― A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 4 November 2002 02:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― JM, Monday, 4 November 2002 03:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― JM, Monday, 4 November 2002 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 4 November 2002 04:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 4 November 2002 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)
Pete to thread!
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 4 November 2002 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)
I think the position of non-Western cinema even reaching Western audiences is one bundled up with so many contradictions (Iranian films are now - due to their success getting a fair amnount of co-production money which then feeds the industry). But if you think of the films released in the UK last year, the fifth largest exporter of titles was Iran. This is being concentrated around four or five directors - one cannot help but wonder if their are othe rnational cinemas who could also blossom with this kind of critical interest.
Not to do down the quality of any of the Iranian films I've liked.
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 4 November 2002 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 4 November 2002 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― david h (david h), Monday, 4 November 2002 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 4 November 2002 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)
I also have a suspicion that his movies are so slow because he may have nothing to say. But Close-Up = total masterpiece.
― ryan, Wednesday, 6 November 2002 03:26 (twenty-two years ago)
Mentioned above is the amazing film 'The Apple'. It tells the real story of two sisters who've been locked up by their father for their entire life until rescued by welfare authorities and it stars the family involved.
― Amarga (Amarga), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)
are kids used as subjects to go under the radar of state censorship? and why always the quest theme - i mean I know it's not unique to Iranian cinema but just seems so prevalent.
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)
the girl wants a goldfish. she haggles her mother for the money and then she loses it down the drain and she needs to get ppl to help her.
OK i saw it a long time ago and my memory isn't as good these days but that's how i remember it.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 7 November 2002 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 7 November 2002 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― David. (Cozen), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.mastersofcinema.org/pics/kiarostami_28_08_04.jpg
― amateur!!st, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:58 (twenty years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:21 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:43 (twenty years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:56 (twenty years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:39 (twenty years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:23 (twenty years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:26 (twenty years ago)
The conversation with the purse-snatcher in the second scene was pretty funny.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago)
iranian films are HUGE in paris. there were often 10 of them in theaters at once. i had a hard time following all the new releases. inevitably the euphoria of first disocovery has worn off a bit, and i've seen a few that didn't impress me at all.
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:39 (twenty years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:45 (twenty years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:27 (twenty years ago)
i don't think the second part of this sentence follows from the first
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:36 (twenty years ago)
As does everything involved in film.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:38 (twenty years ago)
― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)
― Eric von H. (Eric H.), Friday, 6 May 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 6 May 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Friday, 6 May 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)
the insert to the bfi VHS?
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)
Kiarostami's final film "24 Frames" , made in the last 3 years before his death in 2016, is, uh, something. He took a photo of a Pieter Bruegel the Elder's 1565 painting The Hunters in the Snow and 23 of his own photos (many of them of snow-covered fields, or waves crashing on the shore) and imagined what happened before and after. He via computer tools added 4 minutes or so of action to each of the 24 shots. Some are wearying and repetitious with little happening, but others are special.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:16 (seven years ago)
I keep missing Fest films... Maybe I can make it this weekend
― curmudgeon, Friday, 9 February 2018 17:38 (seven years ago)
Two years later the 25th anniversary DC Film Festival of Iranian Films is virtual and free, but you have to live in the DC area to see the movies through February 7th.
I liked Bandar Band and Dance with Me.
https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/507554/city-lights-the-25th-dc-festival-of-films-from-iran-goes-on-virtually/
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 4 February 2021 01:13 (four years ago)
Come back other ilxor fans of Iranian film
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 4 February 2021 05:05 (four years ago)
I tried, but can't watch the films outside DC/Maryland/Virginia.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Friday, 5 February 2021 01:55 (four years ago)
Is the entire thread about Abbas Kiarostami and Jafar Panahi
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Friday, 5 February 2021 02:00 (four years ago)
Well, ok. I took my mom to see Closed Curtain at IFC years ago and she complained the entire time that it was insufferably boring and repeatedly urged me to walk out with her.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Friday, 5 February 2021 02:07 (four years ago)
Oh well. I think the DC Film Fest offerings may also be available for viewers in Houston, Texas and Boston, Mass via museums there. Bandar Band , although flawed, is worth seeing as is Dance w/ Me.
I still have lots of old Iranian new wave films to see.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 6 February 2021 20:40 (four years ago)
Just watched Crimson Gold as it was expiring from Criterion and really glad I did. Here is some discussion, including a great Morbius take:Briefly talk about what you've seen recentlyIs the entire thread about Abbas Kiarostami and Jafar PanahiSo it would seem. Apologies for continuing the trend.
― Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 18:50 (three years ago)
Really enjoyed this, and impressed by implicit political implications, although also, there are a lot of times and places in which you really, really wouldn't want to call the cops, no matter what:The Salesman (Persian: فروشنده, romanized: Forušande, released in France as Le Client) is a 2016 drama film written and directed by Asghar Farhadi and starring Taraneh Alidoosti and Shahab Hosseini. It is about a married couple who perform Arthur Miller's 1949 play Death of a Salesman on stage. When the wife is assaulted, her husband attempts to determine the identity of the attacker, while she struggles to cope with post-trauma stress. Farhadi chose Miller's play as his story within a story based on shared themes. A co-production between Iran and France, the film was shot in Tehran, beginning in 2015.
The film premiered in competition in the 2016 Cannes Film Festival, where it won two awards—Best Screenplay for Farhadi and Best Actor for Hosseini. The Salesman was very well-received by film critics, who mainly praised Farhadi's direction and writing, and won the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film. However, Farhadi did not attend the 89th Academy Awards ceremony in protest of the U.S. Executive Order 13769.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Salesman_(2016_film)
― dow, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 21:18 (three years ago)
implicit implications OK!
― dow, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 21:19 (three years ago)
Been meaning to watch that one. Recently watched this Israeli Apple TV+ production called Tehran, in which the Iranian characters are pretty sympathetic so now have been inspired to (re)watch some actual Iranian movies.
― Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 21:24 (three years ago)
Tbh I kind of got used to Athens doubling as Tehran so interesting to see how the real place looks. Which is not totally different.
― Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 21:25 (three years ago)
― Wile E. Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:18 (three years ago)
Lots about Farhadi upthread already.
― Wile E. Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:20 (three years ago)
Anyway, HIT THE ROAD lived up to its trailer and poster.
― Wile E. Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 May 2022 11:08 (three years ago)
Watched About Elly and The Salesman over the weekend. I suppose either The Hero or Fireworks Wednesday is next.
― Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 May 2022 16:19 (three years ago)
I have lots of catching up to do
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:16 (three years ago)
The Hero another nail-biter.
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 May 2022 20:27 (three years ago)
And there’s a story behind the story: https://www.indiewire.com/2022/04/asghar-farhadi-found-guilty-plagiarism-a-hero-1234714331/
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 May 2022 20:36 (three years ago)
https://www.vulture.com/2022/04/asghar-farhadi-sued-plagiarism-a-hero.html
Masihzadeh claimed Farhadi made her sign a document in 2019, before he began production on A Hero, stating that he owned the idea for All Winners, All Losers, which she did “under great pressure.” Farhadi’s lawyer does not dispute the document, saying it clarified that “he was the one who proposed the idea and the plot of the documentary.” His lawyer said he researched the story on his own, based on media coverage; Masihzadeh claims there was little coverage of the incident that inspired her documentary. Relatedly, Farhadi claimed the main character of A Hero, Rahim, is dissimilar to the real-life subject of All Winners, All Losers. One former student from 2011 additionally told The Hollywood Reporter he believed Farhadi made a film based off one of his projects, but did not plan to sue because he “is a genius filmmaker.”
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 May 2022 14:33 (three years ago)
An interview with Farhadi also on Vulture links to this interesting article: https://www.latimes.com/local/great-reads/la-me-c1-tarof-20150706-story.html
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 May 2022 14:44 (three years ago)
It seems that the star of About Elly, Golshifteh Farahani, is mostly making films in exile in France these days, including a really terrible love triangle thing I recently tried to watch called Two Friends directed by Alfred's crush Louis Garrel.
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 May 2022 15:23 (three years ago)
Not the same film, butNever Coming to a Theater Near You - Arthouse Cinema 2016
Louis Garrel's directorial debut may be the worst feature i've endured in the last several years― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, March 7, 2016 2:18 PM (six years ago)
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 May 2022 15:25 (three years ago)
Think my take on Farhadi is close to Bilge Ebiri’s.
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:43 (three years ago)
really liked About Elly
― Dan S, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:53 (three years ago)
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/07/did-the-oscar-winning-director-asghar-farhadi-steal-ideas
― Regex Dwight (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 October 2022 21:40 (two years ago)
Also this: https://www.indiewire.com/2022/10/jafar-panahi-and-mohammad-rasoulof-tear-gassed-in-iran-prison-fire-1234772987/
― Regex Dwight (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 October 2022 22:04 (two years ago)
Search: The Runner!
― Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 November 2022 00:48 (two years ago)
I hadn't heard about the plagiarism case prior to reading that article, but it seemed quite damning. Although this quote from an erstwhile collaborator makes sense:
"If you ask me—as a person who hasn’t seen either ‘A Hero’ or the documentary but just knows the guy extremely well—this is not plagiarism. Asghar is far too intelligent and interesting as an artist, as a writer, to do something like that. This is him wanting control over authorship. It’s a character flaw.”
Everyone in the article is just like "Look, I don't care that you took my idea, just acknowledge that you did it." And he won't.
― jaymc, Monday, 14 November 2022 00:55 (two years ago)
Found that article totally fascinating for the same reason, the fact that other figures in the industry were so willing to go on the record to basically say, "Haha, yeah, of course he passed off her work as 100% his creation, that's just how he is."
― intheblanks, Monday, 14 November 2022 03:26 (two years ago)
Didn’t really read that article until just now and it was indeed fascinating and kind of painful to read. To me it is as if the hero with the “broken smile” of The Hero is kind of an obvious DO U SEE? shadow self for Farhadi.
― Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 November 2022 06:05 (two years ago)
Bahram Beyzaeie's Downpour, on the third World Cinema Project box, is a really excellent comedy.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 14 November 2022 11:23 (two years ago)
Are you saying that because you know he edited The Runner?
― Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 November 2022 11:56 (two years ago)
New Jafar Panahi is good, believe the hype!
― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 January 2023 05:12 (two years ago)
Panahi on hunger strike. This is sickening!
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:27 (two years ago)
it's pretty horrible.
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 February 2023 15:33 (two years ago)
Apparently he's just been released from jail?
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:25 (two years ago)
Great news!
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:27 (two years ago)
Now what about Mohammad Rasoulof?
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:28 (two years ago)
Rasoulof has apparently been out for a month: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/feb/03/iranian-film-maker-jafar-panahi-released-on-bail-after-hunger-strike
― Frederik B, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:19 (two years ago)
About to watch Samira Makhmalbaf’s THE APPLE and came across this about her dad’s little film school which she attended:https://www.sensesofcinema.com/2002/filmmaker-profiles/makhmalbaf/
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 20:40 (two years ago)
Not an Iranian film, but Golshifteh Farahani is really good in the film known in English as ARAB BLUES.
― after the pinefox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 00:39 (two years ago)
Movie is kind of broad and she plays a French-Tunisian rather thn a French-Irani but her perfomance is still good.
― after the pinefox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 00:59 (two years ago)
Just finally watched Rasoulof’s There Is No Evil before it leaves MUBI. It is indeed very long but the first and last sections both make it worth your time.
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 March 2023 06:10 (two years ago)
And today I watched his The Seed of the Sacred Fig. Incredibly intense, I was on the edge of my seat the entire time.
― James Carr Thief (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 January 2025 00:38 (five months ago)
Planning on seeing that in DC. I think it’s showing here as both part of an Iranian film fest and separately
https://asia.si.edu/whats-on/events/event-series/29th-annual-festival-of-films-from-iran/
― curmudgeon, Monday, 6 January 2025 15:29 (five months ago)
It's pretty good except for the thriller-suspense ending.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 January 2025 15:45 (five months ago)
Rasoulof doing an in-person at MoMI tomorrow, along with the actress who played the older daughter.
― James Carr Thief (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 January 2025 02:05 (five months ago)
Just saw Seed of the Sacred Fig . I wasn’t crazy about ending either but the film earlier showed the horrible situations that people can get placed in under authoritarian governments, and how situations can be made ever more stressful and tense in such a world . Some of it had me thinking of federal employees now under Trump.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 24 January 2025 21:15 (four months ago)