Guinness, finally...

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So I got to telling my mates what I said last week about Guinness ads, how I constantly thought of buying a pint of it, even though I was sure I didn't like it. And one of them agreed he too had this feeling, as he put it "I see people with Guinness and think, I wish I liked it!". So last night we bought a pint each, it was actually very nice, though I can't imagine drinking more than one in an evening.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 November 2002 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is it my imagination, or does Guinness no longer taste any different in Ireland to the UK? Didn't it used to be unpasteurised in Ireland? Anyway, I'm sure it used to be creamier there.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 1 November 2002 14:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

i love guinness! ahhhh, so yummy. how can you stop after just one??

drinkin beers, beers, beers...

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 1 November 2002 14:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

N. I wouldn't know, but I can say this: english diet coke tastes really STRANGE (metallic) compared to our belgian version. in fact wasn't it christina onassis who was able to tell from drinking a coke where it was produced. Uh never mind, I quite like Guinness.

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 1 November 2002 14:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

i drink diet coke every day. er, english, obv. maybe that's why i'm so fuxing metal. i don't drink guinness every day, though.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 1 November 2002 14:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Guinness is indeed lovely. About 5 pints in a night is my limit, but I'd have more if I physically could, just for the taste.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 1 November 2002 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

i never drink more than 4 pints, i have to move onto something else after four. that's not just guinness, that's every beer. i dunno why. i just do.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 1 November 2002 14:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Diet Coke tastes different due to the country of production - it has a different recipe depending on local tastes. Coke (and its highly guarded secret) stays the same everywhere however.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 1 November 2002 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

man, i could drink diet coke all day, yo. it slips down a treat. i hate regular coca cola though. it's foul. but diet, mmmmm, mmmmm mmmmm.

that's the stuff.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 1 November 2002 15:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Diet Coke tastes different due to the country of production - it has a different recipe depending on local tastes. Coke (and its highly guarded secret) stays the same everywhere however.

Are you sure - I found that Yugoslavian Coke produces flatulence. They can't really do much about the water supply, can they?

On the continent, isn't 'Coca Cola Light' the norm rather than Diet Coke? I sometimes see grey market 'Light' cans over here with funny languages on. An afficionado (I drink the full cal stuff) told me that was a totally different recipe.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 1 November 2002 15:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't like diet coke or guinness, or diet guinness.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 November 2002 15:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

you can get slovakian coca cola in North London.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 November 2002 15:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Guinness is grebt with meals but I fill up with beery goodness before I get drunk.

Well before I get horribly drunk anyways.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 1 November 2002 15:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Guinness has always made me "funny". And not funny-ha-ha and no, not even funny-drunk. Funny, peculiar, edge of speedy and not very well. And then I found out that it has dreaded FISH EXTRACTS in it. Strange how the body knows, even when the mind doesn't. Allergies are like that, I guess.

kate, Friday, 1 November 2002 15:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

A friend was trying to explain to me about fish extracts in beer the other day. Either he wasn't very clear or I wasn't very alert, but I ended up banging my fist on the table and saying 'I refuse to believe that in this day and age we have to STRAIN BEER THROUGH A FISH!!!!'

Archel (Archel), Friday, 1 November 2002 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

STRAIN BEER THROUGH A FISH!!!!'

You mean that isnt a rugby/(american)football team tradition?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 1 November 2002 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's the oddest euphemism for teabagging I've ever heard, Noodles.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 November 2002 16:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

There's a Jazz Butcher joke in there somewhere, I just know it...

kate, Friday, 1 November 2002 16:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can someone tell me the REAL fish/beer connection before I am put off Guinness for ever...

Archel (Archel), Friday, 1 November 2002 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

the Christina Onassis thing was a very clever trick I read a wee while ago, basically she could only do it if drinking from the bottle, stamped in the bottom of each glass bottle? A code saying where the stuff was put in. Smart eh?

chris (chris), Friday, 1 November 2002 16:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's isinglass innit? an extract of fish scales iirc.

Impurities in the beer stick to it and sink to the bottom of the barrel, allowing the good stuff to be poured gently, thus removing bd stuff.

chris (chris), Friday, 1 November 2002 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Archel, I think Guinness, along with a number of bitters, uses isinglass (made from the swim bladders of fish) in its brewing process. I have no idea why.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 1 November 2002 16:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Hmm, this doesn't taste right... I've got it! THROW IN SOME FISH BLADDERS!"

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 November 2002 16:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK Cabbage and Nick, that makes a lot more sense. But 'isinglass'? It sounds like something from Lord of the Rings and is therefore STILL VERY WEIRD.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 1 November 2002 16:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

i love guinness although drinking lots does give you goth poos...

i was on the back seat of the bus this morning and someone had written "fitzgerald 02" in marker and i thought of ronan...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 1 November 2002 16:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

damn chris now you RUINED it for me. :-)

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 1 November 2002 16:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Diet Coke tastes different due to the country of production - it has a different recipe depending on local tastes. Coke (and its highly guarded secret) stays the same everywhere however.

The Coke thing isn't true. I can tell straight away if I'm drinking Coke produced anywhere other than the UK. A lot of small shops in London sell Coke imported from, I'm guessing, somewhere in eastern Europe, for reasons I've never quite worked out.

Interesting thing about these varieties, apart from the taste difference, is that when it's a 500ml bottle the plastic circle that is supposed to separate from the cap when you first open it doesn't separate, and it can be hard consequently to screw the cap back on. This perhaps isn't such an interesting thing.

I was in Prague for a while, and the Coke initially tasted horrible. Then I got used to it, and I thought the UK version tasted funny for a while when I came back.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 1 November 2002 17:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

that is interesting, I remember being in Prague and finding that plastic cap thing INFURIATING. Also I thought pretty much every kind of drink was horrible (apart from the beer, hurhur).

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 November 2002 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Does the Guinness stuff we get in the US suck compared to UK/Ireland, then? I've heard people say it's better over there. Who's had both?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 24 July 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I used to be able to drink 8+ pints of Guinness in a night, when I was a student. These days I'm fucked if I can manage more than four. It IS different in Ireland to the UK, but not as profoundly as I'd hoped.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Saturday, 24 July 2004 08:06 (nineteen years ago) link

What's with the two different types of canned Guinness?

Bob Six (bobbysix), Saturday, 24 July 2004 09:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd say it is different between US/UK, but can vary substantially. I had heard that it was even better in Ireland, but the one pint I had in Dublin was no better than the ones I've had in the US. Definitely had some very excellent ones on occasion in the UK though.

gizmo (gizmo), Saturday, 24 July 2004 09:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I heard that the FDA say they have to pasteurise it, for the USA.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 24 July 2004 10:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I've had both and couldn't really tell the difference.

57 7th (calstars), Saturday, 24 July 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd say it is different between US/UK, but can vary substantially. Yes, though it varies equally from Dublin to the rest of Ireland and from Ireland to England, and there to continental Europe.

http://www.ivo.se/guinness/specs.html

j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Saturday, 24 July 2004 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link

From that website:

Bottled Guinness (U.S.)
This is an "Extra Stout"
Alcohol: 4.8% abw, 6% abv (although one poster noted that they had seen 5.6% in their promotional materials. Michael Jackson reports these figures.)

This only confuses matters.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 24 July 2004 13:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Michael Jackson = http://www.beerhunter.com/images/3front.gif , renowned beer expert, not international Thrilla.

j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Saturday, 24 July 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i heart michael jackson. entertaining and informative on the beer front. good read too.

here in the US there's now, besides the tall draft cans and regular bottled Guiness, a new bottled version that comes in a plastic bottle and has the thingy in there that makes it pour like draft. but it's a complete racket as it's only, like, 9 ounces or something for the same price as the 12 oz., non-draft style. granted it is creamier and smoother than either the can or 12 oz. bottled version. but fer my money...

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

LA Times goes to Ireland and discovers things for itself.

At Davy Byrnes, the conversation has moved on to whether John McCain inappropriately placated his Vietnamese captors ("He sang like a canary," Winter declares); the mass suicide and massacre of Jews in York in 1190; Josef Stalin's execution of his top army officers in the run-up to World War II; and a song by the Waterboys on a similar subject. Someone tries to remember how it goes. An argument ensues over whether the Waterboys ought to be considered an Irish band, or Scottish, or English.

Delany, the barman, looks to be of the opinion that he's not getting paid enough to keep pouring the Guinness down here, but pour he does.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 July 2008 04:43 (fifteen years ago) link


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