US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

thread title cribbed from Raymond C., if ppl hate it feel free to delete or rename or whatever

anyway here's something that sucks to start the month off

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/nyregion/democrats-brooklyn-county-committee-seddio.html?action=click&module=In%20Other%20News&pgtype=Homepage&action=click&module=News&pgtype=Homepage

good mourning!

Where's the tax returns?

("Where's Wallace, String?")

Wonder how widespread that situation in Brooklyn is and how long it would take to reform once brought to light.
Really hoping it is going to be looked at now. &it's not going to be putting people off voting for the party at a time that everybody who can vote Dem should be being encouraged to. Reminds me of Labour 2 years ago where people were being excluded from the party by a stagnant inner party at a crucial time.

this was linked in the previous thread. long story short, Kavanaugh very obviously perjured himself, a lot

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/how-we-know-kavanaugh-is-lying

question - if Dems get the house back and the Speaker position, they can just take Nunes off of the Intelligence committee, right?

Yeah.

I think?

i thought the parties assigned their own committee memberships and leaders.

They do.

I don't understand how media considers the renegotiation of NAFTA some sort of win for Trump? Thing is almost the same as it used to be and dude campaigned on pulling away from it altogether.

It's like the bull took a shit in the china shop and exited without causing damage and everyone was happy despite all the shit

I don’t know the details of the Canada side of the deal yet, but iirc trump was pivoting to boasting about how great the new name of it will be, and how bad “nafta” is

That's probably why he changed the deal. Reportedly he wanted to rename it USMC in honor of the Marine Corp, because he is such a patriot, but I guess it is now USMCA?

The win is that the deal starts with the US letters.

America first!

lmao

John Oliver pointed out the farcical idea of Kavanaugh pere having a tradition of keeping Calendars to relate these old family stories over Xmas from. & the tradition being all of 4 years old at the oldest.
Oh & Kavanaugh sr being sat behind his son in the courtroom. So the idea of bnostalgia for this perfect time when his dad was till around is a little odd to say the least.

Anyway, I think congress still needs to ratify the deal if I understand and that will most probably after the midterms so who knows what happens to USMike D over the next 2-3 months.

from the press conference the other day:

REPORTER: But are you going to notify Congress you’re pulling out of NAFTA.

TRUMP: What we’re probably going to do is call it the “USMC,” like the United States Marine Corps, which I love. General [John] Kelly likes it even more. Where is General Kelly? He likes that. USMC. Which would be US, Mexico, Canada. But it will probably or possibly be just USM. It will be United States and Mexico.

the USMC. the United States Mexico Canada. great name

what's great about it is that the name lets everyone know exactly which countries are involved. not like that pesky North American free trade agreement, an enigma wrapped in a hot dog

One thing for sure, Guatemala will never join the USMC.

i thought the parties assigned their own committee memberships and leaders.

― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Monday, October 1, 2018 10:57 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They do.

― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, October 1, 2018 10:59 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Would he still be the chair of the committee with a party change?

i can't get over that it's a plus that it has the same initials as the marines

Would he still be the chair of the committee with a party change?

― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal

No, no. The Republican would become the ranking member.

why can't we just call it the United States Act

full mental crackpot

I'm sure he traded Chapter 19 for the name.

Thing is almost the same as it used to be and dude campaigned on pulling away from it altogether.

If the goal was to end NAFTA, it's a failure for Trump. If the goal was to threaten to pull away in order to extract concessions from Canada, it's less of a failure.

Trump doesn't have goals, he has feelings

Dairy market seems to be the only concessions and as I said in the Canadian thread, it looks like the opening will be quite lesser than the one initially planned in the TPP. Steel and aluminium still an unknown.

Patent protection for biologics and copyright extension both seem significant too.

But yeah, we're basically going over the same points on both threads.

"biologics" is such a freaky word

It is, but I inject one every couple weeks anyway (the sticker price is $3000 a month!)

If the goal was to end NAFTA, it's a failure for Trump.

Ah, but if it is renamed USMC, then NAFTA has disappeared. Voila!

So he can tell supporters he “repealed NAFTA” in advance of the midterms. Lame

lmao they're not even trying to make this look like a real investigation

“I thought it was going to be an investigation,” a Yale classmate of Brett Kavanaugh and Deborah Ramirez said, of the F.B.I.’s renewed inquiry. “But instead it seems it’s just an alibi for Republicans to vote for Kavanaugh.” https://t.co/H24YpATyAD

— The New Yorker (@NewYorker) October 1, 2018

xxxxpost Patent protection for health care products and copyright extension are significant, but they don't seem significant to Trudeau cause really they were barely discussed. That these things weren't significant to Trudeau is another debate in the Canadian thread yeah and I agree with you that these lost might be tough to swallow. The big five things Trudeau cared about were: sunset clause, chapter 19, cars, steel/aluminium and dairy. Also, Mexico is still in the deal which is a big plus for both Mexico and Canada. Steel/aluminium seems to be the major concession so far, by virtue of not being resolved.

Anyway, the US are the US, almost ten times the population and economy of Canada, that the status quo was extensively preserved can't be a win for Trump, who promised so much more about the 'bad deal' that was NAFTA.

I hope AMLO refuses to support any deal with Mexico that doesn’t include mutual right to live and work permanently in the other country. Partly because I want to move to Mexico.

Not because I hate America mind I just think it would be fun

If the Dems win both houses in November is there going to be an investigation and an investigation into the previous one. Or is the utter transparency of this being fake gong to speak for itself

this presser on trade is going off the rails quick wow

as ever, Mnuchin auditioning for role of Nazi simp and sidekick in next Indiana Jones movie

Trump to female reporter: "I know you're not thinking, you never do."

Trump: "She's shocked I picked her, she's in a state of shock."
Vega: I'm not, thank you Mr. President.
Trump: "I know you're not thinking, you never do."
Vega: "I'm sorry?"
Trump: "Go ahead" pic.twitter.com/hhfFHDNSXk

— Lis Power (@LisPower1) October 1, 2018

That any woman could vote for him, and this party, is beyond me.

wtf

https://theintercept.com/2018/09/29/the-unbearable-dishonesty-of-brett-kavanaugh/

They supplemented this article with a picture of an old Yale yearbook showing Kavanaugh’s grandfather. Apparently Kav didn’t bust his butt to get in, but had the benefit of being a legacy admission.

he was a legacy: His grandfather, Everett Edward Kavanaugh, also went to Yale for undergrad, as this yearbook shows.

So Trump just went on about having seen some unnamed Democratic Senator in compromising situations and seemed to be threatening to reveal it if this person keeps going after Kavanaugh.

— Paul McLeod (@pdmcleod) October 1, 2018

there's no way he's thinking about anyone in particular here is there

or does he think Al Franken is still in the Senate??

10-d chess, publicly threatening blackmail

LOG OFF AND DRINK YOUR BEER.

It just sometimes seems I haven’t accomplished what I set out to in my ilx career

beer.

lmao

While Treeship's gone, can we start the next thread as "It just sometimes seems I haven’t accomplished what I set out to in my ilx career"

As long as that sentence is recognized and officially notarized as having been a joke

wait I'm confused are ALL your posts jokes or

This has the structure of a nightmare and I’m stepping away

don't bother treesh while he or she should be drinking his or her beer.

I use he/him pronouns. Alright later ✌️

BEER.

all this beer talk has really brought this thread full circle (of hell)

garbage

WSB-TV report: "Sunday at 5 p.m. was an agreed upon date and time from all three campaigns. However, within the past 24 hours, Kemp’s campaign informed us they are unable to make that date and time work. Kemp is attending a rally with President Donald Trump in Macon." pic.twitter.com/JR7R2iJw6X

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) October 31, 2018

shouldn't you all be trick or treating?

I had assumed Ian was drinking with Treeish and Treeish was rudely typing on his phone while Ian was trying to engage in beer drinking.

lol

fwiw seeing "Good mourning!" is as an essential part of my day as coffee

I look forward to it

yerac, you know i hate going out. especially on halloween!

I am currently seeing TV ads for at least three NY House races, the Connecticut governor's race, two NJ House races (but not the guy I'll be voting for, Albio Sires, who might as well be running unopposed) and the NJ Senate race. I cannot wait until one week from today, when we get to find out exactly how much of his own money pharma scumbag Bob Hugin threw down the sewer trying to unseat Bob Menendez, who I freely admit is a crook but who is not going anywhere.

I don't like going out either! How have we been drinking together like dozens of times? answer: we are now old. And you were maybe (just kidding FBI!) underaged.

I like the good mournings because I also use them as bookmarks.

i'm going as Billy from Silent Night Deadly Night to a Halloween party

How have we been drinking together like dozens of times? answer: we are now old

pshaw

If the democrats lose in november it’s because of codescension like this

― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, October 31, 2018

lmaooo

New tidal wave of bullshit from the human bullshit fountain and his latest journalistic enabler/prompter, in this case Jonathan Karl of ABC.

It just sometimes seems I haven’t accomplished what I set out to in my ilx career

on these threads you're the well-meaning poster who swerves wildly between utter despair and iron-clad optimism and grand statements about things of which you know very little. i don't think it's on us to figure out when you're joking

ye are all that poster tbh

was this sorted btw

tbf i skip the iron-clad optimism part

I don't swerve, I wobble

I don't walk, I get carried

Lol ums

icymi Streisand is coming to save us with a political album called Walls

the knicks lost

the sun rises in the east

hardaway played well

"Bob Menendez, who I freely admit is a crook but who is not going anywhere."

NJ needs one of their own to represent them so why not

Is there any chance of a less depressing thread title for November?

US Politics, November 2018: Trump - The Bolsonaro of the Beltway

you knew it was the Knicks, right?

I like when morbs and treesh talk to each other. I play a little game where a take a drink whenever my phone’s entire screen is filled with “[Blocked. Tap to read.]”

good mourning!

oooh Dan I so cuttin edge

(for a coward)

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Dan, I don’t even know who you are. Do you actually know anything about me beyond I seem like someone you can win points by complaining about? xp

Although their respective expressions of such may differ wildly, Treesh and Morbs are too pure for this world (I say with zero snark).

Perfect closing statement.

Mods...?

US Politics, November 2018: "There is no blame. There is no anything."