Free Citizens Vote: The Reconstruction Amendments to the US Constitution

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13th, pros: abolishes slavery, that Spielberg movie; cons: except as a punishment for crime, which is a pretty big exception it turns out
14th, pros: birthright citizenship! Due process! Equal protection under the law! cons: Article 3 didn't help much? Others?
15th, pros: nice and simple, voting's great; cons: could've rolled in women's suffrage but didn't; turns out to be difficult to enforce the plain meaning of this amendment to the point of the VRA being gutted.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Fourteenth Amendment 7
Thirteenth Amendment 1
Fifteenth Amendment 1


I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 21:27 (six years ago)

good poll!

we should poll the two amendments that almost made it into the bill of rights but failed to be ratified by the states in time, too

mh, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 22:03 (six years ago)

I feel like the 14th is actually maybe the bigger deal historically speaking but idk 13th was such a huuuuuge necessary corrective anybody who doesn't vote for it is gonna kinda look like a jerk

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 22:11 (six years ago)

what if I have to vote against it to spite Dr. Morbius because silby put "Spielberg" in there?

I kid, I kid

mh, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 22:13 (six years ago)

anybody who doesn't vote for it is gonna kinda look like a jerk

not when there's a secret ballot

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 22:14 (six years ago)

Shakey I think you're right and I think there's a non-jerky way to vote that way too, in that the 14th indisputably enacts one of America's two good ideas, birthright citizenship, and introduces what was almost a trojan horse of a radical constitutional provision in the equal protection clause, whereas the 13th was simply the initial undoing of a great evil, almost a bare minimum step.

Norm’s Superego (silby), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 22:27 (six years ago)

Would love to know if women's suffrage campaigners made noise about the 15th amendment, if anyone has a good read to share

Norm’s Superego (silby), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 22:28 (six years ago)

just anecdotally a few years I was going through abolitionist photos portraits/bios and it was interesting to see references to ideological splits that hadn't occurred to me - women who were vocal abolitionists being pissed that universal suffrage wasn't going to include women, arguing about whether they should support such proposals etc. I didn't read any primary texts though, this was all sort of incidental and I don't recall if this was in the context of the 15th amendment specifically

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 22:43 (six years ago)

five months pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 4 July 2019 00:01 (five years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 5 July 2019 00:01 (five years ago)

five years pass...

Not sure where to post this but I’m a 45 year old man raised in the southeast and am just learning about the Wilmington , NC coup.

Heez, Saturday, 12 April 2025 01:52 (one month ago)

Thank god for PBS: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/american-coup-wilmington-1898/

Heez, Saturday, 12 April 2025 01:54 (one month ago)


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