the jeffrey epstein memorial poll and conspiracy-mongering thread

Let's roll

To quote Antonin Artaud, he was suicided by society, just like Van Gogh.

Mood. pic.twitter.com/9rSn0Kn1KP

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) August 10, 2019

If he’d been allowed to live, he might have revealed that Bill Clinton may have committed sexual misconduct, which would have been truly damaging to the Clinton legacy.

Anyway, I voted for 'other': he's safe and sound, tucked away in a paradisiacal underground mansion, at a stone's throw from the earth's molten core.

No 12 ft lizard option - no credibility

Do I legitimately think he was whacked? Not really, I feel like people powerful enough to kill someone in federal custody could have made it look like a stroke or heart attack or something.

Do I think he definitely could have been whacked? Absolutely. Is it worth playing with to further highlight that he was bros with 50% of the last 4 Presidents and a ton of rich assholes. Also absolutely.

If he’d been allowed to live, he might have revealed that Bill Clinton may have committed sexual misconduct, which would have been truly damaging to the Clinton legacy.

I'm not one of those The Clintons Did It ppl but I hope we can all understand that what's alleged to have taken place on Epstein's place and elsewhere goes well beyond what Bill's been previously accused of

I think it's likely there was some intervention in his death.

Not only Clinton would've potentially been implicated in child trafficking,sex slavery and rape but also Dershowitz,Ehud Barak, Prince Andrew, and various influential figures in finance,business etc.

You know those murder mysteries where, as you read the first 40 pages, you discover that the corpse was at first thought to have committed suicide, but the circumstances arouse the suspicion of the canny detective (who is the hero of the book) and, upon investigation, the hero quickly finds at least a dozen people who had strong motives to murder the victim and all of them express open delight or relief in the victim's death? Yeah, this is kinda like that, am I right?

Epstein and Pac, jammin’ in Samoa.

one for the "grain of salt" files

https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/former-mcc-inmate-theres-no-way-jeffrey-epstein-killed-himself/

^ Premise of that article is that Epstein would not have been able to hang himself, stab himself, or bludgeon himself in that unit. It says nothing about, oh, let's say an overdose of fentanyl obtained from a guard for a small cash consideration.

Voted "other" — dude absolutely faked his suicide and was whisked to freedom.

Lol dudez

He hanged himself xp

as a supporter of the ‘what if his head just... did that’ explanation of jfk’s death, i believe we should give serious credence to the thought that epstein’s neck just... did that

People have spontaneous neck implosions every year, they’re just not widely reported

Of course...

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ? Yeah right! How does that happen#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead

I see #TrumpBodyCount trending but we know who did this!

RT if you’re not Surprised#EpsteinSuicide #ClintonBodyCount #ClintonCrimeFamily pic.twitter.com/Y9tGAWaAxX

— Terrence K. Williams (@w_terrence) August 10, 2019

^^Retweeted by Yam.

I guess he's....not surprised

He also retweeted a post about Clinton's trips to the island.

I said this on the main politics thread, but his frothing desire to see the Clintons get theirs by any means possible, even if it means spotlighting a case he's been named in repeatedly, really highlights just how special his brain is

went with "(other)" because i feel like automatic "no way, no conspiracy, nothing to see here folks, move on pls!" talk is just as irresponsible, in its way, as "CLINTON BODY COUNT STRIKES AGAIN" shit.

i think epstein committed suicide and the fact that he wasn't being adequately monitored was due to gross negligence and not conspiracy

^^^^

if it were just about anyone else I'd definitely agree with you

either killed or "other"

I'm somewhere between 'gross negligence' and 'allowed/encouraged' to do it '

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ?

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

Negligence or guards just not giving a fuck. As I said on the other thread, some of the most infamous murderers in UK history, who you would expect would be watched extra carefully, have hung themselves in their cells.

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

the latter is the case apparently, why he was taken off is an open question

Yeah - he was on suicide watch w/accompanying psychiatric interviews & whatnot for a while, they decided he wasn’t suicidal, and six days later he killed himself. Ppl framing it like “they conveniently gave him the means to kill himself” like he’s Frank Pentangeli from The Godfather I guess can’t conceive of a committed suicidal person biding their time, keeping up appearances, and not raising any red flags until they’re sure they can get away with it.

It’s an “open question” only as much as you believe that mental health diagnosis and treatment in our nations esteemed prison system is foolproof, which if you do, that must be a nice way to live.

I...do not think that. I just think the particular circumstances (both how high-profile the case is and how suicide-proofed the facility is meant to be, still waiting for a contradictory take on the MCC) are sus

"Don't worry about anything, Jeffrey Epstein."
"Thanks, Alan--thanks."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U89DzP8NGM4

conspiracy doesn't apply here

it's thunderingly obvious what essentially happened

Hillary used her ninja training to sneak into his cell and defeat him?

i'm sure at a minimum JE was advised that "a Whitey Bulger" awaited him

Whitey Bulger lasted a lot longer.

u guys do recall that Trump and the Clintons were pals for a couple decades, right?

Welp

assuming that d’angelo barksdale clip will get some mileage

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ?

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

yeah, it's hard to watch. hasn't it been confirmed that he was recently taken off of suicide watch? i for one cannot believe trump wouldn't factcheck the people he retweets

lol

have you seen photos of the body? it’s obviously not him. my guess is, epstein’s on a private plane to somewhere in the middle east getting prepped for plastic surgery right now #EpsteinBodyDouble

— Foster The People (@fosterthepeople) August 11, 2019

Pumped Up Epps

who killed j epstein?

http://powet.tv/powetblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/robert_hegyes_as_juan_epstein_in_welcome_back_kotter.jpg

I knew this storyline felt like a retread

Remember when the Panama Papers revealed global level finance crimes and the only thing that happened was that the journalist who released them got killed?

— Joe Biden retire, bitch (@YourFriendCrud) August 10, 2019

who even remembers at this point that the paradise papers followed that, to even less impact

This is pure rape culture speaking — he’s a professor by coincidence though yes some old male academics are 100% trash for sure

you're right. the more I thought about my post the less it seemed to apply to summers. I retract it.

Wow, a simulated version of Epstein's Gmail inbox:
https://jmail.world/

wow, that is nuts

So is that just ... AI generated?

Not sure, here's an article about it:
https://www.wired.com/story/pranksters-recreated-a-working-version-of-jeffrey-epstein-gmail-inbox/

ha i saw it and thought “my god who would do that?” and now i can know (but will not)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails

Chomsky had deeper ties with Epstein than previously known, documents reveal

Epstein had – “with limited success” – aided efforts from Chomsky’s second wife, Valeria, to introduce him “to the world of jazz and its wonders”, the letter continued.

The World of Jazz and Its Wonders

it exalts Epstein for teaching Chomsky “about the intricacies of the global financial system” in a way “the business press and professional journals” had not been able to do.

man just wanted to learn

Pfft what:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/bannon-epstein-doc-wolff-1236433536/

The day of his arrest on federal sex trafficking charges, Jeffrey Epstein was planning a documentary to rehabilitate his image, and to counter the soon-to-be-released Netflix documentary Filthy Rich, a trove of newly released emails reveals. His partner in the project? Former Trump chief of staff, Steve Bannon, who has emerged as one of Epstein’s staunchest critics after his death.

The Epstein-backed doc was to feature interviews with luminaries across media, academia and politics to reshape the narrative, one high-profile name being Michael Wolff, an Epstein pal and avid chronicler of the Trump presidency who was consulting with Epstein on how to handle dealings with the president.

Michael Wolff is such a pompous bore, not saying guilty by association, but what a detestable man.

Amazing (in a rotten way):

“If we arrange it can we film on the island,” Bannon asked, referring to Little St. James, Epstein’s private Caribbean island where he’s alleged to have sexually abused minors. Epstein immediately agreed.

The same day, Bannon, who had produced several movies before his ill-fated turn as Trumps chief of staff, again texted the financier to schedule a filming date. “Can we do late morning say 11. Am?”

Minutes later, Epstein curtly responded, “All canceled.” No explanation followed.

“You r not coming?” Bannon inquired. He never received a reply, because just around the same time he was typing out his message, Epstein was arrested at Teterboro Airport, New Jersey on federal charges of sex trafficking dozens of minors.

Bannon on his 13th whiskey sour by 11 a.m.

Yep, he seems to have been in almost constant communication with Bannon, during the period in which he was on the outs with Trump, both on the documentary and Bannon’s quest to become a dominant figure in the international right.

Michael Wolff is such a pompous bore, not saying guilty by association, but what a detestable man.

I mean he was encouraging the nonce to blackmail the other nonce and not reporting any of this stuff, I have zero difficulty assigning him culpability

he seems to try and pass himself off as some kind of double agent infiltrating their world, that shit doesn't hold much water when he gets that involved

really too bad that doc didnt happen before he was arrested

Survivors are getting death threats now

https://www.axios.com/2025/11/22/epstein-files-death-threats-survivors-trump

Shocking :-/

I'd say basic human decency has died but the truth is we gave people too much credit for being good folk when they simply had fewer options to express the actual monstrous things they feel.

Fucking sickening.

The idea of a documentary to rehabiltate his image is sort of funny. It’s not like he was known for anything else before his arrest.

the Wolff-Bannon-Epstein axis has been pretty well documented in the last couple weeks by podcasts and ruminations online, but it’s something that hollywood reporter is jumping on that

Dom Ervolina dominicervolina.com‬

Thomas Massie says the FBI is sitting on information that implicates 20 other men in Epstein's child sex trafficking operation

They include a rockstar, six billionaires (including one from Canada), a high-profile government official, a very prominent banker, and a magician

https://bsky.app/profile/dominicervolina.com/post/3m6ay4ept2k2w

A magician!

clearly not a good enough magician!

really annoyed by all these "You must sign in to view this post." bluesky links!

i can share an invite brb

we’re going to finally take down Bono

It’s just a clip from Kash Patel’s Senate hearing in September, not new allegations.

everyone else reads Epstein + magician and thinks "David Blaine" right

Possibly the wrong David.

Not Dickensian enough…

I don't think that one had the cachet to roll with the international financier/politician pedo ring after 1998.

Copperfield has a string of allegations against him, including grooming, and was in contact with at least one of Epstein’s victims. He seems to have been friends with him, but denies any knowledge of…

He proposed to Claudia Schiffer on Epstein's island.

... actually Epstein didn't own the island yet, so strike that.

let’s see David Copperfield wiggle his way out of this jam

George Bush Sr's favourite magician

David Cop-a-Feel iirc

I always knew Paul Daniels was a wrong 'un

The idea of a documentary to rehabiltate his image is sort of funny. It’s not like he was known for anything else before his arrest.

pioneer in prehabilitation

“You might know me as a pedophile billionaire who served time for specifically targeting vulnerable teenages. You might also know that I have bizarre, seemingly inexplicable connections to the world’s most powerful people, and that many have speculated I run some kind of human trafficking and blackmail operation. And while that is all true, it’s not the whole story. I am also….”

Chomsky spent the overwhelming majority of the mid to late 20th century in and around Cambridge, where one would easily surmise he would have access to people who knew something about jazz music, or could take him to wally's or wherever else. even allowing that legit superbrain scientific genuises often don't have the time or inclination or capacity to understand purely cultural phenomena (often, those selfsame superbrains only can understand classical music, a highly ordered/deliberate system), is it not odd that he needed who we now know was the the world's premiere pedo to help him understand, like Coltrane or Duke or whoever it was?

Someone on one of these threads said there was something about Epstein's music interests in the files? the only thing I could find was that he had super basic boomer taste, he made shitty obvious playlists?

His idea of jazz was probably Blood, Sweat and Tears

https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-whats-on-jeffrey-epsteins-spotify-and-pinterest-pages-2019-8

Epstein's Spotify account was much more heavily used. It has 19 playlists created from 2011 to 2015. Two playlists, "paris flight" and "paris_return," appear to be named for trips to and from Paris, where Epstein owned an apartment and frequently traveled via private jet. "Paris flight" features several classic rock stalwarts like Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, The Who, and The Doors. "Paris_return," in contrast, is heavy on blues and jazz.

Other playlists focus on Elton John, classical music, Broadway tunes, the jazz artist Oscar Peterson, and the rapper Pitbull. Elsewhere, you can find Eric Clapton's "Before You Accuse Me"; the Christian singer Morris Chapman's "Falling in Love with Jesus"; Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher"; and the disgraced comic Louis C.K.'s album "Hilarious."

Peterson and his band took the top spot by number of songs on Epstein's playlists, at 188. Ludwig van Beethoven, with 130 songs, was the second artist by song count, followed by Celine Dion with 108. Behind them were Elton John, Billy Joel, Bob Dylan, the Beach Boys, David Guetta, Tchaikovsky, and the Beatles cover band The Yesteryears (including their recording of "Can't Buy Me Love").

... Epstein's other music interests seemed to include Phil Collins, Michael Jackson, and Mick Jagger, who appeared in his "black book," a list of contacts obtained by Gawker in 2015. Jackson is the only artist of the three to appear on Epstein's Spotify playlists.

Epstein's personal theme song was said to be Jagger's "Let's Work," a minor hit for the Rolling Stones singer.

 is it not odd that he needed who we now know was the the world's premiere pedo to help him understand, like Coltrane or Duke or whoever it was?

From a good long essay by Anand Giridharadas on the "Epstein class":

"Sometimes these people give the impression that their minds would be blown by a newspaper. Mr. Kuhn wrote to Mr. Epstein: 'Love to get your sense of Trump’s administration, policies.' And while it may seem strange to rely on Mr. Epstein for political analysis when you can visit any number of websites, for this class, insight’s value varies inversely with the number of recipients."

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/23/opinion/meaning-epstein-emails.html

Epstein's personal theme song was said to be Jagger's "Let's Work," a minor hit for the Rolling Stones singer.

If anyone still had doubts about his monstrousness…