Is the Earth round or flat?

The belief that the earth is flat and the belief that the earth is round are not, of necessity, mutually exclusive beliefs.

That’s what I’m talking about. Let’s start the great debate

The earth is a great coin, eternally flipping its way through the cosmos.

heads!

if i may, i think the earth is 'phat' - particularly hospitable and temperate! 😊😜

Can’t wait to poll all the other conspiracies

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lol esby

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02972/map_2972003d.jpg

isaac asimov's essay on this subject is one of my favorites:

https://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm

it's flat *and* it's hollow

Friend's partner is apparently "keeping an open mind on the subject". I'm not very keen on this development, as it will inevitably lead on to the hard stuff like anti-vaxx. Maybe I should try and convince her it's triangular?

Bravo, who repeatedly claimed to be "crazy" throughout the exchange to diffuse Rogan's counter-arguments, suggested that people are more easily controlled if they believe they're standing on a "ball" as opposed to a flat surface.

"You're on a ball," he said. "You're nowhere. Don't try to go anywhere. Just stay there and work."

It's cool when the explications are as encephalitic as the belief itself.

I love this planet and her curvy body. As a teenager, I was often teased by my friends for my attraction to celestial bodies on the thicker side, ones who were shorter and curvier, planets that the average (basic) bro might refer to as "chubby" or even "fat." Then, as I became a man and started to educate myself on issues such as geology and how the media marginalizes planets by portraying a very narrow and very specific standard of beauty (thin, tall, lean) I realized how many men have bought into that lie. For me, there is nothing sexier than this planet right here: thick equator, big mountains, cute little hillocks, etc. Her shape and size won't be the one featured on the cover of National Geographic but it's the one featured in my life and in my heart. There's nothing sexier to me than a world who is both curvy and confident; this gorgeous planet I married fills out every inch of her coasts and is still the most beautiful one in the room. Guys, rethink what society has told you that you should desire. A real planet is not an asteroid or a moonlet or a comet. She's real. She has beautiful stretch marks on her calderas and cute little dimples on her canyons. Planets, don't ever fool yourself by thinking you have to fit a certain mold to be loved and appreciated. There is a guy out there who is going to celebrate you for exactly who you are, someone who will love you like I love my Earth.

xpost And when you have to use the word 'ball' because 'sphere' somehow never made it into your 75-word vocabulary.

the earth is locally flat

lol i think bravo's argument is actually quite subtle and clever -- it's basically the symbo;list geometrisation of an anti-globalist anti-new-world-order argument, that if there's just one system you run from it and being on the surface of a ball makes "globalisation" more likely, which it's bad

(an infinite flat surface could support an infinity of systems without requiring conflict resolution or absorption, but a globe eventually leads to one system absorbing all the others) (i don't know if this is true but it's not an intrinsically ridiculous claim)

the bad logic comes at the next step, that things that are bad must just have been invented to oppress us

I like to play peek-a-boo with flat earthers by sailing around the world and taking advantage of their undeveloped notion of object permanence. It delights them every time.

ugh sorry, "if there's just one system you CAN'T run from it"

Waaaaaiit...do flat earthers believe that the earth is both flat and spatially infinite?!? Surely not.

That would be too frickin' adorable for words.

more easily controlled if they believe they're standing on a "ball" as opposed to a flat surface

bravo doesn't, he thinks they're distinct things, that's the basis of his argument

That actually makes sense mark. Fantasy epics like Lord of the Rings always presuppose a flat world—there are always unknown regions at the borders you could venture into.

stripped of my many confusing typos it makes slightly more sense

it's also connected to the old idea that the round earth hypothesis took away man's sense of himself at the center of existence, and that this had all kinds of subtle effects on culture

Every Copernican revolution has largely had good effects on human behavior. When noble white men were the apex of God's creation, they shat on the rest. Now they're living in a location that is in most cases not special, just a tendril of a branch of the tree of Earth bound evolution, where all races, species, and phyla are similarly adapted to their niche; on a habitable zone planet about a nondescript mid-aged G2 star, far from the center of the galaxy, or near the center of exciting things in the observable universe. Those that have accommodated themselves to this don't commit genocide nearly as frequently as their forebears did.

Those that have accommodated themselves to this don't commit genocide nearly as frequently as their forebears did.

Needs citation.

I mean, individuals who have fully internalized these accepted scientific observations don't commit genocide, but individuals commit murder and only social groups commit genocide. afaics, humans still form tribal identities even in the face of astronomical or biological science. Most historically attested genocides occurred after Copernicus, and tbf genocide doesn't appear to have slackened all that much since Darwin. But it is a nice idea and I hope you are somehow correct in your conclusion and I just can't see it.

half sphere earthers represent

https://i.imgur.com/c7tXUyG.jpg

The belief that the earth is flat and the belief that the earth is round are not, of necessity, mutually exclusive beliefs.

Genocide actually increased post-Darwin, Aimless otm

if the earth is round, how come it doesn't bounce very high?

lol i think bravo's argument is actually quite subtle and clever -- it's basically the symbo;list geometrisation of an anti-globalist anti-new-world-order argument, that if there's just one system you run from it and being on the surface of a ball makes "globalisation" more likely, which it's bad

(an infinite flat surface could support an infinity of systems without requiring conflict resolution or absorption, but a globe eventually leads to one system absorbing all the others) (i don't know if this is true but it's not an intrinsically ridiculous claim)

the bad logic comes at the next step, that things that are bad must just have been invented to oppress us

― mark s, Friday, June 7, 2019 3:27 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So glad I clicked on this thread

i'm always glad when you click on threads flappy

flap-earther

Flat, duh.

FAP Earth

Flat-eartherism like most conspiracy theories is sublimated antisemitism

as a bird i can tell you this- we live in a society

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it’s flat

Flat as yo ass

It's flap.

The earth is not "flat". It is not "round". It is roughly spherical with some minor pear-shaped abnormalities.

I think the accounts of the earth's non-roundness are exaggerated. "the distance from Earth's center to sea level is roughly 21 kilometers (13 miles) greater at the equator than at the poles". That is not much

Classically speaking, the sphere is a Euclidian solid, abstractly devoid of all imperfections. But I think we are in basic agreement.

The Earth is thicc

lol

The surface of the Earth is shaped like the outside of a taco shell.

Die Erde ist rund

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a torus is round. so is a discus. so is a hoop.

the earth is a flat square (and we live on the inside)

Like a Fudge Round

It's a Ringworld.

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Well thank god that's sorted

We really ought to change the name of the Bonneville Salt Flats. It's misleading.

Buncha jokers voting for round, come on.

Thomas Friedman, ILX lurker

the earth is thicc

Flatness is an area in which the Earth excels.

https://www.marca.com/en/football/spanish-football/2019/06/29/5d17aa04268e3ecb4f8b458d.html

Flat Earth FC,now in the Spanish 4th division

Good luck to them in the next flat.

https://www.marca.com/en/football/spanish-football/2019/06/29/5d17aa04268e3ecb4f8b458d.html

Flat Earth FC,now in the Spanish 4th division

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CF_Fuenlabrada_Promesas_Madrid_2021

Flat Earth FC have rebranded as Club de Fútbol Fuenlabrada Promesas Madrid 2021

I was going to ask if anyone was coming across flat earth stuff more, I feel like its been increasingly rapidly (from an admittedly tiny position), but in Madrid at least it seems to have hit something of a stumbling block

round imo

too early to tell

we must first define our terms, what is "flat" and "round" and "earth" in this context

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earth is round, but space is flat

stop bodyshaming Earth

hi j.lu, hi zach, hi Neanderthal! 🌸

It's a D12

One thing that’s nice about the flat earth is I can wave at cat, and no matter how far away we are, we can clearly see each other as long as one of us is on a ladder!

who says we're even really on earth anyway? the nerdy pinko eggheads up in their ivied ivory towers? pshaw!

this 'ringwoodite' stuff is fascinating, found in some meteorites and 400 miles into the earth's crust and at extreme temperature and pressure it is porous and apparently holds a vast underground ocean. Not in liquid nor gas form, apparently at such depths the water molecules split. Fuck knows this is very confusing.

Rudy Rucker eventually adjusted his dope The Hollow Earth to fit with the sequel, later they were published in this one vol.

"The Hollow Earth" is a classic work of American steampunk. In 1836, our seventeen-year-old narrator Mason Reynolds leaves his father's Virginia farm with the black Otha. He befriends the dissolute Edgar Allan Poe, and they fall through a thousand-mile-deep hole in the ice of Antarctica. Within the Hollow Earth, Mason woos and wins Seela, who lives upon a giant flower. At the earth’s the core he finds a sky-surfing tribe known as the black gods—and a cluster of giant, god-like sea cucumbers known as woomo. Mason, Seela, and Poe make their way out through the crust and back to Earth. But due to their time in the strong light of the woomo, their skins are black. And then they encounter Poe’s double... "Return to the Hollow Earth" is Rucker’s second steampunk novel featuring Mason Reynolds. In 1850, Mason and his wife Seela embark upon a perilous trip around Cape Horn to San Francisco. Their ship sinks, but they're saved by a tentacled, flying nautilus—who carries them to meet Edgar Allan Poe. Poe leads them on a return voyage to the Hollow Earth, passing through the throat of a thousand-mile-deep maelstrom at the North Pole. Within the Hollow Earth, they learn that the god-like woomo sea cucumbers mean to send them them on a epic mission across space and time. The initial stage of this mission brings them to modern-day Santa Cruz, California. This 2021 edition supersedes all previous versions of "The Hollow Earth" and "Return to the Hollow Earth."

Picked up a book about the history of th idea of the Hollow Earth yesterday. Not sure how good it is but seemed interesting to have the various forms in one place.