Donald Judd: Classic or Dud

Classic for sure. I have this book and recommend it unequivocally.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/538e3197e4b07de501bf9cf0/53d92fdfe4b006d75f3cce67/582605a55016e1341fb61fed/1478886823418/Judd-Writings-front-cover.jpg?format=500w

That’s the one I was thinking of reading. There were some free copies floating around my office but they got snatched up.

a lot of minimalism excites me but with d.j. i'm just like yawwwwn

i feel like he was destined to be big in a specific moment but hasn't aged well

It seems like the theoretical aspects of his work and his dialogue with the art of the time was central to the whole enterprise. I haven’t been to Marfa, admittedly, but the stuff I have seen hasn’t excited me. I’m ok with art that is really about ideas though—that’s not a criticism necessarily

super classic

judd > fried

art is a competition

i re-read art and objecthood and specific objects last fall shortly before going to london where at the tates - modern and britain respectively - there were pieces by judd and caro (who fried sort of sets up against judd as what sculpture should be). that period of art - and the conceptualism that immediately follows it is my favourite era in modern art history.

the one criticism i would have of judd - and fried - is that sometimes their arguments seem very peremptory and quite arbitrary.

i feel like he was destined to be big in a specific moment but hasn't aged well

my take on it is that the points (and some of his contemporaries) were making have been so thoroughly absorbed into the conventional wisdom around contemporary art that they seem passé

like you can't imagine, say, james turrell without minimalism, turrell is tired now, so judd seems tired by extension i guess

the points he*

specific objects is amazing

i am reminded that hal foster has written some good stuff about the relationship between judd and fried

oh, cool, that sounds up my alley

you could start at ch 2 of "return of the real"

Saw a great Brancusi/Judd exhibition at Tate Modern in 2004 - it's a cliche, but you need to experience Judd's works in a space to really appreciate their tactile, visual pleasures.

xp. reading it now!

this thread should definitely be called Donald Judd: Classic or Judd

I saw a show at SFMOMA years ago where Judd’s work was exhibited in multiple rooms along with Dan Flavin fluorescent sculptures and Carl Andre floor pieces. They were almost exact contemporaries, and I remember thinking that they all had a similar sense of sculpture, a pared-down rational aesthetic

lol jim

i really like donald judd. i would love to get the book unperson posted way above. actually, on my last day at my temp job, earlier today, i was given a $200 gift card so maybe i'll splurge on it!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P8TDDfHU4AE

Where do I start

http://s3.amazonaws.com/juddfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/12120633/SpecificObjects_Writings_DonaldJudd.pdf

always found that essay very strange. It seems to me that it borrows so many of its claims, about the epistemic roots of formal conventions, from theatre or performance. yet ritual, stage, theatre or performance are never mentioned despite having a more coherently articulable history of "specificity" and encounter than one could really argue for wrt esp painting with its traditions of narrative, decoration, etc.

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books are cheap, treezy

I like the shiny stuff. The stuff made of plywood just looks like crap made of plywood.

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Classic or Judd

huge missed opportunity

https://judd.furniture/

Don Judd designed furniture in wood and metal for which he maintained a small distribution. He addressed furniture and design in his writings, most notably in the essay ‘It’s Hard to Find a Good Lamp’ for the Donald Judd Furniture: Retrospective exhibition at Museum Boymans-van Beuningen. He explained and defended his thinking on design and furniture, defining his approach to proportion and scale, fabrication, and exhibition.

The furniture continues to be made to his original specifications, stamped and numbered sequentially. The wood furniture, in a variety of hardwood and color plywood, continues to be made in the United States. The metal furniture, in painted aluminum colors, anodized aluminum, brass, and copper, continues to be made in Switzerland.

Over 70 of his designs are available for custom order. The Pine Library Stool 42, Corner Chair 15 in clear anodized aluminum, and Forward Slant Plywood Chair 84 in black are available in stock.

(for people who want their butts to hurt more)

https://i.imgur.com/cnI1lAw.jpg

it IS

hard to fine a good lamp

^d

Judd, Andre, Flavin, I love seeing their stuff together

https://judd.furniture/wp-content/uploads/8ft-Bench-11-550x355.jpg

I voted classic, but anyone who's willing to pay $5,400 for this bench is a tool.

There's a lot of stuff like this in Marfa at the various Judd spaces, it's pretty (in context) but uncomfortable. Most of it you're not allowed to sit on anyway.

i saw a very unattractive loveseat in a furniture store near my apartment for $3000 yesterday. rich people will spend that money of theirs