Attention Tuomas- I have a Finnish language question

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Miten menee?

― Tales of Jazz Ulysses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:23 (five years ago)

No, mitä siitä tulee?

― Tales of Jazz Ulysses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:51 (five years ago)

Ei kai hän ole täällä?

― Tales of Jazz Ulysses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:57 (five years ago)

Onko kaikki ihan hyvin?

― Tales of Jazz Ulysses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:58 (five years ago)

Hän astui juuri ulos savukkeelta.

― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:04 (five years ago)

En tupakoi.

― Tuomas, Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:25 (five years ago)

Muuten kuuluu hyvää, paitsi että olen flunssassa.

― Tuomas, Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:26 (five years ago)

Mistä sinä olet kotoisin?

― Lidsville U.K. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 December 2019 21:49 (five years ago)

Hän ei tule, eikö niin?

― Lidsville U.K. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 December 2019 12:50 (five years ago)

this convo turned out to be more mundane than I expected.

― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:36 (five years ago)

basically me copying and pasting sentences from Clozemaster/Tatoeba

― Jazz Telemachy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:55 (five years ago)

Kauanko se kestää ... ?

― Don’t Slander Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 December 2019 12:38 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

Voisitko auttaa minää?

― Disco Cladistic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:09 (five years ago)

Mitä minun pitäisi tehdä nyt?

― Disco Cladistic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:46 (five years ago)

attention tuomas

i just wanted to let you know that when i think of finland i think of you at least like, 50% of the time

no pressure or anything

but the world is watching

― j., Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:10 (five years ago)

five months pass...

Oletko velho?

― Barry "Fatha" Hines (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:45 (four years ago)

Oletko sisukas suomalainen?

― Barry "Fatha" Hines (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 19:08 (four years ago)

two weeks pass...

Hi Tuomas,
Are you familiar with this song?

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/39928248/Hei-Hei-Peruna

― Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 July 2020 16:00 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZzbBeT4lEY

― Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 July 2020 16:00 (four years ago)

hi tuomas,

i don't have a finnish language question, i just wanted to say hi. sorry for abusing the thread!

― j., Saturday, 11 July 2020 17:35 (four years ago)

Me too, feel like we should be bringing you some tribute, instead of just pestering you, especially since you were ill way up thread.

― Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 July 2020 17:40 (four years ago)

No, I've never heard of that song... Probably it was written after my kindergarten days. 🙂

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 09:07 (four years ago)

five months pass...

Rauhallista Joulua ja Hyvää Uutta Vuotta!

― And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 December 2020 02:19 (four years ago)

Kiitos!

― Tuomas, Friday, 25 December 2020 22:33 (four years ago)

Osaatko sinä käyttää Duolingoa?

― And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 December 2020 22:33 (four years ago)

Ei me mittä kaffelle men?

― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 December 2020 21:35 (four years ago)

Hope you don't mind my annoying attempts to learn your langauge.

― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 January 2021 23:02 (four years ago)

Nah, the I find them cute. 🙂 Was the last in some regional dialect? I'm very bad at recognising them, having lived in Helsinki my whole life.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 15:27 (four years ago)

"was the last one in some regional dialect"

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 15:28 (four years ago)

Why are you learning Finnish, btw?

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 15:29 (four years ago)

Yes, the last one was regional. Can't remember where I found it again.

― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:25 (four years ago)

I have a language learning hobby/compulsion/addiction and Finnish seemed interesting.

― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:26 (four years ago)

After doing it for a little while I started to hear it in my head a bit "Anteeksi! Kittos!"

― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:36 (four years ago)

Seems slightly easier than Hungarian, although maybe the grass is greener.

― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:37 (four years ago)

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/40208948/%E2%80%93-No-mit%C3%A4-kuuluu-%E2%80%93-Ei-kai-t%C3%A4ss%C3%A4-mit%C3%A4%C3%A4n
Wonder if the link will work. In any case there is an exchange of someone how another person is and the other person responding
Ei kai tässä mitään, which seems to be some kind of idiomatic expression.

― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 03:43 (four years ago)

Then there is also
No ei se mitään

― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 03:45 (four years ago)

This one is a music reference

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/40273407/Laulussa-nainen-juoksee-yl%C3%B6s-tuota-m%C3%A4ke%C3%A4

― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 14 January 2021 03:12 (four years ago)

Sorry for bothering you but
Kukaan ei ole seppä syntyessään.

― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2021 19:32 (four years ago)

No entä sitten?

― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2021 20:25 (four years ago)

one year passes...

Valot, kamera, käy!

― The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 June 2022 01:37 (two years ago)

one month passes...

https://uusikielemme.livejournal.com/5206.html

― My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 July 2022 13:11 (two years ago)

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/52895482/The-beds-are-in-a-hotel

― My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 11:27 (two years ago)

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/40715149/S%C3%A4ngyt-ovat-hotellissa

― My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 11:44 (two years ago)

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/49786038/Ruoka-on-t%C3%A4%C3%A4ll%C3%A4

― My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 11:45 (two years ago)

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/40040461/It-is-quiet-in-the-empty-hotel

― My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 21:21 (two years ago)

four months pass...

Hän ei panne rikkaa ristiin minua auttaakseen.

― Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 December 2022 10:38 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/39952634/grandma-and-grandpa

― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 January 2023 13:22 (two years ago)

nine months pass...

I recently finished every single thing in the Duolingo Finnish tree. Not that this means I know something.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:11 (one year ago)

And Duolingo froze and then closed all those old forum posts.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:12 (one year ago)

If I want to continue I guess I will use Clozemaster combined with some other things. Can’t really find a great dictionary anywhere though, at least in English, but did find on okay Swedish-Finnish done.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:13 (one year ago)

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Course gets tedious pretty quickly though

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:40 (one year ago)

So I learned something, not sure what exactly. Now that I am officially finished with Duolingo Finnish I am graduating myself to Clozemaster.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:41 (one year ago)

I've wanted to learn it for some time. My dad's mom spoke it as her first language (her parents came from Turku) and it stuck with her till the day she died. I still remember the sign she had on the kitchen wall that said "Tervetuloa meidän kotiimme."

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:46 (one year ago)

Perhaps weirdly, its isolation on the linguistic family tree is part of the appeal to me. I've never become fluent in other languages but am fairly capable at picking up vocabulary words - Finnish being so remote makes it a real challenge and a chance to pick up something completely new. The thing that tends to fuck me over with languages is grammar, so I always end up giving up once I've learnt a little and I doubt it'd be much different here.

― emil.y, Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:50 (one year ago)

I have no idea whether Finnish relies more on word order, case declension or something else for its grammar.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:52 (one year ago)

Okay then, give it a go!
(xp)

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:53 (one year ago)

Lots of cases, mostly.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:53 (one year ago)

Don’t try and learn them all (at once)

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:53 (one year ago)

I guess "syntax" might be a better word than "grammar."

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:54 (one year ago)

There is one interesting word order thing though that is pretty important, I think.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:54 (one year ago)

Because there is no definite article, a thing is shown to be definite by putting it towards the beginning of the sentence.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:56 (one year ago)

For vocabulary you can also use drops or even dict.cc.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:56 (one year ago)

Definitely something fun about learning such a different language it’s true.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:00 (one year ago)

I seem to enjoy it more than Hungarian.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:00 (one year ago)

Finns are, in general, more enjoyable than Hungarians.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:00 (one year ago)

Because there is no definite article, a thing is shown to be definite by putting it towards the beginning of the sentence.

See, this is fascinating to me as a fact, I love learning stuff like this about languages. But you can bet if I ever tried to speak a sentence to a Finnish person I would forget it in an instant and produce a terribly incoherent mess.

― emil.y, Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:00 (one year ago)

"I am with cheese, head fist."

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:01 (one year ago)

Finns are, in general, more enjoyable than Hungarians.

I bet their goulash is worse, though.

― emil.y, Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:02 (one year ago)

The Duolingo Hungarian course is also notoriously bad so the Finnish approach is definitely an improvement.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:06 (one year ago)

xp Right, Finnish goulash is not a thing.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:07 (one year ago)

Finnish vodka, though

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:08 (one year ago)

Saunas

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:08 (one year ago)

Finnish vodka, though

I think I have finally got through my Fisu phase, I probably shouldn't go back, it'd kill me. IT'S SO GOOD THOUGH.

https://guides.brit.co/guides/make-finish-fisu-strong-menthol-sauna-alcohol

― emil.y, Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:11 (one year ago)

Here’s another cool thing about Finnish grammar, to express negativity or negation at least: they have a special verb which gets conjugated and does all the heavy lifting.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:12 (one year ago)

Fisu Sisu

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:12 (one year ago)

Basically, Fisu and Fonal = my dream of Finland.

― emil.y, Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:14 (one year ago)

I see that Drops may have some quality control issues.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 18:55 (one year ago)

Or maybe not, at least not in this case.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 19:03 (one year ago)

Here’s a interesting word I just learned: luku, which means number but also means chapter and has something to do with reading.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 19:45 (one year ago)

Wiktionary seems to be pretty good for Finnish.

― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 October 2023 15:44 (one year ago)

oh hi, I took two solid years of Finnish in college, ama

― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 29 October 2023 19:50 (one year ago)

plusses:
every letter is always pronounced the same!
accent is always on the 1st syllable
no gender!

minuses:
no prepositions
words derive meaning by tacking on suffix after suffix, it can be hard to parse

― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 29 October 2023 19:53 (one year ago)

I used to have an excellent Finnish-English dictionary but my college buddy who was also obsessed with the language appropriated it, I'm pretty sure it was a classbook.

― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 29 October 2023 19:54 (one year ago)

words derive meaning by tacking on suffix after suffix, it can be hard to parse