the jeffrey epstein memorial poll and conspiracy-mongering thread

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Epstein got whacked 53
Epstein straight up killed himself without assistance 31
Epstein was slipped the means to commit suicide 29
(other) 10


Simon H., Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:05 (six years ago)

Let's roll

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:06 (six years ago)

To quote Antonin Artaud, he was suicided by society, just like Van Gogh.

pomenitul, Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:07 (six years ago)

Mood. pic.twitter.com/9rSn0Kn1KP

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) August 10, 2019

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:09 (six years ago)

If he’d been allowed to live, he might have revealed that Bill Clinton may have committed sexual misconduct, which would have been truly damaging to the Clinton legacy.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:15 (six years ago)

Anyway, I voted for 'other': he's safe and sound, tucked away in a paradisiacal underground mansion, at a stone's throw from the earth's molten core.

pomenitul, Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:16 (six years ago)

No 12 ft lizard option - no credibility

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:17 (six years ago)

Do I legitimately think he was whacked? Not really, I feel like people powerful enough to kill someone in federal custody could have made it look like a stroke or heart attack or something.

Do I think he definitely could have been whacked? Absolutely. Is it worth playing with to further highlight that he was bros with 50% of the last 4 Presidents and a ton of rich assholes. Also absolutely.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:19 (six years ago)

If he’d been allowed to live, he might have revealed that Bill Clinton may have committed sexual misconduct, which would have been truly damaging to the Clinton legacy.

I'm not one of those The Clintons Did It ppl but I hope we can all understand that what's alleged to have taken place on Epstein's place and elsewhere goes well beyond what Bill's been previously accused of

Simon H., Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:22 (six years ago)

I think it's likely there was some intervention in his death.

Not only Clinton would've potentially been implicated in child trafficking,sex slavery and rape but also Dershowitz,Ehud Barak, Prince Andrew, and various influential figures in finance,business etc.

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:28 (six years ago)

You know those murder mysteries where, as you read the first 40 pages, you discover that the corpse was at first thought to have committed suicide, but the circumstances arouse the suspicion of the canny detective (who is the hero of the book) and, upon investigation, the hero quickly finds at least a dozen people who had strong motives to murder the victim and all of them express open delight or relief in the victim's death? Yeah, this is kinda like that, am I right?

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:38 (six years ago)

Epstein and Pac, jammin’ in Samoa.

... (Eazy), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:40 (six years ago)

one for the "grain of salt" files

https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/former-mcc-inmate-theres-no-way-jeffrey-epstein-killed-himself/

Simon H., Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:41 (six years ago)

^ Premise of that article is that Epstein would not have been able to hang himself, stab himself, or bludgeon himself in that unit. It says nothing about, oh, let's say an overdose of fentanyl obtained from a guard for a small cash consideration.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:59 (six years ago)

Voted "other" — dude absolutely faked his suicide and was whisked to freedom.

Been a slow education for (bernard snowy), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:12 (six years ago)

Lol dudez

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:15 (six years ago)

He hanged himself xp

Vape Store (crüt), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:16 (six years ago)

as a supporter of the ‘what if his head just... did that’ explanation of jfk’s death, i believe we should give serious credence to the thought that epstein’s neck just... did that

Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:22 (six years ago)

People have spontaneous neck implosions every year, they’re just not widely reported

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:25 (six years ago)

Of course...

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ? Yeah right! How does that happen#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead

I see #TrumpBodyCount trending but we know who did this!

RT if you’re not Surprised#EpsteinSuicide #ClintonBodyCount #ClintonCrimeFamily pic.twitter.com/Y9tGAWaAxX

— Terrence K. Williams (@w_terrence) August 10, 2019

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:33 (six years ago)

^^Retweeted by Yam.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:33 (six years ago)

I guess he's....not surprised

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:34 (six years ago)

He also retweeted a post about Clinton's trips to the island.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:36 (six years ago)

I said this on the main politics thread, but his frothing desire to see the Clintons get theirs by any means possible, even if it means spotlighting a case he's been named in repeatedly, really highlights just how special his brain is

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:37 (six years ago)

went with "(other)" because i feel like automatic "no way, no conspiracy, nothing to see here folks, move on pls!" talk is just as irresponsible, in its way, as "CLINTON BODY COUNT STRIKES AGAIN" shit.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:44 (six years ago)

i think epstein committed suicide and the fact that he wasn't being adequately monitored was due to gross negligence and not conspiracy

Vape Store (crüt), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:47 (six years ago)

^^^^

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:50 (six years ago)

if it were just about anyone else I'd definitely agree with you

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:51 (six years ago)

either killed or "other"

ciderpress, Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:53 (six years ago)

I'm somewhere between 'gross negligence' and 'allowed/encouraged' to do it '

gbx, Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:54 (six years ago)

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ?

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:57 (six years ago)

Negligence or guards just not giving a fuck. As I said on the other thread, some of the most infamous murderers in UK history, who you would expect would be watched extra carefully, have hung themselves in their cells.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:57 (six years ago)

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

the latter is the case apparently, why he was taken off is an open question

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:59 (six years ago)

Yeah - he was on suicide watch w/accompanying psychiatric interviews & whatnot for a while, they decided he wasn’t suicidal, and six days later he killed himself. Ppl framing it like “they conveniently gave him the means to kill himself” like he’s Frank Pentangeli from The Godfather I guess can’t conceive of a committed suicidal person biding their time, keeping up appearances, and not raising any red flags until they’re sure they can get away with it.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Sunday, 11 August 2019 01:11 (six years ago)

It’s an “open question” only as much as you believe that mental health diagnosis and treatment in our nations esteemed prison system is foolproof, which if you do, that must be a nice way to live.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Sunday, 11 August 2019 01:14 (six years ago)

I...do not think that. I just think the particular circumstances (both how high-profile the case is and how suicide-proofed the facility is meant to be, still waiting for a contradictory take on the MCC) are sus

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 01:16 (six years ago)

"Don't worry about anything, Jeffrey Epstein."
"Thanks, Alan--thanks."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U89DzP8NGM4

clemenza, Sunday, 11 August 2019 01:18 (six years ago)

conspiracy doesn't apply here

it's thunderingly obvious what essentially happened

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 August 2019 02:20 (six years ago)

Hillary used her ninja training to sneak into his cell and defeat him?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 11 August 2019 02:23 (six years ago)

i'm sure at a minimum JE was advised that "a Whitey Bulger" awaited him

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 August 2019 02:24 (six years ago)

Whitey Bulger lasted a lot longer.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 11 August 2019 02:26 (six years ago)

u guys do recall that Trump and the Clintons were pals for a couple decades, right?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 August 2019 02:33 (six years ago)

Welp

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 11 August 2019 03:23 (six years ago)

assuming that d’angelo barksdale clip will get some mileage

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 11 August 2019 03:57 (six years ago)

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ?

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

yeah, it's hard to watch. hasn't it been confirmed that he was recently taken off of suicide watch? i for one cannot believe trump wouldn't factcheck the people he retweets

Karl Malone, Sunday, 11 August 2019 04:18 (six years ago)

lol

have you seen photos of the body? it’s obviously not him. my guess is, epstein’s on a private plane to somewhere in the middle east getting prepped for plastic surgery right now #EpsteinBodyDouble

— Foster The People (@fosterthepeople) August 11, 2019

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 04:23 (six years ago)

Pumped Up Epps

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 August 2019 04:29 (six years ago)

who killed j epstein?

http://powet.tv/powetblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/robert_hegyes_as_juan_epstein_in_welcome_back_kotter.jpg

buzza, Sunday, 11 August 2019 04:44 (six years ago)

I knew this storyline felt like a retread

Remember when the Panama Papers revealed global level finance crimes and the only thing that happened was that the journalist who released them got killed?

— Joe Biden retire, bitch (@YourFriendCrud) August 10, 2019

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 06:09 (six years ago)

who even remembers at this point that the paradise papers followed that, to even less impact

Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 11 August 2019 07:25 (six years ago)

regardless, individual people getting fired over emails is not what needs to happen. there are very serious crimes that were committed and the files give us just enough info to know that that is true, but not enough to prosecute people. this is obviously by design and it is not acceptable.

treeship., Friday, 6 February 2026 02:11 (two days ago)

there also are major questions relating to what happened to all of these victims. are all of them alive? were the reports of epstein paying girls to have his children true? what happened to the babies?

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/epstein-superior-gene-pool-babies-b2913060.html

this is all madness. as a citizen, i have no idea what to even say.

treeship., Friday, 6 February 2026 02:13 (two days ago)

why even have a criminal justice system if it cannot protect the most vulnerable?

treeship., Friday, 6 February 2026 02:15 (two days ago)

Let's ask Bill Barr.

Come On, (Eazy), Friday, 6 February 2026 02:33 (two days ago)

also, re the 'pussy eating' thing and Weiss, I honestly thought people were referencing his comment to Epstein: "Pussy is, indeed, low carb."

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, February 5, 2026 7:48 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

His = whose?

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, February 5, 2026 7:56 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Wait, Epstein said that??

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, February 5, 2026 7:56 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Peter Attia said that in an email to Epstein.

Venus of Willendorf on Golf (jaymc), Friday, 6 February 2026 02:38 (two days ago)

j0rdan deep cut

treeship., Friday, 6 February 2026 02:38 (two days ago)

In another email exchange, from October 2009, Epstein discussed mounting an exhibition featuring images of minors.

“I might want to fund an exhibition entitled statutory.. girls and boys ages 14 - 25.. where they look nothing like their true ages. Juvenile mug shots. , photo shop, make up. some people go to prison because they can't tell true age. controversial . fun. maybe it should be a web page , with hits, tallied,” Epstein wrote to Ross.

Ross appeared to embrace Epstein’s exhibition idea and suggested speaking later that day.

“You are incredible,” Ross replied. “This would be a very owerful [sic] and freaky book. Do you know that total porno commercial kiddie picture of Brooke Sheilds that Richard Prince appropriated for an exhibition in the early 1980's?”

what’s unsettling is the amount of asskissing combined with the pedophilia and the looking the other way

z_tbd, Friday, 6 February 2026 05:26 (two days ago)

xpost

David Ross, chair of the School of Visual Arts, quits:

https://hyperallergic.com/david-ross-resigns-from-school-of-visual-arts-after-epstein-revelations/?ref=daily-newsletter

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)

z_tbd, Friday, 6 February 2026 05:27 (two days ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HAdIn7eXIAAsF3s?format=jpg&name=small

UK media has become even more insanely broken by the Epstein files. By the time of the next file drop they will onto Putin did 9-11

calzino, Friday, 6 February 2026 07:02 (two days ago)

Never knew that Epstein worked at Sugar Ape

a hoy hoy, Friday, 6 February 2026 07:25 (two days ago)

It sure is fascinating to see Elon Musk dropped wholesale into the shit by the latest batch of files after he displeased the Dear Leader.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 6 February 2026 07:58 (two days ago)

this fuckin guy

In August 2006, a month after the federal investigation of him began,[67] Epstein invested $57 million in the Bear Stearns High-Grade Structured Credit Strategies Enhanced Leverage hedge fund.[68][69] The SEC filings for the Bear Stearns fund show that Epstein's Financial Trust Company controlled the votes of a 10-percent share.[70] This fund was highly leveraged in mortgage-backed collateralized debt obligations (CDOs).[69]

On April 18, 2007, an investor in the fund, who had $57 million invested, discussed redeeming his investment.[70][71] At this time, the fund had a leverage ratio of 17:1, which meant for every dollar invested there were 17 dollars of borrowed funds; therefore, the redemption of this investment would have been equivalent to removing $1 billion from the thinly traded CDO market.[72] The selling of CDO assets to meet the redemptions that month began a repricing process and general freeze in the CDO market. The repricing of the CDO assets caused the collapse of the fund three months later in July, and the eventual collapse of Bear Stearns in March 2008. Losses to investors in the two Bear Stearns funds were estimated to exceed $1.6 billion.

lag∞n, Friday, 6 February 2026 13:02 (two days ago)

lol wait okay so epstein was the tipping point for the global financial crisis???

Tracer Hand, Friday, 6 February 2026 13:14 (two days ago)

evil Gump strikes again

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 6 February 2026 13:15 (two days ago)

new photos show jeffery epstein on the grassy knoll

lag∞n, Friday, 6 February 2026 13:17 (two days ago)

need to search the files for mohamed atta

lag∞n, Friday, 6 February 2026 13:19 (two days ago)

Kimbal Musk removed from the board of Burning Man over presence in Epstein files. Man when you're too fucking toxic to be associated with Burning Man

https://sfstandard.com/2026/02/04/kimbal-musk-burning-man-board-of-directors/

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 6 February 2026 13:32 (two days ago)

Waiting to hear if he gets bounced from Square Roots, which a former colleague at ESM set up together with him.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 6 February 2026 13:56 (two days ago)

when you're too fucking toxic to be associated with Burning Man

Fyre Festival mantle is out there for the taking, just sayin

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 6 February 2026 15:14 (two days ago)

I know it's a serious communication but Epstein's brother typing "President Trump authorized is murder" is killing me this morning. nobody in that family ever read anything they typed before slapping that send button

mh, Friday, 6 February 2026 15:26 (two days ago)

goddamn it, PRESIENT trump. Mark obviously didn't have my computer's autocorrect

mh, Friday, 6 February 2026 15:26 (two days ago)

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 6 February 2026 15:29 (two days ago)

23andme needs to let me know if I have the Epstein posting gene :(

mh, Friday, 6 February 2026 15:32 (two days ago)

Sarah Ferguson rumored to be about to flee the UK

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/2167088/sarah-ferguson-move-epstein-latest

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 6 February 2026 15:43 (two days ago)

O the humanity!

The Olde, Old, Very Olde Man. (Tom D.), Friday, 6 February 2026 15:45 (two days ago)

Sarah Ferguson rumored to be about to flee the UK

not saying it's not going to happen but the Express is as far from a reliable source as you can find

congragulations (stevie), Friday, 6 February 2026 15:49 (two days ago)

the list of people losing their jobs or at the least getting sidelined is growing

I'm assuming our UK pol thread is on top of the Peter Mandelson downfall, but holy crap. I guess he was just feeding confidential information from parliament to Epstein who was then passing it on to Jamie Dimon and others?

mh, Friday, 6 February 2026 15:52 (two days ago)

3rd time was the charm with Mandelson

calzino, Friday, 6 February 2026 15:54 (two days ago)

true, express is lame, it was just the first link I found. there are a few more. also, still rumor at this point.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 6 February 2026 15:57 (two days ago)

if youre planning on fleeing you just cant let the press get wind of it

lag∞n, Friday, 6 February 2026 15:58 (two days ago)

She prob. checks in with the Express before getting out of bed in the morning.

fetter, Friday, 6 February 2026 16:03 (two days ago)

article says she might go to australia so i guess shes looking at this as more of a pr rather than a legal disaster, gotta go to dubai if youre looking to outrun the law

lag∞n, Friday, 6 February 2026 16:07 (two days ago)

I gotta feeling that tonight's not gonna be a good night for her

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 6 February 2026 17:36 (two days ago)

Took me a minute, but now I get it. Zing!

tobo73, Friday, 6 February 2026 17:46 (two days ago)

https://t.co/kOmCJaJEIz pic.twitter.com/OfGtBtS1Kz

— Detty (@0ddette) February 6, 2026

calzino, Saturday, 7 February 2026 09:28 (yesterday)

Worst. Illuminati. Ever.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01205692.pdf

photo taken by Epstein at dinner. Full list of attendees:
Desiree Dudley
Ed Boyden
Elon Musk
Jeffrey Epstein
Joi Ito
Mark Zuckerberg
Michelle Yee
Navaid Farooq
Peter Thiel
Priscilla Chan
Reid Hoffman

Ed Boyden is at the head of the table

from: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02718470.pdf

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 7 February 2026 09:56 (yesterday)

BTW, Nouriel Roubini is in the files. Apparently he was "dating" a 16 year old in 2012

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00942337.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02569031.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01907728.pdf

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 7 February 2026 10:03 (yesterday)

S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick has said he had "limited interactions" with Jeffrey Epstein, but documents show they were in business together as recently as 2014.

Lutnick and Epstein each signed on behalf of limited liability companies that agreed on Dec. 28, 2012, to acquire stakes in a now-shuttered advertising technology company called Adfin, documents released among the so-called Epstein files show.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/howard-lutnick-jeffrey-epstein-in-business-together/

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 7 February 2026 16:29 (yesterday)

https://skepchick.org/2026/02/epstein-files-reveal-how-pathetic-richard-dawkins-other-men-are🕸/

everything I read about the skeptic movement makes me glad I left it a long lomg time ago

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 7 February 2026 17:14 (yesterday)

Still reeling at that Dawkins “Dear Muslima” post.

"Bengla Desh" LP Deliveries To Meet Santa's Deadline (President Keyes), Saturday, 7 February 2026 17:17 (yesterday)

that one made the rounds years ago. she kind of soft-peddles the idea that dawkins had some breaking point where he just started posting gibberish on twitter. pretty sure he was always like that, he just wasn’t as public

mh, Saturday, 7 February 2026 17:39 (yesterday)

Like his obsession with the kid who made the clock out of a pencil case

Glen Warren G (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 February 2026 17:42 (yesterday)

on a lighter note, I have been laughing the last few days about epstein emailing deepak chopra about pokémon go and his suggestion that chopra develop an augmented reality app where you can see people’s auras on your phone

that probably would have made some money tbh

mh, Saturday, 7 February 2026 17:44 (yesterday)

I might dig around more later, but I was curious if there were any ties between Epstein and the rise of Russian oligarchs post-1996 and the loans for shares scheme that had the Russian government hand over major industries to private corporations that basically laid the groundwork for all kinds of terrible shit.

Nothing too obvious other than Epstein being tight with Larry Summers who was mixed up in it all, but there is this message chain with the other party oddly redacted. That mystery party does say

Talk at home tomorrow.
Chubais of RosNano inquiring about me.

That'd be Anatoly Chubais, Russian-Israeli economist who oversaw the program

mh, Saturday, 7 February 2026 21:33 (yesterday)

Peter Attia apparently will not be losing his job at CBS news:

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2026-02-04/cbs-news-peter-attia-keeps-cbs-news-role-despite-epstein-files-controversy

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 7 February 2026 23:04 (yesterday)

Wow even with that comment in the record?

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Sunday, 8 February 2026 00:20 (fourteen hours ago)

The nerve of some people.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Sunday, 8 February 2026 00:21 (fourteen hours ago)

ha i have 0 idea who this clown is, i saw his pic and went “lol obv juicer is a wellness ‘optimizer’ anywhere in usa” and then saw his sponsors are supplements companies.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Sunday, 8 February 2026 01:12 (fourteen hours ago)


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