what is the best (scripted) punk movie

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Cobbled together from various lists - I've seen *maybe* a quarter of these. I deliberately omitted the Germs one cause it sucks. I allowed for a generous interpretation of what a "punk movie" is for maximum diversity, and left out docs to keep it manageable (and also 'cause Decline... would have run away with it, I think). feel free to chastise me for omissions or weird inclusions

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Repo Man 15
Josie and the Pussycats 5
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains 5
Suburbia 5
Rock n’ Roll High School 4
We Are the Best! 4
Times Square 4
Female Trouble 3
Liquid Sky 3
Desperate Living 3
Valley Girl 2
Green Room 2
SLC Punk 2
Out of the Blue 1
Wild Zero 1
Smithereens 1
Tank Girl 1
Hard Core Logo 1
Breaking Glass 1
Sid and Nancy 1
Bad Boy Bubby 1
Summer of Sam 0
Terminal City Ricochet 0
Surf Nazis Must Die 0
The Taqwacores 0
Wassup Rockers 0
Straight to Hell 0
Tapeheads 0
subUrbia 0
Thrashin’ 0
Outsider (1997) 0
The Runaways 0
Brothers of the Head 0
Burst City 0
Class of 1984 0
Control 0
Desperate Teenage Lovedolls 0
Dogs in Space 0
Dudes 0
Ex Drummer 0
Human Highway 0
Loren Cass 0
Luster 0
Mary’s Not a Virgin Anymore 0
Class of Nuke ‘Em High 0
Return of the Living Dead 0
Roadkill (1989) 0
Blank Generation (1980) 0


Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:32 (six years ago)

great poll. skipping repo man to vote for josie and the pussycats

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:34 (six years ago)

Acknowledging Repo Man as a major blindspot, I'm going with Rock n' Roll High School over Liquid Sky.

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:39 (six years ago)

oh god tank girl

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:46 (six years ago)

Green Room is probably best movie on here although I sort of hesitate to call it a punk film so I’m going for We Are The Best! which equally albeit differently is wonderful and seems more on point. Out Of The Blue IIRC is quite good as well but it’s been a decade and a half.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:52 (six years ago)

lmao I included Josie just for you brad

Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:56 (six years ago)

this poll was inspired by the Lightbox holding a free screening of Hard Core Logo today

Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:57 (six years ago)

Expected I would just be voting Repo Man but actually, it's a tight contest between that, the two John Waters movies, Return of the Living Dead, Summer of Sam, and Surf Nazis Must Die.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 July 2018 14:12 (six years ago)

shouts out to valley girl too

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 July 2018 14:16 (six years ago)

Impossible not to vote for Liquid Sky in any poll it's on, so

imago, Sunday, 1 July 2018 14:48 (six years ago)

Love all of the horror/horror-ish ones (RotLD, Nukem High, Green Room) but they feel out of place here. As does Rock n' Roll High School (a masterpiece).

Straight to Hell is so bad. Hard to believe that's how Cox chose to follow up his other two films on this list.

I haven't seen it in a minute but I might go with SLC Punk. Definitely Lillard's best non-Twin Peaks performance.

A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Sunday, 1 July 2018 15:22 (six years ago)

I watched Tank Girl just the other day, deary me.

Wish I'd looked at this list properly before voting though

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Sunday, 1 July 2018 15:25 (six years ago)

Interesting idea for a poll, thanks

Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 July 2018 15:30 (six years ago)

great poll. skipping repo man to vote for josie and the pussycats

― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Sunday, July 1, 2018 9:34 AM (one hour ago)

otm

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 1 July 2018 15:32 (six years ago)

(RotLD, Nukem High, Green Room) but they feel out of place here. As does Rock n' Roll High School (a masterpiece).

I definitely hesitated esp with RotLD, but Green Room unquestionably belongs on any list of great punk movies.

Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:14 (six years ago)

Of the movies I've seen on this list and have a decent recollection of, I'd rank em

Hard Core Logo > Female Trouble > Green Room > We are the Best! > Bad Boy Bubby > Ex Drummer > Faulous Stains > Repo Man > RotLD > Wild Zero > The Runaways > Control >>>>>> subUrbia and Tapeheads

Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:18 (six years ago)

yeah i think green room absolutely makes sense here

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:21 (six years ago)

Feels like a punk movie should be a shitty yet in some way compelling time capsule with roles and cameos by a number of musicians and not-yet-famous actors. And normally set in some kind of punk scene. (Jubilee should be here)

everything, Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:28 (six years ago)

Jubilee would absolutely have been included if I'd clocked that it was scripted. (shamefully I haven't seen any Jarman beyond a few of his videos)

Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:32 (six years ago)

Co-signing that this is a great poll idea, some great films here. Tempted to go for return of the living dead

I guess radio-on is post-punk and fassbinder is proto-punk

U. K. Le Garage (wins), Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:03 (six years ago)

this book is u & k:

https://d19vkqie08zn8u.cloudfront.net/image/2010/11/destroy-all-movies-the-complete-guide-to-punks-on-film-0.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:17 (six years ago)

Burst City is truly something else, hard to not vote repo man but I’m tempted.

JoeStork, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:25 (six years ago)

No 'Great Rock n Roll Swindle'? It's years since I saw it so I suspect it hasn't dated well, but as capturing lightning in a bottle I'd guess it does the job.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:30 (six years ago)

Yep, I fucked up there.

Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:34 (six years ago)

Female Trouble stands apart from these as a crazed tour de force, obv an influence on punk rather than inspired by it.

Otherwise I like Times Square the best, it's got heart and is very affecting.. as is the scrappy and bittersweet Smithereens.

Josefa, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:46 (six years ago)

jfc vote for repo man you weenies

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:52 (six years ago)

My buddy Care failure is the star of hardcore logo 2.
Never seen it tho

Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:54 (six years ago)

I confess I still have not seen HCL2. McDonald's recent films that I've seen have left me cold (with the exception of the great Pontypool)

Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:56 (six years ago)

I've not seen Repo Man - maybe I'll watch it if you all watch Liquid Sky

imago, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:57 (six years ago)

Done

U. K. Le Garage (wins), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:08 (six years ago)

Voted, didn't agonize over "scripted."

Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:10 (six years ago)

lj watch repo man

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:11 (six years ago)

Well, "Swindle" wasn't scripted much, but so was(nt) "Rude Boy" so that should have been there if so.

Anyway, voted "Rock and roll high school" bcaus Amber and Alice

Mark G, Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:09 (six years ago)

Inexplicably haven’t seen Repo Man yet. So I went with The Fabulous Stains, despite the fact that Summer Of Sam has some of the best uses of Who songs in a film (as it happens, Spike Lee is a Who fanatic).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:20 (six years ago)

Straight To Hell is a classic. Getting a deluxe Blu-Ray next month, too.

Ranking the ones I've seen:

Repo Man
Straight to Hell
We Are the Best!
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains
Green Room
Return of the Living Dead
Josie and the Pussycats
Sid and Nancy
Wassup Rockers
SLC Punk
Liquid Sky
Tapeheads
Valley Girl
Suburbia
Tank Girl
Rock n’ Roll High School
Class of Nuke ‘Em High
Surf Nazis Must Die
Dudes
The Runaways
Summer of Sam
Control

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:30 (six years ago)

dont vote against repo man until you’ve seen it i begging u

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:36 (six years ago)

Lol I just bought Bad Boy Bubby the other week

bedraggled vorticist (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:46 (six years ago)

Fabulous Stains and We Are the Best! are genuine contenders but i gotta go with Repo Man.

omar little, Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:59 (six years ago)

vanilla sky

glengarry glen lurkmore (rip van wanko), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:03 (six years ago)

I was torn between Repo Man and SLC Punk until I saw Josie & the Pussycats made the list. The true punk vote, because it’s all about killing pop stars iirc?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:04 (six years ago)

Josie not the true punk vote because it sucks (sorry).

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:33 (six years ago)

yeah, their previous film got shredded by studio censors and Josie was still a massive disappointment afterward

Back Door Lover rules though

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:54 (six years ago)

Times Square and it ain't even close

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 1 July 2018 23:23 (six years ago)

Fabulous Stains isn't a *great* movie but the tunes are fun and it's wild to see super-young Laura Dern, Diane Lane, and Ray Winstone

Simon H., Monday, 2 July 2018 00:39 (six years ago)

And Black Randy

dan selzer, Monday, 2 July 2018 00:49 (six years ago)

I'm going with Valley Girl, even though there's nothing much punk about the Plimsouls and the best part of the soundtrack is Sparks. Otherwise would've been Repo Man. Also love We Are the Best and special interest in Brothers of the Head, where the punk music was written by Clive Langer and is great.

dan selzer, Monday, 2 July 2018 00:51 (six years ago)

I haven't seen nearly enough of these to be qualified to vote, but I voted for We Are the Best! anyway because I love that movie.

JRN, Monday, 2 July 2018 01:50 (six years ago)

Wtf @ all you the non-repo man viewers y’all are in for a treat

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 July 2018 02:03 (six years ago)

And Black Randy

And The Professionals!

Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 July 2018 02:18 (six years ago)

I'm not sure it fits here (and i like ALOT of these) but it's an all-time favorite for me....Desperate Living!

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 2 July 2018 02:29 (six years ago)

i love repo man and i've seen it a couple of times but not in a while so refresh my memory ... how is it a "punk movie"? just because of the soundtrack?

lots of great movies on here, i voted for fabulous stains but rnr high school and we are the best! made it tough

na (NA), Monday, 2 July 2018 14:10 (six years ago)

i guess estevez starts out the movie as a punk ... there just doesn't seem to be much punk content in repo man, at least not that i can remember

na (NA), Monday, 2 July 2018 14:11 (six years ago)

well, the Circle Jerks are in it

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 July 2018 16:07 (six years ago)

repo man is punk as hell

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 2 July 2018 16:09 (six years ago)

I've only seen maybe ten of these...For fun and nostalgia, Rock 'n' Roll High School; for a more Simon Frith/Greil Marcus-type meditation on "the meaning of punk" (sorry...), We Are the Best!.

clemenza, Monday, 2 July 2018 16:12 (six years ago)

repo man would still be punk if it had an all-pink-floyd soundtrack

difficult listening hour, Monday, 2 July 2018 16:17 (six years ago)

C: Repo Man, Rock'n'roll High School, Green Room, Wild Zero

Liked when I was a teenager, might not now: Sid and Nancy

Quite liked the film but punk content a bit dodgy: Summer of Sam

I keep meaning to watch Terminal City Ricochet. Pretty sure I've got it torrented somewhere

Colonel Poo, Monday, 2 July 2018 17:29 (six years ago)

Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains, Green Room, Return of the Living Dead, Liquid Sky, Repo Man, Control. Wild Zero is nuts. Pussycats is awesome, and mmmmmaybe the only original song soundtrack from one of these movies I actually listen to.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 July 2018 18:43 (six years ago)

The Repo Man soundtrack was a massively important document - Black Flag, Suicidal Tendencies, the Circle Jerks, and the Plugz (among others) on an MCA release, which meant distribution to major record stores outside the import bins? I knew a ton of kids who learned about punk from that record. Plus, the Iggy Pop theme song is all-time. I was kind of amazed when I heard he busted it out for that recent tour with Josh Homme.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 2 July 2018 18:45 (six years ago)

Yeah, Repo Man soundtrack was The Harder They Come of early '80s punk.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 July 2018 18:46 (six years ago)

ppl itt who think josie and the pussycats is a bad movie are totally not jerkin'

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 2 July 2018 18:54 (six years ago)

It's possibly the only movie ever that has a teenage girl in the shower scene that has absolutely no sexual overtone at all!

Mark G, Monday, 2 July 2018 18:58 (six years ago)

Hopper's Out of the Blue is bonkers. Pretty good too IIRC. Remember discovering it via a list of Harmony Korine's favorite movies many years ago.

When I think ultimate punk movie, it's always Repo Man though.

circa1916, Monday, 2 July 2018 19:14 (six years ago)

Out of the Blue really is great. Probably the best movie about punks vs. hippies

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 July 2018 19:21 (six years ago)

Out of the Blue has two of my favorite tracking shots ever (bowling alley, and Linda Manz stomping straight through the cheerleaders practicing).

I think I'm the only person who actually likes Straight to Hell, a lot (well, me and Jeff McCloud). The disco wiener song is one of my favorite wtf moments in movies ("They sizzle! They grizzle!").

gjoon1, Monday, 2 July 2018 22:19 (six years ago)

As I said above, I love Straight to Hell. I own the Anchor Bay DVD and am gonna upgrade to the Blu-Ray when Kino Lorber puts it out in August.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 00:06 (six years ago)

Linda Manz has the greatest accent

. (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 00:10 (six years ago)

24 Hour Party People arguably belongs here for its detour into that Manchester Sex Pistols show.

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 00:52 (six years ago)

Kinda Sorta* Missing Option

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/aa/1c/8eaa1c43edd95d954271b6ef640446ad.jpg

*Because the soundtrack isn't as Punk as I remembered--only one Ramones song!

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 02:19 (six years ago)

After Hours could slip in there.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 02:23 (six years ago)

Def postpunk that and awez.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 02:24 (six years ago)

I've seen most of these and there is no wrong answer. I voted for the Spheeris Suburbia - dumb and melodramatic, but it actually did feel like it was filmed around the suburban gutterpunk scene around Pomona

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 02:30 (six years ago)

24 Hour Party People arguably belongs here for its detour into that Manchester Sex Pistols show.

I def considered it!

Simon H., Tuesday, 3 July 2018 02:46 (six years ago)

I should rewatch this. Really loved it when it was newish, but it's been a while. I bet my son would like it because it has music history nerd appeal.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 02:50 (six years ago)

Don't know why John's movies are included but voted for Desperate Living. Dig this poll though.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 03:17 (six years ago)

Hopefully that one gets reissued by Criterion like Multiple Maniacs & Female Trouble. Lost my copy years ago.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 03:19 (six years ago)

Kind of makes sense as proto-punk documents, but I was also wondering about their inclusion.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 03:21 (six years ago)

well also why no Pink Flamingos? they are certainly 'punk' in their subversiveness, the way they were made, the people that made them (they all, like punks, hated hippies), a lot of their audience. they just have nothing to do with punk music. which afaic doesn't really matter, I fuck with this poll

flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 03:26 (six years ago)

I instituted an arbitrary two-films-per-director limit, which I *think* I stuck to lol

Simon H., Tuesday, 3 July 2018 03:39 (six years ago)

many xxposts Repo Man is punk in the truest sense of the word. not just music!

it’s a no-budget dystopian in-joke that does not care if anyone likes it except the people making it. there is nothing more punk than that imo.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 05:46 (six years ago)

Repo Man

Or

RotLD

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 06:00 (six years ago)

If I was thinking, I'd have included this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_Story_(film)

Simon H., Tuesday, 3 July 2018 06:07 (six years ago)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185417/

irish punk movie from '97. its only ok though tbh

. (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 08:59 (six years ago)

two weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 21 July 2018 00:01 (six years ago)

I'd never seen Suburbia, great trash cinema!

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 21 July 2018 00:06 (six years ago)

We Are the Best! and Female Trouble both have hilarious scripts.

Saw 19 or 20 of these... I've never seen SubUrbia, but i did see the first production of the Eric Bogosian play it's based on.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 July 2018 00:20 (six years ago)

Linda Manz has the greatest accent


I watched Days of Heaven with someone I was dating a few years ago and I think her only observations through the thing were about how awful/ridiculous her accent was and it was an immediate “welp, this isn’t going to work”.

circa1916, Saturday, 21 July 2018 00:27 (six years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 22 July 2018 00:01 (six years ago)

hell yeah

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 July 2018 00:06 (six years ago)

(dis)honourable mention for Near Dark (1987)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 July 2018 00:42 (six years ago)

very happy with these results, esp being the sole HCL voter, which feels right

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Sunday, 22 July 2018 00:50 (six years ago)

VINDICATED

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 July 2018 01:01 (six years ago)

Thx to simon and props to vg, good thread

Hunt3r, Sunday, 22 July 2018 03:08 (six years ago)

R&RHS needed an extra vote, joint third is wrong. Joint second would be fair.

Mark G, Sunday, 22 July 2018 09:43 (six years ago)

After a second viewing of 20th Century Women (I waited a full year, because I didn't want to be disappointed), I think I'd pick that as the greatest punk movie ever. That's not all it is, but that part of it is perfect.

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:10 (six years ago)

seven months pass...

"dudes" is on hulu right now (along with "suburbia" and "rock n roll high school") and i watched the first 30 minutes in the gym. it's a mish-mash tonally, jon cryer as a punk bent on revenge is laughable, and flea goes overboard with the manic energy, but it's a fun movie and i plan on watching the rest.

na (NA), Monday, 18 March 2019 19:38 (six years ago)

it isn't particularly punk, even the soundtrack is mostly metal bands. the song "lost highway" by little kings is used during the opening credits. i'd never heard of little kings before so i looked them up and gore verbinski was in the band? they also had one of the earliest releases on epitaph records, in 1989.

na (NA), Monday, 18 March 2019 19:40 (six years ago)

oh i also saw "rock n roll high school" in the theater a couple of weeks ago. i used to own it on vhs so i'd probably seen it like 15 times but not since the early 2000s. it's a great movie to see with a big audience.

na (NA), Monday, 18 March 2019 19:40 (six years ago)

Would The Warriors not count as a punk movie? I guess the soundtrack disqualifies it but the look and feel is there.

Siegbran, Monday, 18 March 2019 19:50 (six years ago)

I can't believe I didn't make my perennial reference to "Down And Out With The Dolls" in this thread, it's worth a watch

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Monday, 18 March 2019 20:32 (six years ago)


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