (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 09:57 (seven years ago)

Place is fun, been a regular visitor since 91, the vibe has changed pretty radically since then and even more since big uranium i guess (i heard stories of geo engineers and attys flying over the area by plane and literally throwing markers to stake claims).

Finally rode white rim in November, strong recommend for a late year multi day jeep or mtb trip. Photo from top of Shafer drop is in my office now. https://instagram.com/p/Bfbe9fGF98n/

Heading back to ride Kokopelli in August, gonna be an inferno.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)

Hasn't "big uranium" been around there since the 50s?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)

Is that ur pix xp

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:32 (seven years ago)

Lol yeah i took it with my phone on my bike. Not pro but memorable so i just made it

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:35 (seven years ago)

My understanding is the interests are very much still there, but i’m not sure what % of economy is still in there- maybe i could better term 50s-80s era is not so much ‘big uranium’ as ‘only uranium’? I should educate myself more there.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:41 (seven years ago)

In the 1950s Moab became the so-called "Uranium Capital of the World" after geologist Charles Steen found a rich deposit of uranium ore south of the city.[9] This discovery coincided with the advent of the era of nuclear weapons and nuclear power in the United States, and Moab's boom years began.
The city population grew nearly 500% over the next few years, bringing the population to near 6,000 people. The explosion in population caused much construction of houses and schools. Charles Steen donated a great deal of money and land to create new houses and churches in Moab.[18]
With the winding down of the Cold War, Moab's uranium boom was over, and the city's population drastically declined. By the early 1980s a number of homes stood empty, and nearly all of the uranium mines had closed.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:49 (seven years ago)

have been through here once, it looked cool. would love to go back and spend actual time

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:50 (seven years ago)

The climate strikes me as a bit odd: same elevation as where I live, but it's a couplefew hundred miles to the north. Just about identical summertime highs but it's winter highs are 15 degrees cooler than by me. I guess partly cause it's even drier there? idk

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:52 (seven years ago)

another incredible view from the side of White Rim. you had to go about 30 yards off the jeep road to even notice this one, i think my two pals missed this one altogether! we rode it in one day, camping at the top of mineral drop, and rode the loop. i did it that way as bucket list item, but not that i've done it, i want to go back and do a multi day jeep supported trip down there, it's amazing. here's another view from White Rim, i think about 30 miles into the 100 mile loop.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbI6vRSFM8k/

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:01 (seven years ago)

"now that i've done it"

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:03 (seven years ago)

cool pics!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:08 (seven years ago)

that one reminds me of camping spot we had in Islands in the Sky. Hiked about a mile from Murphy Point parking lot, found this lil ledge 15 feet below the main rim that was just big enough to set up camp.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:10 (seven years ago)

That would be great! I was looking at pics from this guy whose instagram is super fascinating https://www.instagram.com/rlngstrt- one of his views from Island in the Sky makes it a must visit for me soon.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

the desert gets cold at night, i think it's the dry air and the ground surface - no heat absorption.

arches is usually too crowded for me but canyonlands is magic. the scale of it is awesome. i'm much more into a big area with a lot of dynamics than like single rock formation destinations, although arches is pretty big and dynamic too tbf. thinking a lot about uplift and water erosion, how those systems must interact to make it all happen.

there's definitely still a lot of mining interest in the area but my anecdotal impression is that tourism is a much bigger boon than it used to be and that a fair amount of the local population is anti-mining.

one thing i don't get and find kind of annoying is the big 4x4 events there. looking up at these stupid people in their stupid jeeps on some 45 degree pitch. really you can't think of a better way to experience the insane land here than in a fucking car, ugh.

i put a deposit down on a basement apt there this weekend, moving in a month. so excited.

map, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 18:57 (seven years ago)

my favorite thing to do there and the reason i'm moving is to run on the mountain bike trails, especially over rock.

map, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)

cool man, good luck!

I agree wrt Jeeps. Seems to be a lot of them are midwesterners coming for those events who have little to no respect for how fragile desert ecosystems are.
Ya cold at nights/mornings cause there's no clouds or even dense moist air to retain the heat. I can feel the temp drop the instant the sun goes down.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:25 (seven years ago)

thanks

map, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:26 (seven years ago)

It's funny cause I'm a hiker, don't mountain bike, and I can get a bit perturbed by some bikers' attitudes to the land. Treat it like an amusement park rather than an ecosystem etc. But overall mtn bike community is really cool and respectful .

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:33 (seven years ago)

it's an unbelievable place to ride and hike...so jealous

Milking the Soft Power Dividend (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)

There was pretty heated battle between mtn bikers and forest service/hikers here in Sedona in the last 15 years or so. Mtn bikers starting illegal/unsanctioned trails w/no regard to erosion and other issues. But they had a kumbaya relational shift in last few years, working together, compromising.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:36 (seven years ago)

yeah mountain bikers can be a little bro-y but in general they're pretty eco conscious ime

map, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)

I shed a tear when I see crisscross bike tracks all thru an offtrail cryptobiotic soil area but yes I'd agree

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)

there's an amusement park aspect to running on rock too, it's kind of like dancing. i'm not really into distance running, more 6-7 miles on a trail with some power, speed and grace. there are very few somewhat developed places in the world with the kind of terrain that moab has. also really into hiking and camping too of course.

the soil build-up is so important, but there are so many other large-scale human intrusions on the ecosystem i can't really get too worked up about it -- like the giant potash mine below dead horse point or the constant sound of planes in the flyover corridor above - that kind of noise has a huge impact on a desert ecosystem.

map, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)

i'm really curious about making it down further south to bears ears national monument at some point to get a feel for how that's shaping up.

map, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)

there's so much around Moab to explore. even a Rocky Mtn town like Telluride is only lil over 2 hrs away iirc.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 20:03 (seven years ago)

Gravity ride culture is generaly bro ey as hell afaict and...thats just not how i ride. (tbc all kinds of riding can be destructive and broey tho).

I have been spending some time looking at the stuff SUWA wilderness group sent me- they seem very cool.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 20:23 (seven years ago)

agreed, would like to connect with those people

map, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 02:33 (seven years ago)

canyonlands is my fav of the desert national parks. so remote

ciderpress, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 02:57 (seven years ago)

you have to do an 8 hour 4x4 trek to even get to the maze. i've heard the easiest way to get to that part of the park is a boat taxi and then a hike up to the dollhouse.

map, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 03:54 (seven years ago)

map how does Moab compare to/differ from similar canyony places in the midwest/southwest?

map when I come visit you in Moab can we go camping or is it too cold?

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 04:10 (seven years ago)

moab is friendlier and more salt-of-the-earth than most western tourist towns i've been to, but it doesn't feel backwards or claustrophobic like ranching / mining towns that are trying to hold on.

steve it should be fine april - october at least so if you're planning on visiting in those months then of course we're camping.

map, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 04:21 (seven years ago)

four weeks pass...

i made it. omg spring here is sooooooooo beautiful

you bet, nancy (map), Thursday, 26 April 2018 02:59 (seven years ago)

holy shit! that's great! you probably picked a good time of year to arrive. i've only been to moab a couple times, as a stop on the way to the deserts and slot canyons in southeast UT. both were incredible experiences and i was so jealous of everyone who lived around there. someday i hope to make it out west.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 April 2018 03:21 (seven years ago)

stay safe and gl

Hunt3r, Thursday, 26 April 2018 04:03 (seven years ago)

thanks my dudes.

you bet, nancy (map), Thursday, 26 April 2018 04:28 (seven years ago)

Moab, UT more like Moa bUT

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:26 (seven years ago)

LOL

you bet, nancy (map), Monday, 30 April 2018 04:20 (seven years ago)

this weekend main street was overrun by car show people (definitely not my bag). weird to see the main drag backed up for miles this morning with those folks leaving while just a few blocks west it's the usual sleepy small town barely-there traffic.

i can't get over how you can just walk out your front door and breathe extremely clean, delicious air. fills me with glee.

you bet, nancy (map), Monday, 30 April 2018 04:31 (seven years ago)

I love how the La Sals got their name.
Ha I even love when there's nearby wildfires...everything smells like a campfire. Unless the smell lasts for days, then it gets to be too much.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 30 April 2018 17:06 (seven years ago)

wikipedia has a great photo of the la sals from gemini bridges road. i love running in that area on the magnificent 7 trails.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/LaSalMountains.jpg

the cottonwoods are going wild right now and the air is very sweet-smelling.

you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 04:18 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

never been more grateful for thai food becoming popular in middle america 15 years ago, because there are two (!) thai restaurants here and one is actually pretty good.

you bet, nancy (map), Thursday, 17 May 2018 00:17 (seven years ago)

👍. Pretty soon itll get HOT. Where are u from?

Hunt3r, Thursday, 17 May 2018 02:15 (seven years ago)

Dry heat tho, outta the sun its no prob really.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 17 May 2018 02:16 (seven years ago)

this said, my first post cancer bikepack in april will be to visit the san rafael swell area for a quick overnight. i wanna see some petroglyphs and canyon rock

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 00:44 (three years ago)

ten months pass...

Here for the weekend. It abides. Cold but not freezing and no snow anywhere below 5500 feet. Deep fresh air giving me a detox from salt lake. The air thing is such a big deal for me I always talk to my boyfriend about living here again, or at least grand junction, which I hear is more affordable than anywhere else in Colorado.

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 4 December 2022 03:46 (three years ago)

Hunter if you see this how was your april trip?

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 4 December 2022 03:47 (three years ago)

fuckin rad, san rafael is cool space. objective achieved. my little escapade got wonderfully friended/transformed into a 6 person rodeo posse.

and weirdly, we were pretty far in the back of beyond near the end of day one and we went through an uncommon and random campsite near muddy creek (which campsite looked v grand, with sand bocce going and kiddos and dogs around). days later after the trip, i got pinged by a close pal from grand junction who asked me "how was your outing over the wknd, i saw you and your crew buzz by our camp/bocce setup? i couldn't yell to you in time." damn, you think you got away from everything, but nope. wish i'd seen him and stopped tho.

still, that buddy of mine knows that space well, and he noted that the increase in traffic at san rafael generally is p significant, lots of bikepacking and hiking. at our trailhead post-ride we met two separate sprinter van couples from outide of usa (uk and germany). both were bikepacking extensively in the rockies and further west.

the pack route we took was the standard one you can find in bikepacking.com, nothing novel. scenic.

(advisory-- if you find muddy crk tranquil and filterable, filter and store it immediately. creek can mysteriously become turbid and unfilterable while youre not looking, and it can wreck your breakfast and your hydration).

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Sunday, 4 December 2022 05:15 (three years ago)

oh and also since my jan post i've read _west of the 100th meridian_, by stegner. it's basically about the great basin, j. wesley powell, and the region's exploration by euroculture and the mess and destruction we cannot stop making in and around it. generally recommended if that's your kind of thing. cool to consider in relation to like, _cadillac desert_. or abbey.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Sunday, 4 December 2022 05:20 (three years ago)

the swell is no longer a secret i guess. it's been a few years since i've been anywhere deeper than the reef, not a soul to be seen at the time but it's probably a little different now. i have a friend who is a super outdoor adventure guy, also very kind and very gay, who rafted the muddy a few years ago, i think he said they saw a handful of people the whole trip.

i've been having a long running conversation with my partner about why we love the utah desert. it's generally the quiet, the visible time, and the clean air, tho i have fun on my short little trail runs (shuffles really). my partner takes photos of small plants, leaves, sand eddies, that kind of thing. occasionally we hit the mtn bike trails because they're good running. my partner drifts off trail because he doesn't like the bikers. i have to concur generally, i've certainly met good souls who are bikers but more often than not whenever they pass me there's a lot of nervous energy on display... people are fuckin loud out there for no good reason.. also packs of men with something to prove to each other and male gear acquisition bonding rituals to engage in. it's fucking tedious. i don't want to hear anything human when i'm out there except for the sound of my breath and nervous system. anyway, rant over.

it was quiet this weekend. moab was pretty dead. the winter dark at night and the quiet have such a depth to them.

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 02:48 (three years ago)

ayup, i hope u can keep finding peace.

i def understand the disruption u feel, i fear we may be rowdy enough to annoy. fwiw none of my set are gravity types who yip or yowl “spontaneously.”

i rode the lake city alpine 50 this year in CO, and i’ll say this— several circles of hell are navigated almost entirely by RZRs, and they’re now overspilling into the rockies/grt basin in astonishing abundance.

i try to stop and remember that slickrock was “founded” by throttle twisters and then just think about serenity and shit.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 03:40 (three years ago)

ha here was day one of the swell, good sense of the space
https://www.relive.cc/view/vPOpZ1NyrRq

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Saturday, 10 December 2022 16:51 (three years ago)

one month passes...

mlk weekend scene report

a few out-of-towners for the holiday weekend but mostly empty. snow level at about 5000 feet, snow free in the valley and blessedly snow free at klondike bluffs when we stopped in on saturday. the entire desert south of price was blanketed in snow, almost all the way to green river. i've never seen that before. looks like tons of snow in the san rafael swell. it's going to be an explosive spring. boyfriend noticed a lovely little plant with large flower stalk at klondike, ided it as winged buckwheat.

we've been down 3x per year over the past 3 years. still dream about owning a piece of land with a cottage or trailer on it in the area. have this idea that it should be in thompson springs.

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 02:45 (two years ago)

Dream it do it.

And yeah the Lower Green and Jordan and Weber basins are all 200%+ and are just getting hammered over and over. My friend in the Wasatch is already wore out by snow.

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 03:21 (two years ago)

eleven months pass...

down for another mlk weekend! this trip was so so good. i went with an incredibly beautiful boy who i love. we hiked horseshoe canyon to the great gallery. the art was overwhelmingly sublime. that canyon is glorious. no one else the entire time.

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 16:31 (one year ago)

nice and so appealing. front range is tucked under that below 0°F zone and i’m like dreaming of even 40° desert skies.

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 16:35 (one year ago)

a grand cottonwood and me

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kjWnV6xpyOIEtGS83wsmCZrQ0tsY0lNd/view?usp=drive_link

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 16:57 (one year ago)

nine months pass...

i'm going on a road trip to cortez, co with my fellas at the end of the month. planning on checking out canyons of the ancients, mesa verda, hovenweep, etc. we're staying in this amazing craftsman farmhouse airbnb. kind of my dream kitchen tbh:

https://a0.muscache.com/im/pictures/hosting/Hosting-48382676/original/c31807b4-0f82-4772-9ed9-30215ae9955b.jpeg

view from the back porch

https://a0.muscache.com/im/pictures/513dab7a-170b-48e4-9e27-4ef3d68885bb.jpg

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 21 October 2024 18:41 (one year ago)

OMFG.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 21 October 2024 19:09 (one year ago)

haha right?!

the owners are a local family from the area who are apparently very christian. i hope they don't mind a whole lotta gay sex in their house :]. though we aren't planning on leaving any evidence behind hehe.

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 21 October 2024 19:13 (one year ago)

*weeks later* "Hey! Seems like one of the guests we had left us a review saying they appreciated the pamphlet we left out about being your brother's keeper." "Well that's nice of them!"

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 October 2024 19:32 (one year ago)

hahaha!!

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 21 October 2024 19:33 (one year ago)

"They also said they liked your needlepoint about 'thy rod and thy staff,' that is a strong verse from the good book."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 October 2024 19:34 (one year ago)

🧐

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Bible-say-about-wearing-leather

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 21 October 2024 19:38 (one year ago)

I abandoned this thread and the entire internet on seeing those photos. Looks amazing. Enjoy!

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 22 October 2024 16:18 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

haha thanks - we did. the place was as amazing as it looks in the photos. the view even more insane tbh. half a mile from a gorgeous and rugged trail into canyons of the ancients nm. ute mountain silhouetted against a golden field like a western andrew wyeth painting.

he/him hoo-hah (map), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 20:57 (one year ago)

one month passes...

i've been here since 2 days ago, leaving monday. i had an amazing 4 hours out on amasa back yesterday and a shorter recovery run at bar m today. this trip has been special for a few reasons. my running has been stronger than it has been in awhile. i have this new meditative spiritual practice, a relationship to the nameless. and i'm desperately in love with someone who's far away but closer than ever. yesterday was about insane elation and joy. today was about paying respects to pain. i'm lighting a fire out past kane creek tonight and spending some time under the stars.

he/him hoo-hah (map), Saturday, 7 December 2024 23:41 (one year ago)

two months pass...

aw it's nice to read about that last trip. i'm here again. today was just perfect. too much to say.

spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Sunday, 23 February 2025 03:11 (nine months ago)

but why not? it took me 3 hours this morning to finally decide where to go. a big field of broken white sandstone on google maps i've never been to. it was even better than i imagined, little mini-knolls knee to chest high, free running bliss two miles to the end and back, cruising through little ravines, hopping across spines and knolls. no footprints, no trail, pristine lichen on all the rocks. a little amphitheater with chocolate-colored standing pillars at the top. meditation there. i got back to the motel and popped this sativa microdose pill and felt a bunch of energy so went over to the southtown gym and had a great workout. connected up with my fellas afterward. a day as high as they come.

spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Sunday, 23 February 2025 03:21 (nine months ago)

Vag canyon

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 17:29 (nine months ago)

*nods sagely*

glum mum (map), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 17:30 (nine months ago)

map i love reading and seeing your reports in this thread. living in new england with 3 kids i haven't been to utah in almost 20 years but i pine. thanks for the vicarious pleasures!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 23:24 (nine months ago)

seven months pass...

oh my god, i had a big ole heart pang when i read that update from february. i'm still with one fella but the other has flown on.

poorly-compensated salt lake city-area mountain bikers and desert rats know that when hotel prices are highest in moab (spring and fall), fruita colorado is a suitable alternative. there are hundreds of miles of trails through desert wilderness in the area. the main event is the uncompahgre uplift tipping its arm into a section of the colorado river. it's sort of the "beginning" of the colorado plateau from the north east. the first sandstone appears in smooth layers and rims around canyons that drain into the colorado. the rock and the vertical are not as dramatic overall as they are in and around moab but the desert is just as beautiful. and the ease with which a traveler inclined to spend some time outside in solitude can lose the presence of other people is greater than it is in moab. the "very scenic western town" magic that brings crowds of tourists to main street in moab doesn't really exist in fruita, though the town has caught on to its reputation as a "poor man's moab" with a family friendly vibe. there are two bike shops and a few pizza-and-burger type restaurants (one, an indian place, is legit good). the other tourist town in the area is palisade, about 30 miles to the east at the other end of the grand valley, where the colorado spills out of its last rocky mountain canyon. in palisade, there are vineyards, peach orchards, historic wood frame houses and a dispensary. people do wine tours and weddings. you can get a solid gourmet burger and locally distilled whiskey there, etc.

in the middle of fruita and palisade is grand junction, the biggest town of the three and, as many times as i've tried to like it, it's just an undeniably bad vibe. grim, grim town. down and out with a born-again contingent. conservative. reminds me of some godforsaken town on the high plains. there is a university there. for a while i thought it would be a great place to fulfill my goals of relocation - great outdoors and desert access, cleaner air, quieter and smaller town, relatively affordable, slightly warmer overall than salt lake city - but man grand junction is a dump.

anywho my partner and i are getting out of the city and spending a few days in the area this weekend. it's a good place to go overall, in spite of the grimness of grand junction. the motel i like to stay at is very reasonably priced, comfortable and locally owned, a rare combination. kind of feel like a dog who has been pent up for too long, waiting to get out of here. two more days.

she freaks, she speaks (map), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:47 (two months ago)

also depending on road quality, energy levels and confidence in trail scouting we may make a trip to see these bad boys:

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUgTHIOdskQgyoO_2QmrDCF_Mm2Xax9t18HhqmOMsRlqCvbq9DhAVsf5dTdFqXhgW1U965ozHanBBMYzOuF1mAFtURJhAc_gsUY9voQQeV0f6PyNa6RdzB2JaopZkjf2hRU18mCx9a6Dka/s1600/Sieber+Canyon+Lower+244.JPG

she freaks, she speaks (map), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 17:04 (two months ago)

^this trip was great, though we didn't end up seeing any rock art. instead we spent time in an area behind the first uplifted layer of rock on the uncompahgre colloquially known as "bangs canyon". if you can imagine a side view of the landscape looking like /|/| (where the / is actually at a much less drastic slope) we were between the first /| and the second /|. gnarled pinon and juniper and assorted brush scattered across red and gray clay-heavy soil. the trail is called the ribbon trail. i don't recall it existing the last time we went to the area several years ago but i could have just missed it. it's notable because it follows hard sandstone washes and open areas for several miles up the incline and is one of the few (only?) "straight slickrock" trails in the area. i love running on the rock so i naturally gravitated to it. the first day we did it - clear, warm, sunny weather. the second day - unsettled weather. and when i got all the way out on my "out and back," a storm started coming in. on my way back, pretty hard rain and some hail. lightning and thunder (exposure definitely a concern in the area on ridges especially). i ran into j about a mile from the trail head (he hikes while i run ahead). that last mile is an ascent up a layer of rock and as such is more exposed. this kind of desert soil - if it gets wet, it turns into a slip n slide. mud collects on your soles like cement mixed with superglue. needless to say i was walking. on one escarpment we hit a wild, strong microburst of wind, it must have been at least 60 mph - knock-you-over strong. my poor baby slipped and got real scared about getting back up and moving on. but i helped him through it and we found an alternate way up. he was pretty rattled about it but we made it back just fine and the rest of the day was nice.

and we finally tried the local favorite restaurant in fruita - hot tomato pizza. it was legit good. we both had salads and slices, both great. good people-watching - handsome rugged colorado men and women - unlike the texmex place we went to the night before with a decrepit trump rally vibe.

she freaks, she speaks (map), Friday, 10 October 2025 21:14 (two months ago)

in the middle of fruita and palisade is grand junction, the biggest town of the three and, as many times as i've tried to like it, it's just an undeniably bad vibe. grim, grim town. down and out with a born-again contingent. conservative. reminds me of some godforsaken town on the high plains. there is a university there. for a while i thought it would be a great place to fulfill my goals of relocation - great outdoors and desert access, cleaner air, quieter and smaller town, relatively affordable, slightly warmer overall than salt lake city - but man grand junction is a dump.

also just gotta note that we saw much more charming areas of grand junction on this trip and we were talking with some renewed gusto about the idea of moving there.

she freaks, she speaks (map), Friday, 10 October 2025 21:20 (two months ago)

I’m head to Grand Junction tomorrow! My brother lives there during Aspen’s non-ski season (he’s an instructor). I haven’t spent much time there, but I did enjoy the Palisades farmers market!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 10 October 2025 21:27 (two months ago)

oh that's cool, have fun :)

she freaks, she speaks (map), Friday, 10 October 2025 21:29 (two months ago)

quite a chance of rain this weekend!

she freaks, she speaks (map), Friday, 10 October 2025 21:30 (two months ago)

Looks like it. It’s the dry season in SoCal so I would actually enjoy a bit of rain. I would love to rendezvous with you when I’m not doing such a quick turnaround (back to CA on Tuesday).

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 10 October 2025 21:33 (two months ago)

I lived in Utah for 4 years as a child. I’ve made a few trips as an adult, but haven’t been to Moab since, like, 1979. There was very little there back then; I understand it has changed quite a bit since.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 10 October 2025 21:35 (two months ago)

haha, i'm clear up in slc but i appreciate the suggestion - if the stars align for a meet up one day that would be nice :). i'm into the idea of potentially living there some day. nowhere is perfect but it ticks a lot of boxes for me. hope it's a lovely trip.

she freaks, she speaks (map), Friday, 10 October 2025 21:38 (two months ago)

moab has changed a lot, definitely.

she freaks, she speaks (map), Friday, 10 October 2025 21:39 (two months ago)

three weeks pass...

couldn't turn down a last-minute trip to moab this weekend, saturday through tuesday. monday i'm calling in sick and tuesday is veteran's day, which i have off. great deal on a motel room. i'm going alone this time.

she freaks, she speaks (map), Thursday, 6 November 2025 04:09 (one month ago)

probably going to post about my trip itt over the next few days.

if other moab visitors happen to read this: the best food in town is in the deli at the back of the organic grocery store, moonflower co-op.

she freaks, she speaks (map), Sunday, 9 November 2025 02:29 (one month ago)

it's a weird place to be alone. when i lived here, i was pretty lonely and feeling a lot of pain. the running was a salve. running in such an epic place was a salve. but it only went so far.

every time i come back, that part of my life and that pain--i have to revisit it unfortunately. memories lead to feelings.

that was mostly yesterday. today i was out for about 5 hours in the sun doing a run i'd always wanted to do but never found the time (and the 4x4 drive vehicle) to do before. it was a hard one, big ascent at the end to the edge of a cliff. 8 miles out and back. i wanted to conquer something on this trip and i did. the whole experience was great. being out that long in the sun, running, towards the end i felt like i was tripping. great mix of trails too. an old school jeep trail with the grime and wear and degraded immediate environment. and then some open terrain free running in pristine rock wilderness, feeling weird about treading on lichen, definitely hopping over any cryptobiotic crust, following insane lines.

here's me at the top with a booger on my mustache.

https://i.postimg.cc/zqDcWxX3/Whats-App-Image-2025-11-10-at-6-37-57-PM.jpg

she freaks, she speaks (map), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 01:40 (one month ago)

that's highway 191 on the right 1,200 feet below on its final descent into moab.

she freaks, she speaks (map), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 01:44 (one month ago)

ok one more, gives a better sense of the insane terrain

https://i.postimg.cc/z82cCnLt/Whats-App-Image-2025-11-10-at-3-56-50-PM.jpg

she freaks, she speaks (map), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 01:51 (one month ago)

i'm back in salt lake city and feel like typing a few more things about moab vs. larger cities and the wasatch front specifically.

1. you will never find better-tasting tap water anywhere than moab. it basically comes straight out of the la sal mountains.
2. the darkness at night. overwhelming, obliterating darkness. it seeps into your soul. a dimension and experience that isn't part of life any more, for most of us.
3. the air. to use the metaphor of water: the air there is like a deep, clear lake. it isn't polluted. swimming in it every day is wonderful. the air along the wasatch front, in comparison, is a murky pond in the middle of new construction townhouses, five fast food places and an ikea. filled with microplastics. a million little murders in every breath.

coming back is always such a drag. my head and stomach hurt from the air quality the second i drop back into utah valley. the nature and the air of moab fill me with joy and life. the culture there on the other hand is wack, moneyed in inscrutable ways, tied to a grinding tourist economy and nothing else, and i don't fit in anywhere. at least here i have friends. i can be gay without attracting too much attention. i have my job, my partner, my cat, my life. in a month or so i'll be dying to get back to the desert.

she freaks, she speaks (map), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 23:45 (one month ago)

the vibe of moab these days is: upper middle class adventure tourism. a large section of its roots date from the uranium mining boom days. you see remnants of an earlier mode of the american middle class here and there. without the uranium boom it would probably be more like green river or torrey, the former a bombed-out freeway ghost town, the latter a tiny farming/ranching hamlet with some new construction and airbnb tourism from independently wealthy socal and vegas transplants.

moab's early claim to adventure tourism was in the dirt bike arena. and jeeps / 4x4s. for dudes into that stuff it's always been a mecca. i think it's fair to say that guys into jeeping and dirt bikes aren't the most reflective or refined type of person. and it's mostly guys who drive it. their wives / girlfriends gather under the banner as a matter of loyalty afaict. there is still a big contingent of jeep and car people in moab, who come to moab every year, who shape the overall culture. their influence is boneheaded macho, self-consciously american, trumpy ofc.

then there was the mountain bike wave which started in the 80s, centered on the slickrock trail and then expanding into a lot of other rock gardens around the town. their influence has also been macho, but usually more of the outdoors fitness enthusiast type. related to snowboarders and skiiers. a lot of moab mountain biking devotees high-tail it to telluride over the winter.

what else? there is arches and "dramatic rock formation" tourism. five months of tour buses. there are lesbians, devoted to the land and each other. an ecosystem i've only ever had small peeks of. there are lots and lots of dogs. everyone who lives in moab has a dog. everyone who visits moab brings their dog. there are dudes stuck in all kinds of weird dead-end macho cul-de-sacs. there are transplants from new york who started the hipster donut shop and are now trying a wine bar. people who thrill to the imaginary "simple" western macho desert rat thing flock to moab. they are from red states and blue states alike, but have one thing in common: at least a grand they can drop on a vacation.

she freaks, she speaks (map), Wednesday, 12 November 2025 00:08 (one month ago)

one month passes...

and i'm back, a month later.

just one month but the crowds are gone. i think the drop-off happens at the end of november into the beginning of december. quite a few restaurants / coffee shops / gift shops / other tourist attractions close their doors december through february. every year there is a marketing campaign to get people here in the winter but it never really makes an appreciable difference as far as i can tell. the shop closures and the crowd disappearance are mutually reinforcing. what mainly happens is that after the first significant snowfall or two, the snow stays wherever it's sheltered from the south angle of the sun. afternoon highs might get up into the upper 40s. a little bit of the snow melts and then freezes in a daily cycle - mud and ice. no bueno for the bikers, and the 4x4ers only want warm weather anyway. the first snow usually falls some time in december.

but there isn't any snow below 5,000 feet and it's unseasonably warm. highs were in the mid-50s today. almost t-shirt weather in the direct sun. i've seen a few people who look like tourists wandering down a mostly empty main street looking for coffee. and the slickrock trailhead was kind of hopping when i returned from my run around 11 am - maybe 10-15 cars in the lot.

for anyone who isn't familiar, the slickrock trail is probably moab's most famous attraction. if you've never been on it, even just hiking a mile or so out is well-worth it, especially at a less-crowded time. when there are families and tourists and other out-of-towners at the trailhead, what tends to happen is they sort of disappear after the first mile or so. more casual bikers will do the "practice loop" which is 2.2 miles but with terrain that is just as difficult as the main trail. it's a technical and an aerobic and a strength challenge. the scenery is unreal.

overall though it was very quiet in moab today. it seems like mostly locals are out and about. when i'm not outside during the sunlit hours, or tired in the afternoon from my run, i'm back in my motel room, or maybe taking a walk, or getting some more food from the co-op deli. it's easy to feel bored. an interesting feeling i'm trying to sit with and not run away from. it's what inspired me to write this before i wind down for the night.

map, Saturday, 13 December 2025 03:17 (three days ago)


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