Mama said don't but I did it anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-znj7Uf9Oo
Any word on this new McBride show, The Righteous Gemstones? I only literally this moment learned of its existence from a random website ad.
― Dez Tekken (Old Lunch), Thursday, August 22, 2019 9:09 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
I watched the first episode, it continues very much in the same vein as his previous two HBO shows - same type of characters, same type of dialogue, same type of conflicts/themes. First ep alternated between mildly amusing and artfully crafted disturbing.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, August 22, 2019 9:13 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
well on second thought maybe it was just the very end that was "oh yikes so uh now this is happening"
― Οὖτις, Thursday, August 22, 2019 9:15 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
Second episode was pretty damn good tho I thought Walter Goggles was going to be in it. Edi Patterson is great and Keefe (the ex-Satanist guy) is just about perfect.
― With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, August 26, 2019 1:20 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
Appearance of Goggins in ep3 def kicked this up a notch
― Οὖτις, Sunday, September 1, 2019 6:36 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
We enjoyed the first ep, but it was a bit of a letdown after two eps of On Becoming a God in Central Florida.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, September 1, 2019 7:05 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
I kinda want every episode to just introduce/focus on a new bizarre family member (fingers crossed for stevie janowski appearance)
― Οὖτις, Sunday, September 1, 2019 7:17 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
"let's see those balls ..c'mon!" lol that was p funny, glad Goggins has turned up.
― calzino, Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:00 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
This might be the highest male:female nudity ratio i've ever seen on a show
― With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, September 1, 2019 3:40 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
Also more Goodman in ep 3 too, which doesn't hurt.
― With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, September 1, 2019 3:43 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
really liking this
― johnny crunch, Monday, September 2, 2019 10:46 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
some serious Scorsese/Casino vibes with that opening cash-flow montage in the last ep
Feel like this is better than Vice Principals, the bigger cast/broader range of focal points work in its favor
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:18 AM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
Damn still haven't even started this. The Deuce came back this week (?!)
― DJI, Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:22 AM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
the youth minister and his ex-satanist sidekick are chefskiss.jpg
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:35 AM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
Feel like this is better than Vice Principals, the bigger cast/broader range of focal points work in its favor
nah, (so far) this has a huge serious core topic that is just a hook to hang tomfoolery upon; Vice Principals treated a very tiny unimportant position as massively important, for greater fundamental comic effect.
also more & better Goggins.
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, September 11, 2019 1:35 PM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
(nb not saying that Gemstones is not v funny and entertaining, just defending Vice Principals)
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, September 11, 2019 1:37 PM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
next weeks ep looks like a good flashback one from the teaser, with hopefully much more Goggins.
― calzino, Wednesday, September 11, 2019 1:38 PM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
kinda wanna poll the wigs/hairstyles on this but Goggins would probably take it easily
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:00 PM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah, hoping the teaser is not in fact merely teasing a whole episode of flashback
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Thursday, September 12, 2019 2:12 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
Never made it all the way through vice principals, but i’m enjoying gemstones a lot. i’m not finding it particularly laugh-out-loud funny though, especially compared to eastbound and down. the most consistently funny characters are judy and keefe, but even they are more smirk-inducing than anything
― normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Thursday, September 12, 2019 4:31 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
holy shit M. Emmet Walsh
― With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:01 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
Vice Principals never quite hit for me, although I was watching in binge fashion having not watched it as released.
Gemstones is great so far and the existence of a well-plotted backstory and history really paid off in this week's flashback episode
"Uncle Baby Billy" will never not be funny
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, September 16, 2019 8:07 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
some background on the song: https://www.fastcompany.com/90404022/how-misbehaving-catchy-righteous-gemstones-earworm-came-together?utm_msg=c2ljJ3MgZ29ubmEgaGF0ZSB0aGlz
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, September 16, 2019 8:11 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
holy shit M. Emmet Walsh
yeah I did a double-take at that one
― Οὖτις, Monday, September 16, 2019 8:31 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
"runnin through the kitchen with a pickle in my mouth" is a line worthy of George Jones
― Οὖτις, Monday, September 16, 2019 8:33 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
I feel like this is just way richer than Vice Principals tbh. Probably deserves it's own thread
― Οὖτις, Monday, September 16, 2019 12:51 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
just add "(also Righteous Gemstones)" to title
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, September 16, 2019 1:10 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
or poll the McBride / Hill / Green cinematic universe and let it clunkily become the default thread for the next decade regardless of how many other series and films they make
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, September 16, 2019 1:12 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
I am not a mod
― Οὖτις, Monday, September 16, 2019 1:56 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
omg Righteous Gemstones is a blast !
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, September 19, 2019 7:51 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
runnin through the house with a pickle in my mouth, misbehavin!
― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Thursday, September 19, 2019 7:53 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
that's right, the whole house. that's what makes it. Brine everywhere!
great show
― maffew12, Thursday, September 19, 2019 7:54 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
I can't abide about 99% of US comedy but am thoroughly enjoying this.
― calzino, Thursday, September 19, 2019 8:06 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
who is the actor playing the evil stuntman? I was trying work out who he reminded me of and when it came to me it was the bad cultist leader in Lord Of Illusions.
― calzino, Thursday, September 19, 2019 8:08 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
Scott MacArthur, who I think I last saw on the show The Mick on Fox?
― untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, September 19, 2019 8:47 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
ohhh that's where i remember him from! (hopefully also answer's calzino's question)
― I'm a board man. Board man gets paid (Will M.), Thursday, September 19, 2019 1:55 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
I didn't see Vice Principals, but this new show is one of the most tonally strange things I've ever seen. We're on episode 4, I think, and often it feels like watching a show set in some alternate universe of gangster preachers, stuntmen and raving Satanists. Which ... I guess it is? But it's so ott cartoonish without being funny like a cartoon. Or maybe silly without silly-show laughs, because it's interrupted by violent showdowns and gun waving in place of slapstick? I dunno, it's weird. I think we like it, though sometimes I have to ask myself what the fuck I'm watching.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, September 21, 2019 2:20 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
some of it is cartoonish, but have you been following the Falwells lately?
― untuned mass damper (mh), Saturday, September 21, 2019 4:21 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
For sure! But violently feuding with rival preachers isn't cartoonish, it's dark, especially as depicted here, which doesn't seem comedic, or even satirical. Now, preachers as actual crime families *is* perfectly satirical, and I do like the show, but like I said, the tone is all over the place. I don't know what to call it, even though black comedy maybe comes closest?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, September 21, 2019 4:28 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
the satan worshipper rave party seemed pretty awesome imo
― untuned mass damper (mh), Saturday, September 21, 2019 4:43 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
It did! It was insane! My wife was all, wait, what city is this!?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, September 21, 2019 4:45 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
That's why it feels like an alternate universe. There's this cabal of preachers, but there's also enough Satan ravers to fill a warehouse.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, September 21, 2019 4:49 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
McBride and crew are not about realism ime
― Οὖτις, Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:13 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
Nope! It's totally surreal.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:58 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://youtu.be/gPbVRpRgHso
― Chris L, Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:04 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
wow, that is transparently the inspiration for those scenes. Still, JiC and fam correct in that I don't see an orgy breaking out of it.
― Tart Prepper (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, September 21, 2019 9:53 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
xpost Holy shit!
Anyway, my broader point was not any lack of realism, it's that the dramatic stuff is (and is played) more serious than the comedy stuff is funny, which makes everything kind of discordant. In episode 4, for example, you've got the wife on her assault weapons course, which is ridiculous but not terribly funny, or particularly played for laughs. Or in the previous episode, I think, you've got McBride's crew, who are inherently funny, but the scene with McBride threatening the guy with the stiletto knife to his throat is ... not funny, even of the situation is similarly ridiculous. Or in this most recent one, McBride and his wife in the car chase, also silly, also not funny, or played for many laughs. Tonally crazy.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, September 22, 2019 4:31 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
I guess I remember Eastbound being more overlty funny, but I suppose from Pineapple Express to Halloween, this awkward tonal mix has sort of been McBride's and David Gordon Green's jam.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, September 22, 2019 4:44 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
I don't know what you're accusing him of, but those are just some guys he does car pranks with.
― Tart Prepper (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:33 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:47 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
vice principals had the same weird tone imo. a lot of it was just really dark. both shows are great. i just want more stevie
― dynamicinterface, Sunday, September 22, 2019 8:15 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, September 22, 2019 9:21 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
also
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, September 22, 2019 9:21 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
Scott MacArthur is in this too? Man I gotta get my hands on this show, it sounds like it'll be ace.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, September 22, 2019 6:39 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
But violently feuding with rival preachers isn't cartoonish, it's dark, especially as depicted here, which doesn't seem comedic, or even satirical.
Violently feuding high school teachers also isnt terribly realistic, and some of the shit those 2 did to the other principal was HORRIBLE and dark. Thats the point of the stuff McBride does, right? Yer on board with it or not, I guess.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, September 22, 2019 6:41 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
Def needs some stevie
Xps
― Οὖτις, Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:17 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
Just to reiterate, I like this new show! Just hard to get a handle on. Dark crime family drama heist comedy satire?
BTW, I know he's getting older, and playing a character, and has lost a lot of weight, but Goodman just seems so kind of last-role tired in this. Like, literally tired. Hope he's ok.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:24 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
It’s called acting
― untuned mass damper (mh), Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:36 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
I think, outside of making everything over the top, what the McBride/Hill shows do is a caricature of excess that is ridiculous on its face rather than crafting an intricate plot about white collar crime or an intrigue about minutiae. And then they smash all the caricatures together. Do megachurches do things to lure people away to their own congregation to the point of sabotage and rumor? Sure, but that’s not nearly as obvious in screen as just smashing things, or as ridiculous and funny
The theory posited elsewhere that their shows have a deeply Protestant feel, that all sins are forgiven if you repent (or repeatedly have to repent) or that you’re one of the chosen because you’re moneyed, works for me. It’s like a guy in a hole who isn’t getting any closer to the surface but occasionally runs into a gold nugget as he burrows deeper. You can’t be both successful and wrong.
― untuned mass damper (mh), Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:45 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
def lacks fred flintstone exuberance
― Tart Prepper (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:54 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
well, yabba dabba fuckin’ doo
― untuned mass damper (mh), Sunday, September 22, 2019 8:01 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
i thought the make up on goodman was pretty impressive in the flashback episode. his neck looked 20 years younger.
― dynamicinterface, Sunday, September 22, 2019 8:12 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
I liked the detail that his office staff called him “doctor”
― untuned mass damper (mh), Sunday, September 22, 2019 8:16 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
got his yabba dabba fuckin' doctorate
― Tart Prepper (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, September 22, 2019 8:18 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
ehh it’s a living
― untuned mass damper (mh), Sunday, September 22, 2019 8:20 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
I'm gonna wait in the car. You stay here and make yourself cum.
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, September 22, 2019 9:03 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
the surfing line jesus christ
also Tiffany's piano repertoire
i fucking love this show
― With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, September 23, 2019 1:27 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
a deeply Protestant feel, that all sins are forgiven if you repent
surely this is more a Catholic point of view?
Luther believed that redemption was already baked into humanity. Jesus died on the cross FOR you. Calvin believed in predestination. doesn't matter how much you repent.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, September 23, 2019 2:57 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
I do like the idea of ott caricatures doing regular things. Usually in shows and movies it's regular people doing silly stuff. In this it's silly people doing serious stuff. Like, McBride is innately funny and funny-looking and his arrogant line readings are funny, so when you see him waving a gun you expect it to be funny, too, but it's not, not really. Same with Goggins, a kind of goofy looking dude on a good day magnified to 100 in this, but then his behavior, while still ridiculous, is nowhere near as ridiculous as the way he looks. Or Kelvin, that character is such a cartoon, but he's (so far) almost the most sincere of all of them, and Keefe (!), for being a big weirdo, is at least something of a real success story in this preacher world.
And yet even beyond that the show has no problem with good old dumb humor, too, like making fun of Mrs. Baby Billy's teeth, which is a real Farrelly Brothers thing to do.
Re: religion, this world is straight up prosperity gospel, right? Which is Protestant.
(Back to Goodman, btw. Yeah, acting. I hope! Because when he was overweight and breathing heavy in every scene, that sure wasn't acting.)
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, September 23, 2019 5:03 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
xp I think it's more that the "repenting" involves public self-flagellation and has absolutely nothing to do with personal moral clarity. Catholic repentance is between you and God, with a priest as a mediator in confession. The more evangelical position is that you have to do it in front of everyone.
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, September 23, 2019 7:16 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
"Why do you want to shave your pussy?!"
"So I can surf faster, JESSE!"
― mh, Tuesday, September 24, 2019 3:57 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
shit, Misbehavin is a *serious* earworm
― Οὖτις, Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:25 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Loved her in VP but Edi Patterson is simply amazing in this.
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:32 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
I liked the detail that his office staff called him “doctor”
I never went to a church on par w Gemstones but this was def a ‘thing’ coming up in a Southern Baptist Church. like congregants reeeeeally leaned on that shit.
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:35 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Loved her in VP but Edi Patterson is simply amazing in this.
yeah she's a highlight, interesting to see the female version of the standard McBride sputtering and delusional/blustering failure sorta character
― Οὖτις, Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:37 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
while simultaneously implying all manner of disrespect when they’d refer to a black church’s “””Bishop”””
fuck can we just tax all these motherfuckers like yesterday
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:37 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
xpst
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:37 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
really want an anigif of Goggins clogging tbh
― Οὖτις, Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:38 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah she's a highlight, interesting to see the female version of the standard McBride sputtering and delusional/blustering failure sorta character
yes! I loved that she absolutely smoked it on stage though, ala Kenny Powers when the chips are down
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:40 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol yes Misbehavin slaps
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:42 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Nice to see Patterson is also a writer and producer
― Chris L, Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:49 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
starting to think this might be the best thing McBride & co. have done yet tbrr
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 1, 2019 8:15 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Direction is definitely a bit showier, and the plot construction seems more deliberate and complex with all the flashbacks and shifting focus around the various characters. A bunch of Scorsese-esque tracking shots and flashy camerawork (lol'd at the vomiting-on-the-viewer/inside-the-toilet shot)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 1, 2019 11:36 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
should this be split off? I could c&p the thread
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, October 1, 2019 2:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
it's too damn good to not have it's own thread.
― calzino, Tuesday, October 1, 2019 2:13 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
agreed
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 1, 2019 2:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
"but Mr. Baby Billy..."
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 1, 2019 2:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
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