the jeffrey epstein memorial poll and conspiracy-mongering thread

Let's roll

To quote Antonin Artaud, he was suicided by society, just like Van Gogh.

Mood. pic.twitter.com/9rSn0Kn1KP

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) August 10, 2019

If he’d been allowed to live, he might have revealed that Bill Clinton may have committed sexual misconduct, which would have been truly damaging to the Clinton legacy.

Anyway, I voted for 'other': he's safe and sound, tucked away in a paradisiacal underground mansion, at a stone's throw from the earth's molten core.

No 12 ft lizard option - no credibility

Do I legitimately think he was whacked? Not really, I feel like people powerful enough to kill someone in federal custody could have made it look like a stroke or heart attack or something.

Do I think he definitely could have been whacked? Absolutely. Is it worth playing with to further highlight that he was bros with 50% of the last 4 Presidents and a ton of rich assholes. Also absolutely.

If he’d been allowed to live, he might have revealed that Bill Clinton may have committed sexual misconduct, which would have been truly damaging to the Clinton legacy.

I'm not one of those The Clintons Did It ppl but I hope we can all understand that what's alleged to have taken place on Epstein's place and elsewhere goes well beyond what Bill's been previously accused of

I think it's likely there was some intervention in his death.

Not only Clinton would've potentially been implicated in child trafficking,sex slavery and rape but also Dershowitz,Ehud Barak, Prince Andrew, and various influential figures in finance,business etc.

You know those murder mysteries where, as you read the first 40 pages, you discover that the corpse was at first thought to have committed suicide, but the circumstances arouse the suspicion of the canny detective (who is the hero of the book) and, upon investigation, the hero quickly finds at least a dozen people who had strong motives to murder the victim and all of them express open delight or relief in the victim's death? Yeah, this is kinda like that, am I right?

Epstein and Pac, jammin’ in Samoa.

one for the "grain of salt" files

https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/former-mcc-inmate-theres-no-way-jeffrey-epstein-killed-himself/

^ Premise of that article is that Epstein would not have been able to hang himself, stab himself, or bludgeon himself in that unit. It says nothing about, oh, let's say an overdose of fentanyl obtained from a guard for a small cash consideration.

Voted "other" — dude absolutely faked his suicide and was whisked to freedom.

Lol dudez

He hanged himself xp

as a supporter of the ‘what if his head just... did that’ explanation of jfk’s death, i believe we should give serious credence to the thought that epstein’s neck just... did that

People have spontaneous neck implosions every year, they’re just not widely reported

Of course...

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ? Yeah right! How does that happen#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead

I see #TrumpBodyCount trending but we know who did this!

RT if you’re not Surprised#EpsteinSuicide #ClintonBodyCount #ClintonCrimeFamily pic.twitter.com/Y9tGAWaAxX

— Terrence K. Williams (@w_terrence) August 10, 2019

^^Retweeted by Yam.

I guess he's....not surprised

He also retweeted a post about Clinton's trips to the island.

I said this on the main politics thread, but his frothing desire to see the Clintons get theirs by any means possible, even if it means spotlighting a case he's been named in repeatedly, really highlights just how special his brain is

went with "(other)" because i feel like automatic "no way, no conspiracy, nothing to see here folks, move on pls!" talk is just as irresponsible, in its way, as "CLINTON BODY COUNT STRIKES AGAIN" shit.

i think epstein committed suicide and the fact that he wasn't being adequately monitored was due to gross negligence and not conspiracy

^^^^

if it were just about anyone else I'd definitely agree with you

either killed or "other"

I'm somewhere between 'gross negligence' and 'allowed/encouraged' to do it '

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ?

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

Negligence or guards just not giving a fuck. As I said on the other thread, some of the most infamous murderers in UK history, who you would expect would be watched extra carefully, have hung themselves in their cells.

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

the latter is the case apparently, why he was taken off is an open question

Yeah - he was on suicide watch w/accompanying psychiatric interviews & whatnot for a while, they decided he wasn’t suicidal, and six days later he killed himself. Ppl framing it like “they conveniently gave him the means to kill himself” like he’s Frank Pentangeli from The Godfather I guess can’t conceive of a committed suicidal person biding their time, keeping up appearances, and not raising any red flags until they’re sure they can get away with it.

It’s an “open question” only as much as you believe that mental health diagnosis and treatment in our nations esteemed prison system is foolproof, which if you do, that must be a nice way to live.

I...do not think that. I just think the particular circumstances (both how high-profile the case is and how suicide-proofed the facility is meant to be, still waiting for a contradictory take on the MCC) are sus

"Don't worry about anything, Jeffrey Epstein."
"Thanks, Alan--thanks."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U89DzP8NGM4

conspiracy doesn't apply here

it's thunderingly obvious what essentially happened

Hillary used her ninja training to sneak into his cell and defeat him?

i'm sure at a minimum JE was advised that "a Whitey Bulger" awaited him

Whitey Bulger lasted a lot longer.

u guys do recall that Trump and the Clintons were pals for a couple decades, right?

Welp

assuming that d’angelo barksdale clip will get some mileage

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ?

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

yeah, it's hard to watch. hasn't it been confirmed that he was recently taken off of suicide watch? i for one cannot believe trump wouldn't factcheck the people he retweets

lol

have you seen photos of the body? it’s obviously not him. my guess is, epstein’s on a private plane to somewhere in the middle east getting prepped for plastic surgery right now #EpsteinBodyDouble

— Foster The People (@fosterthepeople) August 11, 2019

Pumped Up Epps

who killed j epstein?

http://powet.tv/powetblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/robert_hegyes_as_juan_epstein_in_welcome_back_kotter.jpg

I knew this storyline felt like a retread

Remember when the Panama Papers revealed global level finance crimes and the only thing that happened was that the journalist who released them got killed?

— Joe Biden retire, bitch (@YourFriendCrud) August 10, 2019

who even remembers at this point that the paradise papers followed that, to even less impact

mr corrections officer

<RickRoss has entered the chat>

I'm Not A Live

Ghislaine Moments

nothing new to britishes, i'm sure, but a suitably acerbic roundup of the former duke and duchess of york' various activities

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v48/n05/andrew-o-hagan/stay-classy

it's by andrew o'hagan so caveat lector 😔

(britishes have other reasons to dislike o'hagan: and no he doesn't do the work needed here to redeem himself IMO -- it's a long list of reasons to be entertainingly rude abt prince andrew & some of the royals, which fine obv, but there's actually a whole bunch of underlying stuff here, about how things run & who lets them, that the slapfest merely gestures at, bcz AOH can't be bothered to put the work in)

(apologies mookieproof)

also how does he end up so morally haughty abt how some duchess described virginia giuffre when he starts out "tee hee koo stark" (this is what i mean by "underlying stuff" i guess)

I'm not really interested in the underlying stuff though, so AOH's approach is fine with me.

https://www.tmz.com/2026/03/08/mount-sinai-investigating-ties-between-epstein-and-leading-doctor-at-the-hospital/

Someone on Reddit commented that they are working with physicians at Mount Sinai in NYC right now and the place is in an uproar and Dubin has basically gone into hiding.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/doj-sitting-on-documents-involving-13-year-old-trump-accuser/

whether or not there is an underlying crime here --- i am agnostic, although i wouldn't put it past him as he is a documented sexual predator --- the coverup is itself illegal and obvious. this is the watergate moment.

I found myself very excited about this possibility this morning. Could he seriously be nailed on a coverup at this point?

(PS do not answer that — I’m trying to be hopeful)

nothing is going to happen under this DOJ

this is the lamest fucking excuse

DOJ spokeswoman Natalie Baldassarre told the Daily Beast that no files are missing. Rather, she said the skip in serial numbers was the result of “duplicative notes, which contain the exact same information” as what is available online.

However the public will not be allowed to confirm the DOJ’s claim that the information is “duplicative.”

are they worried about server space or something? Just RELEASE THEM ALL

what a coincidence it’s in that section that’s really damning for trump too

they've already been busted several times for removing and redacting things for no reason other than to protect Trump there's no reason to trust anything the DOJ says right now

'these are not the files you're looking for' she thinks she's a jedi knight

This seems like the worst instance of that as this was a victim who was interviewed several times by the fbi and I believe — correct me if I am wrong — received a settlement from the epstein estate.

as several people have pointed out the FBI doesn't repeatedly interview someone who they suspect is just making things up, good thing for him that Republican voters don't actually care about child rape

this is the watergate moment

there will never be another watergate moment because the public and the media landscape have changed far too much for that

idk the hotel is still there

Precious and few are the Watergate moments

as several people have pointed out the FBI doesn't repeatedly interview someone who they suspect is just making things up, good thing for him that Republican voters don't actually care about child rape

It should be possible to learn more about this investigation and why they chose to interview her four times. To me, releasing the files seemed like a first step. The point now would be to follow up on the leads.

Unfortunately given the republican control of congress and the doj, such an effort would have to come from journalists.

Epstein Estate Paid Trump Settlement to Abuse Accuser

https://www.newsweek.com/epstein-estate-paid-trump-settlement-to-abuse-accuser-accountant-11663346

That’s an oddly worded headline.

From the New Republic:

Representative Ro Khanna told PBS News Hour’s Ali Rogin Wednesday that Richard Kahn, Epstein’s accountant, confirmed that the alleged sex trafficker’s estate had made a payment to a woman who accused both Epstein and Trump. Kahn did not say how much the settlement was, or when it was paid, during his deposition in front of the House Oversight Committee earlier in the day.

“If it was fake, then why was she paid a settlement? There must be some validity to it,” Khanna said, according to Rogin. “Now, I’m not saying validity necessarily against Donald Trump. Maybe it was against Epstein. But he did confirm that there was a settlement payout.”

yeah it wasn't a "trump settlement." but someone who accused trump and epstein was paid a settlement by epstein.

i think it is a major development.

is this the strongest evidence we have so far that Trump has definitely raped children??

well this combined with the drawing of a nude adolescent that he made for epstein along with the note that the two men "shared" many "secrets"

honestly i think the cannibalism and satanism bullshit is being seeded in part by trump defenders who want to back away from inquiries into trump and the whole pageant and modeling scenes. this is where i think they'll find evidence of criminality.

i personally would not seed such stories if i were them but im different

Epstein reportedly even went as far as describing, Eva's daughter, Celina, as his "goddaughter."

sorry but something is clearly amiss here. there's no need for "describing" to be followed with a comma

if only there were a way to investigate viable claims, and then some sort of system to try to fairly adjudicate facts and liabilities for losses and damages.

FYI for anyone who feel like they’d benefit from smart, sensitive coverage of the files, there’s a relatively new podcast called Epstein Book Club hosted by journalist Elise Hiu & comedian & former Daily Show field producer Jena Friedman

It’s been out for a month or two - I have only listened to a couple of eps so far but the discourse is smart, they’re appropriately focused on the victims & it’s not super jokey but also not intensely hardcore deep dive either — just the headlines and as much of the facts as are known

basically their goal is giving us the upshot & a few headlines each week so you don’t have to go crazy w all of the rabbitholes.

I like it so far & find it helpful. Plus having this hosted by women is a nice little bit of sanity imo

so... the latest claim is that this file https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00276490.m4a
(2m41s audio) is Erika Kirk's voice and she's scheduling underage girls for Epstein. - Grok says it's undeniably her, but you know how AI is. Is it her?

🚨 THE SMOKING GUN: Leaked DOJ Wiretap Audio Captures Erika Kirk Scheduling Underage Girls for Epstein 😱

I have been sent a bombshell audio file, and I have verified its authenticity. This is not a rumor. This is not a theory. This is a recorded phone call from the DOJ's own… https://t.co/jZKCleM1eb pic.twitter.com/oyZ56AeS9W

— Project Constitution (@ProjectConstitu) March 14, 2026

I don’t think that’s her. This is some Candace Owens stan account.

oh, I didn't realize. Nevermind then - sorry

This stuff is so tempting and it is a space filled with chaos merchants like candace owens.

candaces fight with erika kirk is pretty funny tho, there was a story a while ago about how shes got a bunch of tpa usa staffers believing her nonsense because ultimately theyre all conspiracy theorist drama addicts

and of course as with any good conspiracy theory it does align with the actual facts of the situation which are that erika is a shameless careerist who didnt give a shit about her dead husband

Yeah, it’s a case of a conservative grifter being exposed by conservative grifters.

Welcome to the intestines of the ouroboros

It is so so so depressing that people have to make up shit like this when the truth is just as bad or worse.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/mar/14/peter-mandelson-cherie-blair-epstein-files

This is so so pathetic

"Mandelson still a human being" I contest this

Nauseating.

if nothing else a stellar example of himpathy

it is rampant!

I'm interested in what's happened to Nadia Marcinko (Marcinkova), a "model" who apparently arrived in Epstein's world when she was 15 years old. She was later trained to become a pilot and became one of Epstein's private pilots as well as an influencer under the names "Gulfstream Girl," and after a lawsuit by Gulfstream, "Global Girl."

Most websites and even Wikipedia state that she's been missing since early 2024. The current edit of her Wikipedia page mentions that she's been spotted in January of this year at the "Zen Studies Society" in New Jersey, but the Independent article cited makes no mention of that. Looking at the wiki edit history, there were apparently some Instagram photos posted in January of this year on the Zen Studies Society page, but those links are dead.

I reckon that she's been both a victim and later a major participant in many of Epstein's crimes, and is intentionally offline/trying to keep as low a profile as possible.

Yeah, I think I posted upthread about her weird connections to Dean Kamen.