Monster taniwha disrupts NZ road!

I wouldn't go messing with a taniwha. Just as I wouldn't mess with secret women's business. Or a bunyip. Or a Loch Ness monster.

I say build the highways and briges through churches - at least we know they are bullshit.

yes thats it, only the knowledge and beliefs of white westerners are valid.

Find someone else to annoy with your ignorant feminist crap. Like a drunken termite popping out of the wood work whenever she sees her own liberal ideas being challenged she spews her ignorance and bigioted ideals.

I have Maori blood in me myself. I teach at a school with 85% Maori in an area where the poorest Maori in NZ live. I have a Masters Degree in Resource Management. I at least speak from experienece in working and studying such cases. If you had even an inkling of what happens in EIA reporting and resource management law I might consider explaining the cultural and spiritual problems our country faces in solving resource conflicts.

But you live in text book fantasy world not the real world .Try thinking for yourself for once. You are one disturbed women. Get your head back into your text book you silly bitch and shut the fuck up. Now Im a sexist and racist eh. Good...I know if you hate my guts Im doing something right.

- yay taniwha :-)

i have been away too long to make informed comments.

I think that this line was said by a Catholic has to be one of the great ironies ever!

Crikey, a bit of over-eagerness to appease a minority of the maori population who happen to be fucking morons but get away with fucking it up for the rest of the public on the basis that their skin is a different colour. OH NO, IT CANT BE THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING COMPLETE FUCKING MORONS, IT MUST BE THAT EVERYONE CRITISIZING THEM EVER ARE RACIST.
get over yourself.

I say build the highways and briges through churches - at least we know they are bullshit.

oh ok so casting doubt on religons made up by white people is ok, but not brown people? OMG SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A RACIST! Look at how clever I am by accusing people of being hateful when I am in fact just a complete and utter tosser. YOU CAN DO IT TOO! Oh wait, you just did.

Hooray for the Taniwha! Boo hiss to the road!

seeing as most road-planning is rammed through by dishonest manipulative non-rational means, i think countering it with religion makes good strategic sense => then everyone's on the same page

in the UK we tend to use the threat to rare and unlovely animals or plants, but then we are a far more convincedly pagan/animist nation

http://www.nhl.co.nz/images/taniwha.jpg

Heeeey!
I heard the dandelions roar in Piccadilly Circus
I heard the dandelions roar in Piccadilly Circus
Take a packet of seeds, take yourself out to play
I want to see a river of orchids where we had a motorway

Push your car from the road
Push your car from the road
Just like a mad dog you're chasing your tail in a circle
Just like a mad dog you're chasing your tail in a circle

It's all in your back yard
You've the whole world at your feet
Said the grass is always greener when it bursts up through concrete
Push your car from the road
Push your car from the road

River of orchids winding our way
Want to walk into London on my hands one day
River of orchids the road overgrows
Want to walk into London smelling like a Peckham rose

I had a dream where the car is reduced to a fossil
I had a dream where the car is reduced to a fossil
Take a packet of seeds, take yourself out to play
I want to see a river of orchids where we had a motorway
- Andy P

sorry to be so boring, but i criticized something toraneko said on another thread and i'd hate to think my points are going to be ignored simply because of who i'm arguing with.

(fwiw, i thought kiwi's attack stupid and admire toraneko's restraint)

I dont know, but I imagine you to be a big guy who is used to throwing his weight around and getting what he wants. Your posts cry out for approval from Cambridge to your IQ, from your atheist religious intolerance to your new found girlfriend. Ive met some brown nosers in my time but you are the pick of a pretty desperate bunch.At least you appear to have some decent qualities behind your insecurities, the other two Im not so sure.

Im acting like an arsehole myself with personal attacks ch? Yeah for sure I am, but for some folk its the only thing they understand.
These three have NEVER given me any respect at all, no matter what I say...so fuck em they deserve nothing in return. Ill leave ILX in peace so you can keep deluding your righteous selves. Bye.

For the record I'm 5'7 and have never been in a position to throw my weight around, sadly. Pointing out that someone who keeps saying he is terribly insecure is, in fact, insecure is not terribly insightful.

How smug and self-righteous of you, Martin.

http://www.culttvman.com/swampthing/assets/images/a_swamp4.jpg

I've read that in Iceland they regularly curve roads to avoid spots identified with some mythical fairy-thing or other. Gazza, why does it matter if the thing is real of not? Like human remains: nobody needs them, nobody wants to dig them up and look at them, but the point is that people feel some spiritual connection to a site. Christians wouldn't let you put a highway through Golgotha, and I've never seen a photograph of Christ.

The only way trying to work around Maori interests in this will become problematic is when some clever cynical Maoris seize control of road development with fraudulent Taniwha claims. Since they cleared the highway for safe access past two other Taniwhas, this doesn't seem to be a problem yet.

Since Kiwi has started virtually all the shit that's he's currently bemoaning the final effect of, he gets ZERO sympathy from me. Tough for him. If you can't deal with nastiness and people's lack of respect, don't start behaving nastily and disrespectfully towards folks (and he behaved like a shit long before this thread started.) If I start whining about any random nastiness directed towards me (haha don't worry I won't, but IF I did) I would expect to be treated with an equal lack of compassion.

Alex, you are very funny most of the time, but there are certain issues where you act like a raging tool. This is one of them.

(nb: i'm an atheist. so you can just as easily substitute "green shoes" or "salt peanuts" for "jesus" or "christianity" in the "twunt is a twunt" argument.)

i think kiwi has really strong beliefs and forgets that people on the internet aren't just faceless. i am guilty of this and i think lots of people here are.

for the record, i have maori blood coursing through my veins and i am pleased to find that spiritual beliefs are taken seriously by the nz government, even if it does make some of us look like right wankers by protesting a tad late.

Summers here soon, Ive gotta get out and about and lose that winter beer gut and get off this damn thing.Im not really suited to this online stuff ...as if you hadnt noticed. Have FUN ... I hope someone steps up to the plate for Pearl Jam ;)

ps Auckland crew we should organise a 'fancy a barbie' over summer after new years sometime.you can all abuse me there. See ya

Sorry Nabisco, I think perhaps you have misunderstood me.(I just wanted a nice picture of one, not to prove it wasnt real)

Im all for the Taniwha real or not - I thought this was obvious. Aotearoa needs Taniwha much more than another fuckin motorway.

And my personal disliked motorway (STOP THE EASTERN MOTORWAY) is also situated along a rather nice waterway and I'd be happy if someone don't build it because a taniwha lived there.

Like someone said earlier on, it makes as much sense as the current arguments FOR building the motorway: "well, we planned to do so in the 70s, when all the big cool international cities were building motorways, and never got round to it, so we should do it now, to catch up." Nevermind that many of those big cool cities have massive traffic problems related to misguided construction carried out in the 70s.

I thought the original article did not make it clear that there are often other valid arguments for wishing to halt construction at some of these sites. For instance I thought that the Taniwha near the prison is not just occupying a patch of bare land, but a nearby geothermal area which is pretty special (geologically, ecologically, culturally, etc). So it is not an airy fairy paranormal excuse but a synthesis of many (admittedly non-economic) arguments.

Further, I am sorry that everyone picked on kiwi so he left, poor wee fellow. And I don't think that Toraneko or Di are evil one eyed feminist bitches.