the jeffrey epstein memorial poll and conspiracy-mongering thread

Let's roll

To quote Antonin Artaud, he was suicided by society, just like Van Gogh.

Mood. pic.twitter.com/9rSn0Kn1KP

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) August 10, 2019

If he’d been allowed to live, he might have revealed that Bill Clinton may have committed sexual misconduct, which would have been truly damaging to the Clinton legacy.

Anyway, I voted for 'other': he's safe and sound, tucked away in a paradisiacal underground mansion, at a stone's throw from the earth's molten core.

No 12 ft lizard option - no credibility

Do I legitimately think he was whacked? Not really, I feel like people powerful enough to kill someone in federal custody could have made it look like a stroke or heart attack or something.

Do I think he definitely could have been whacked? Absolutely. Is it worth playing with to further highlight that he was bros with 50% of the last 4 Presidents and a ton of rich assholes. Also absolutely.

If he’d been allowed to live, he might have revealed that Bill Clinton may have committed sexual misconduct, which would have been truly damaging to the Clinton legacy.

I'm not one of those The Clintons Did It ppl but I hope we can all understand that what's alleged to have taken place on Epstein's place and elsewhere goes well beyond what Bill's been previously accused of

I think it's likely there was some intervention in his death.

Not only Clinton would've potentially been implicated in child trafficking,sex slavery and rape but also Dershowitz,Ehud Barak, Prince Andrew, and various influential figures in finance,business etc.

You know those murder mysteries where, as you read the first 40 pages, you discover that the corpse was at first thought to have committed suicide, but the circumstances arouse the suspicion of the canny detective (who is the hero of the book) and, upon investigation, the hero quickly finds at least a dozen people who had strong motives to murder the victim and all of them express open delight or relief in the victim's death? Yeah, this is kinda like that, am I right?

Epstein and Pac, jammin’ in Samoa.

one for the "grain of salt" files

https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/former-mcc-inmate-theres-no-way-jeffrey-epstein-killed-himself/

^ Premise of that article is that Epstein would not have been able to hang himself, stab himself, or bludgeon himself in that unit. It says nothing about, oh, let's say an overdose of fentanyl obtained from a guard for a small cash consideration.

Voted "other" — dude absolutely faked his suicide and was whisked to freedom.

Lol dudez

He hanged himself xp

as a supporter of the ‘what if his head just... did that’ explanation of jfk’s death, i believe we should give serious credence to the thought that epstein’s neck just... did that

People have spontaneous neck implosions every year, they’re just not widely reported

Of course...

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ? Yeah right! How does that happen#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead

I see #TrumpBodyCount trending but we know who did this!

RT if you’re not Surprised#EpsteinSuicide #ClintonBodyCount #ClintonCrimeFamily pic.twitter.com/Y9tGAWaAxX

— Terrence K. Williams (@w_terrence) August 10, 2019

^^Retweeted by Yam.

I guess he's....not surprised

He also retweeted a post about Clinton's trips to the island.

I said this on the main politics thread, but his frothing desire to see the Clintons get theirs by any means possible, even if it means spotlighting a case he's been named in repeatedly, really highlights just how special his brain is

went with "(other)" because i feel like automatic "no way, no conspiracy, nothing to see here folks, move on pls!" talk is just as irresponsible, in its way, as "CLINTON BODY COUNT STRIKES AGAIN" shit.

i think epstein committed suicide and the fact that he wasn't being adequately monitored was due to gross negligence and not conspiracy

^^^^

if it were just about anyone else I'd definitely agree with you

either killed or "other"

I'm somewhere between 'gross negligence' and 'allowed/encouraged' to do it '

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ?

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

Negligence or guards just not giving a fuck. As I said on the other thread, some of the most infamous murderers in UK history, who you would expect would be watched extra carefully, have hung themselves in their cells.

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

the latter is the case apparently, why he was taken off is an open question

Yeah - he was on suicide watch w/accompanying psychiatric interviews & whatnot for a while, they decided he wasn’t suicidal, and six days later he killed himself. Ppl framing it like “they conveniently gave him the means to kill himself” like he’s Frank Pentangeli from The Godfather I guess can’t conceive of a committed suicidal person biding their time, keeping up appearances, and not raising any red flags until they’re sure they can get away with it.

It’s an “open question” only as much as you believe that mental health diagnosis and treatment in our nations esteemed prison system is foolproof, which if you do, that must be a nice way to live.

I...do not think that. I just think the particular circumstances (both how high-profile the case is and how suicide-proofed the facility is meant to be, still waiting for a contradictory take on the MCC) are sus

"Don't worry about anything, Jeffrey Epstein."
"Thanks, Alan--thanks."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U89DzP8NGM4

conspiracy doesn't apply here

it's thunderingly obvious what essentially happened

Hillary used her ninja training to sneak into his cell and defeat him?

i'm sure at a minimum JE was advised that "a Whitey Bulger" awaited him

Whitey Bulger lasted a lot longer.

u guys do recall that Trump and the Clintons were pals for a couple decades, right?

Welp

assuming that d’angelo barksdale clip will get some mileage

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ?

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

yeah, it's hard to watch. hasn't it been confirmed that he was recently taken off of suicide watch? i for one cannot believe trump wouldn't factcheck the people he retweets

lol

have you seen photos of the body? it’s obviously not him. my guess is, epstein’s on a private plane to somewhere in the middle east getting prepped for plastic surgery right now #EpsteinBodyDouble

— Foster The People (@fosterthepeople) August 11, 2019

Pumped Up Epps

who killed j epstein?

http://powet.tv/powetblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/robert_hegyes_as_juan_epstein_in_welcome_back_kotter.jpg

I knew this storyline felt like a retread

Remember when the Panama Papers revealed global level finance crimes and the only thing that happened was that the journalist who released them got killed?

— Joe Biden retire, bitch (@YourFriendCrud) August 10, 2019

who even remembers at this point that the paradise papers followed that, to even less impact

well it is normal then, lol.

There was a Jewish/Lithuanian WW2 emigree, who became a leading textile industry magnate in the UK and Labour peer - Lord Kagan. I know he was a wrong un on a level much lower than than Maxwell, but I'd imagine he would have been embarrassed to be caught with fake books. My brother's bf's sister was shagging him in the 80's and there was neer mention of fake books!

_this nonsense can't have been normal back in the mid 20th century_

People have been buying decorative books for as long as there have been big houses with space to fill.

If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to.

every time I'm skint till the 10th of this month, I need to remind myself - these people who support this system are not people in any way like us.

A funny detail about Maxwell was that he had huge bookcases full of fake blank book that were just props.

Funnier detail is that he had cupboards full of Heinz salad cream, even in the bathroom.

adding a string from Maxwell to the John Heinz plane crash on my board

Hi all, sorry for my meltdown here yesterday. I think the situation in the US over the last 6 months has not been great for my mental health. It often feels like shouting into the void where no level of outrage is sufficient. I know everyone here is doing their best to get by, and we all need to get along to move forward.

Amen to that. It's been bad for everyone, and looks like it's gonna be bad for a good while. But hey at least we have Trump-Epstein memes to entertain us.

No worries Moodles. I'm right there with you on that, and I wish I hadn't made an idiotic comment that came across like I was undermining your outrage or defending that evil asshole.

You didn't do anything wrong, I shouldn't have snapped at you.

https://i.imgur.com/TYuXkXS.png

for historians

lol Dershowitz

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You couldn’t get me to go public with my fight with a pierogi vendor at the farmers market if my life depended on it. How humiliating

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/alan-dershowitz-lawsuit-farmers-market-over-pierogi-denial.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/31/virginia-giuffre-epstein-documents-family

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-jail-video-investigation/

i dont think fake books in homes is too normal, hiring someone to get you a bunch of used books is obvs the move, the blank books prob just appealed to maxwell because he was a master of intrigue

Fake books are coming back into fashion for Instagram / TikTok, etc backgrounds.

Maxwell probably got a bunch of blanks printed up by McMillan to match his colour scheme.

A bookstore in my previous city of residence used to sell books by the yard for instant decoration.

basically anyone who just uses books for decoration needs to be taxed into oblivion

blanks are quite handy if you have the type of terrible friends that never return a book you lend them, but otherwise I'm absolutely mystified that this is a thing. Mind you I still have a Geoff Dyer novel that a tutor lent me in 1991. It was shit and I still never finished it, lol.

they should at least go full Gatsby and stock up on uncut first editions

The blank book thing also strikes me as cowardice. Like you want to be photographed in your rich guy library but you don't want the spine of some out of fashion book to be visible.

if us poor folks who lack the space and expendables to maintain more than a modest bookshelf, got hard drives with gigs worth of blank audiobooks/textfiles for some kind of clout. We'd get sectioned!

Fake books are coming back into fashion for Instagram / TikTok, etc backgrounds.

― ShariVari, Friday, August 1, 2025 9:41 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

wld be fun to do one where theyre diagonal or whatever obvs fake

basically anyone who just uses books for decoration needs to be taxed into oblivion

Those books would otherwise be dumped in landfills.

if you got deliberately shit fake books like for example something by David Baddiel, minor Tory MP autobiographies, the entire print oeuvre of Jordan Peterson or whatever. This could actually be amusing.

xpost nevertheless

i've worked for orgs with otherwise pretty good politics and they will use books by the foot or some similar sort of staging service for decoration and most of that crap is absolutely jordan peterson/newt gingrich/hudson news castoffs

heh heh, shit!

conversely, the closest IKEA had loads of a rather rare book in one of its staged rooms, and they refused to sell even one copy to a bookseller friend of mind ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How rare could it be if there were loads of them?

well, like 20 copies. you’d be surprised! books that were mostly pulped can become cult classics, and a stray box or two that survive can make someone a mint.

went to a restaurant once where the decor wasn't just books by the pound/foot but books that had been trimmed down so they were just the spine and the first 3/4" of innards, so they could be placed on the wall while not taking up any space.

I've worked in advertising/retail though where buying books from these places, usually by color, is a standard practice.

a stray box or two that survive can make someone a mint.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/BelleAndSebastianTigermilk.jpg

Robert Maxwell's collection of Scottish indie pop was also notorious.

big crooked man loved his Vaselines bootlegs!

DOJ already doing special favors for Ghislaine

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/01/epstein-accomplice-ghislaine-maxwell-moved-prisons/85475060007/

Disconcerting that they keep printing that photo of the young Ghislaine Maxwell... with George "Tired and Emotional" Brown, do they think that's Robert Maxwell? Sitting on his knee too by the looks of it!

George Brown... now there was a character...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Brown_(British_Labour_politician)

speaking of imagery, i have been loving all the jane rosenberg sketches of these degenerates

xp they identify him as george brown in the caption so i guess no

Ah I didn't click the photo!

shocked! well, not that shocked

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-08-01/epstein-files-trump-s-name-was-redacted-by-the-fbi

that releasing the documents ‘would not be appropriate or warranted.'

Nothing to see here, Rogan, move along

The corruption of this administration in just six months has been staggering.

xxpost That's cool. When we see the documents we can just assume any blacked out name is Trump's.

I love that they think they can just make it all go away

Mueller She Wrote claims that Maxwell couldn't have been transferred to a low-security prison without having her sex offender status waived. Haven't seen this confirmed anywhere, so we'll see if it turns out to be true.

(xp) What makes you think they can't?

hasn't happened so far

I once received a package at my apartment that was a book with a square cut out of the middle with meth in it.

Was it a copy of On The Road?