a girl asked me out, should i go ?

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she is sweet and kind and funny, but does have a vulva. yes or no ?

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 19:21 (twenty-three years ago)

i don't judge people by the cars they drive

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 19:24 (twenty-three years ago)

(only by the horrible puns they make.)

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 19:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Be upfront about your orientation, then offer to go do something with her as friends.

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Does she know that you're gay? You should probably make it very clear beforehand. But apart from that, so long as you are both honest about it ... well why not? You never know, it could lead to an interesting friendship.

I'm not gay, but if a sweet and kind and funny lesbian asked me out I'd probably say "well, I'm not usually physically attracted to your gender, but I'm open to exploring the emotional possibilities."

Some might say that was leading the person on. I think leading the person on only comes in if you are dishonest.

kate, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 19:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Kate is OTM all the way. Honesty is the urgent and key thing.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 21:49 (twenty-three years ago)

anthony send her to me!

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 21:52 (twenty-three years ago)

no anthony: i want her. send her over here and I'll send you books on communism and dada!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 22:02 (twenty-three years ago)

anthony how do you know she has a vulva? Have you checked?

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 22:08 (twenty-three years ago)

She keeps it in her purse and shows it to strangers on the bus.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 22:11 (twenty-three years ago)

The reader will be pleased to remember a little muff, which hath had the honour of being more than once remembered already in this history. This muff, ever since the departure of Mr. Jones, had been the constant companion of Sophia by day, and her bedfellow by night; and this muff she had at this very instant upon her arm; whence she took it off with great indignation, and, having writ her name with her pencil upon a piece of paper which she pinned to it, she bribed the maid to convey it into the empty bed of Mr. Jones, in which, if he did not find it, she charged her to take some method of conveying it before his eyes in the morning.

--Henry Fielding, Tom Jones, ch. 96

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 22:15 (twenty-three years ago)

This is starting to remind me of the old straight dope question: what is a merkin?

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 22:54 (twenty-three years ago)

At least she doesn't have a volvo.

Kate speaks wisely. At the very least if you don't tell her she'll think you're an ass, at worst she could be really hurt.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:03 (twenty-three years ago)

is there a need for honesty? perhaps she asked anthony out because she wants to be friends with him. and anyway, she might be a lesbian. its only necessary to spill the beans if she is making it clear that she is physically innarested.

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:24 (twenty-three years ago)

a pap smear is u&k obv.

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Are you by chance interested in her sexually, making this the thread in which you question your own (homo)sexuality...or perhaps I am reading too much into this?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:28 (twenty-three years ago)

anthony, i would advise you to be upfront with her and just go out with her and feel it out.

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:33 (twenty-three years ago)

(her vulva, obv.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:33 (twenty-three years ago)

its a thread where i am questioning my hot wet faggot love. i like her and i could like like her i think. but i worked hard to like boys, and have suffered years of religous guilt all along by people who say i can change, am i just proving them right ?

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:40 (twenty-three years ago)

no you are not proving them right. if you like a girl, it doesn't mean you no longer lick boys.

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:42 (twenty-three years ago)

NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. NO YOU ARE NOT PROVING THEM RIGHT.

heh heh "lick boys."

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:43 (twenty-three years ago)

but if i go this means that my sexuality can change - isnt that fluidity something that fundies talk about ?

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:48 (twenty-three years ago)

fluidity hehe. fundies don't have the monopoly on sexual fluidity.

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:52 (twenty-three years ago)

sure sexuality can change - but you can't force it, which is i think where fundamentalists go wrong.

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:54 (twenty-three years ago)

What are fundies? Fundamentalists? Talk about fluidity? Wha?

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 00:02 (twenty-three years ago)

i assume by "fundies", anthony meant fundamentalist christians. i think he meant how "fundies" often say "oh you just gotta try and be straight" to gay people. one of my friends gets books on "how to be straight" as christmas presents every year from his folx.

di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 00:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Sexuality *IS* fluid. (No jizz jokes here, please, Momus...) Even the gayest man I ever met had a fling with a girl. (Who happened to be MY girlfriend at the time, but that's another story.)

Fundies want to say that homosexuality is an abberation, and they can alter it permanently. When the truth is that sexuality is much more like a continuum, and that continuum can flux with time, emotion, opportunity, the "right person in the wrong body" and everything else.

It's fundamentalist of anyone to rule something out purely on principle. If you feel like you want to try it, then try it. Just be honest with the girl involved about what she's getting into.

kate, Wednesday, 6 November 2002 00:16 (twenty-three years ago)

"Even the gayest man I ever met had a fling with a girl."

I wish I had this information before!

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 00:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey! To clarify, I don't mean "Any gay man is bendable" because that is not true at all, and I know dozens of brokenhearted fag hag girls who have had their emotions mangled over it.

All I am trying to say is that sexuality either way is not as set in stone as people like to say. The STRAIGHTEST man I ever met, my ex boyfriend, confessed to enjoyed practising kissing with his male best friend while a teenager, so there you go.

Please don't misunderstand me on this topic, cause it can get into all sorts of trouble... what I'm trying to say is that it's perfectly normal to want to experiment outside of one's preferred sexual orientation - it does not necessarily negate that orientation.

Understand?

kate, Wednesday, 6 November 2002 00:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, it's OK, I was joking (sort of)!

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 00:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Anothony- If it feels right for you- do it. Maybe she likes eggnog!!

brg30 (brg30), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 00:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Anthony- If it feels right for you- do it. Maybe she likes eggnog!!

brg30 (brg30), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 00:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Anthony: If it feels right for you- do it. Maybe she likes eggnog!!

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 01:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Anthony: If it feels wearable- shoe fit. Maybe she likes a good snog!

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 01:58 (twenty-three years ago)

movies tonite, i move like a mother fucking panther.

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 02:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Who knows the secrets of the human heart?

Dickon Edwards (Dickon Edwards), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 02:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I do. It's not that interesting, really. It reads like Chaucer, though.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 02:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, rather Chaucer than Mrs Gaskell.

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 02:33 (twenty-three years ago)

go anthong!

di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 03:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd say go for it, absolutely, no question...except that I'm not totally sure what I'd do if a guy asked me out.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 03:21 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, but at least girls are cool

ron (ron), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:16 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, at least.

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:18 (twenty-three years ago)

rainy!

di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:25 (twenty-three years ago)

howdy!

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:27 (twenty-three years ago)

leah, at yeast.

ron (ron), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:27 (twenty-three years ago)

LEER AT BEAST

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:29 (twenty-three years ago)

wo ist das rainberg?

di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:35 (twenty-three years ago)

(b)

ron (ron), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Help, I'm a prisoner in the (central) library! Only don't rescue me as I have so much work to do I can nearly SEE through TIME!

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:38 (twenty-three years ago)

i can see you. (sorry anthony, this doesn't help)

di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:40 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't see you, my eyes are starting to conk out.

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:42 (twenty-three years ago)

btw I think Anthony should go on the date. What's the worst that could happen?

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:43 (twenty-three years ago)

He could be overcome with blind rage, and sever his penis with a butter knife.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:49 (twenty-three years ago)

an old, dull, rusty one!

ron (ron), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:50 (twenty-three years ago)

oh.

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 04:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Such madness! Just go to Arc and drink coffee.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 06:13 (twenty-three years ago)

ned, if only!

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 06:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Some people say that I'm a bad guy They may be right
They may be right But it's not as if I don't try I just fuck up Try as I might
But I can change, I can change I can learn to keep my promises I swear
it. I'll open up my heart And I will share it Any minute now I will be born
again Yes, I can change, I can change I know I've been a dirty little
bastard I like to kill, I like to maim Yes, I'm insane, but it's OK Cause I
can change It's not my fault that I'm so evil It's society, society You see
my parents were sometimes abusive And it made a prick of me But I can
change, I can change I can learn to keep my promises I know it. I'll open
up my heart And I will show it Any minute now I will be born again
Satan The Dark Prince: But what if you never change? What if you remain
a sandy little butt-hole?
Saddam Hussein: Hey Satan Don't be such a twit Mother Theresa won't
have shit on me. Just watch Just watch me change Here I go I'm changing
Hey Satan!

Queen G (Queeng), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 13:09 (twenty-three years ago)


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