GTA4 and Video Hypertransference

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I got Grand theft Auto 4 on Tuesday, thanks to 'connections', and can tell you that is rocks as little has rocked before or since. You can ride bikes, sell ice cream, buy up film companies and even talk and change your clothes, although you still can't swim or sit on a chair.

However, it may be too realistic, as after a lengthy session I go outside and fall victim to Video Hypertransference, that mysterious phenomenon which cropped up with Space Invaders in the eighties and has increased in power since. I can't watch a car go by without a strange sense of deja vu and a desire to stand in front of it and then nick it when it stops. And seeing someone dressed in any kind of eighties clothing makes my thumbs itch. I half-expect a gun to leap magically into my hand. The effect only lasts for about thirty seconds but it makes you think: can we stand to have our computer games become any more like the real world?

Al Ewing, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 23:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes!

When Driver came out (a predecessor to GTA?), it was set in SF... so afer playing I'd be driving up some steep mama hill and possess the desire to drive up the wrong side, sidewalks, etc. also, I panicked when a police cruiser would appear in my line of sight.

gygax!, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 23:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Driver is kinda a predecessor to GTA3, but 1 and 2 were out long before.

I've suffered from Hypertransference as a result of playing GTA3. Driving my car within an hour or so of a large gaming session will have me feeling the impulse to sideswipe other cars, run red lights, and even mow down pedestrians! This is a bad thing. I think there should be warning labels.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 23:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Luckily I don't drive... or own a gun...

Al Ewing, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 23:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Senator Joseph Lieberman to thread!

Last time I played Grand Theft Auto: Vice City I had the sudden urge to listen to Human League.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 23:57 (twenty-three years ago)

The last level in Driver was RIDICULOUS.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 00:52 (twenty-three years ago)

The Driver pisstake in GTA: 3 is the funniest thing ever.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 00:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Which one is that?

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 01:06 (twenty-three years ago)

kill tanner.

gygax!, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 01:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Who the hell is tanner?! Obviously I haven't played this game enough.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 01:11 (twenty-three years ago)

As one of the GTA3 FAQs points out:

"There is a game on PSX called Driver, which was made by Reflections, and it was about an undercover cop who was also named Tanner, only it took place in the '70's. This Tanner dresses A LOT like the Tanner in this game, plus, he's driving an old, '70's looking car in this mission, that looks A LOT like the car he uses in some of the cutscenes in Driver 2.

Asuka describes him as "strangely animated," and "more or less useless
without a car." In Driver 2, when Tanner got out of the car, he looked *strangely animated* when he ran on foot, and the controls were also *more or less useless without a car*. I spent about 30 seconds just trying to press this one switch in a mission, and that caused me to fail it because I ran out of time."

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 01:35 (twenty-three years ago)

It's just the bizzare dancing motion he makes when running away that cracks me up. I nearly drove my car off the side of a bridge I was laughing that much...

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 01:42 (twenty-three years ago)

i feel much the same. stepping into the car after playing gta3, i definitely want to drive all over the sidewalks and run people over.

ron (ron), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 01:53 (twenty-three years ago)

After long sessions playing Tony Hawk, Matt often expresses a desire to 'grind' along every fence/rail/kerb/telegraph wire/ledge/rooftop he sees. At these times I am grateful he doesn't own a real skateboard. Similar things with GTA too, but I know it's more of a temporary mental dislocation (which can be GOOD) than an actual risk (even if we did have a car/gun/skateboard.)

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 10:20 (twenty-three years ago)

After playing Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo I get the uncontrollable urge to arrange falling coloured blocks.

I don't want to tell you what Civ 3 does to me.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 14:08 (twenty-three years ago)

In fact, maybe Bin Laden's just a big Civ 3 fan with bad hypertransferance problems.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 14:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Did anyone actually get past the last level in Driver?

Kris (aqueduct), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

i remember finding places "Riven-y".

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)

haha, archel...

i've been hurted many times by extending my ability via hypertransference wrt: thps. when i was younger, this was fueled via watching videos... but you have to aim high right? visualize!

gygax!, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I have the urge to follow around cute little pixie children and say:

"hey!!!

leeeesten!!!"

(bloody z-targeting and I am BORED with lord jabu-jabu's belly and stupid princess rubato).

Rez makes me want to HACK INTO MY COMPUTER AND LOCK ON TO ALL THE BAD CODE!!!!

Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

please! talk about GTA4 some more! I played it last night and my god, I want to marry it. My friend's flatmate is unemployed and will no odubt be playing it as we speak - why aren't I round there?

The helicopter's a tricky bugger to fly, isn't it? Is it like a real helicopter's controls?

When I left their flat yesterday evening (I had to drive home on my scooter. In the rain. I'm certainly glad it *doesn't* have a handbrake...

More! More! Talk about it more!

Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 14 November 2002 16:14 (twenty-three years ago)

this has come true

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 14 November 2002 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

He's lying. His crime spree was obviously inspired not by Grand Theft Auto but the fact that he lives in Somers, Wisconsin. What the hell do they have to do there?

The least he coulda done was blamed that "Gone in 60 Seconds" remake. I won't be upset if the morality cops get that piece of shit banned.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 14 November 2002 17:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Does this mean that the word 'hypertransference' is now in the english language?

Thank you Wisconsin!

Al Ewing, Thursday, 14 November 2002 23:50 (twenty-three years ago)

al i urge you to illeagally rip gta 4 and share it with us losers. thanks.

chaki (chaki), Friday, 15 November 2002 00:03 (twenty-three years ago)

how does one rip ps2 games? no actually i don't want to know, go away googlers...

i reckon northstar prolly sent those kids out to get some more publicity ;)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 15 November 2002 10:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Al your email address is the greatest ever.

Would I like GTAVC? By which I mean - how difficult is it? I dont want to spend 40 squid and then find I'm too malco to play it.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 November 2002 12:35 (twenty-three years ago)

its tough Tom (but bearable) and it can steal a whole day from you in no time. But its the best game EVER!!!!!! So spend your squid.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 15 November 2002 12:57 (twenty-three years ago)

and also you can happily spend two or three hours driving about running ppl over and trying to find ramps to jump off or how to pop wheelies on the bikes as i did the other day, rather than actually "do" the proper missions...

...and also listening to top 80s music at the same time, "you are gold GOLD, always believing you're sooooooo-ooold, you've got the power to KNOW, you're indistructab-uuuuuullllul" etc...

come and have a go on mine before buying it would be my recommendation tom :)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 15 November 2002 13:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaagh wanna playstation! Is N. still in India? I will go and burgle him while he's gawn. Is the helicopter as hard to fly as the wee plane in GTA III? Because that was pants. And are there any more spanked up madmen? Tell me every single detail of this lovely new game.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)

bless you my child :)

i saw N. on archway station last saturday as they were leaving and he said they were going for a fortnight, so i'd get over there with a jemmy quick sharp.

haven't got to the real actual helicoptor yet, but the ickle remote control one is a booger to steer.

there are many many good things about this game, not least that the main character is voiced by ray liotta and that vice city is cool as a very large can of beans. also with the BIG GUN you can take ppls heads RIGHT OFF and blood comes spurting out of their necks, which is nice.

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I get Inverse Video Transference with this, I play it after driving home from work so stop at all the red lights, let people into traffic queues and so on.

This is worth 40 quid for the soundtrack alone, I have very often sat parked at my destination waiting for a song to finish. Wave and Wildstyle are obviously the best radio stations, but Espantoso, the latin one, is also brilliant, I might even buy the CD.

Tom, I'm rubbish at games and am not finding this one too hard, though I'm struggling with the radio-controlled helicopter mission - I'm going to see if I can kill everyone in the building before flying the chopper in. Most of the fun is working out how to do something if the obvious way is too tricky.

The story sections are absolutely spot on, your first boss is the Sean Penn lawyer from Carlito's Way and the Burt Reynolds character is ace. I see from the cast list that Dennis Hopper makes an appearance, I can't wait for that one.

Mike (mratford), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:56 (twenty-three years ago)

big helo is easy to fly, took a bit of practice but its really cool to see the city. also, if you can withstand the barrage of bullets from the army, you can steal their Apache helicopter and wreak havoc. dennis hopper play a porn producer.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)

dennis hopper play a porn producer.

Not just a porn producer, but a shameless Spielberg wannabe porn producer! His first line of dialogue at the big party on the Colonel's yacht had me rolling.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 15 November 2002 18:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, and I am currently under the belief that if there is one phrase you do not want to come across ever again after you start the Haitian missions, it is "Juju Scramble". ARGH

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 15 November 2002 19:01 (twenty-three years ago)

That mission sucks, i still can't do it. its the one mission holding me back. DO i take the helicopter.......or what.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 15 November 2002 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Juju Scramble is easier than pie. There are only three packages to get, so you hardly have to outrun the coppers at all... and once you've got them all, just get out of your car and run away so they can't bust you. Unless you die, but you're surely a man of the world so you won't.

Tom - you must get this game. You can quit 'the life' and become an ice-cream salesman. Or a Robbie-Williams style race driver. But you can't swim, so don't try.

You can even become a Batman-like superhero as you stop crims in your secret karate-kid style identity. Or maybe turning into a Patrick Bateman-style psychopath and going on an immaculate chainsaw spree is more your thang? This has it all.

Go on. Buy it.

Al Ewing, Saturday, 16 November 2002 03:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Speaking of chainsaws, you can cut the shit out of a Cadillac (not called such in the game but you get the idea) in a loving tribute to Wendy O. Williams!

I find it amusing that a lot of the bloodthirsty Haitian gangsters run around in "RELAX" t-shirts.

I finally beat "Juju Scramble" thanks to a bit of luck, a quick Greenwood and a short layover in the Pay 'n' Spray. I've never felt as relieved and triumphant playing any video game as I several different have playing this.

Oh, and Debbie Harry does a voiceover, too. And it rules. Her character looks really un-Blondie-esque, though.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 16 November 2002 05:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom - you must get this game.

Seconded, just buy it. Al and Nate are ahead of me, but I've finished the radio-controlled helicopter mission and that was a fist-pumping moment.

You can quit 'the life' [...]

If James Ellroy made videogames...

Mike (mratford), Saturday, 16 November 2002 07:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never felt as relieved and triumphant playing any video game as I several different have playing this.

Me are English writer good!

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 16 November 2002 08:48 (twenty-three years ago)

The remote control helicopter mission is hard, but it just comes down to mastering the controls, which are really hard at first but get easy once you've practiced. Fly it around the city for a bit. My friend finished the mission (without killing the construction site staff) on his 2nd attempt. It's fun to kill people with the chopper's blades too.

Mark C (Mark C), Saturday, 16 November 2002 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
GTAVC really changes the way you look at a new city as well. When I was walking around London, I saw bits of it in terms of how you'd drive around fast. Particularly the Barbican: as you're walking east over the bridge before heading down towards Moorfield(?) Tube Station, there's a short ramp on another level which, if you were to take a PCJ600 up it, would land you on the level you're on, easy.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I always love watching GTA4 but i can't ever seem to get into playing it for reasons totally lost on me but i have a friend who only really plays GTA and nothing else and i've heard him at various times comment on road layout about glasgow and how such and such a place would be good for snipering.

The whole video hypertransference thing scares me in a kind of "is this making me a bad person kind of way". Replaying a section of hitman or deus ex in an attempt to get the "perfect kill" really can't be helping my character much and after playing something like GTA or State of emergency i'm sometimes left with a slight feeling of disorientation or detatchment, not of mentalist proportions or anything but it's still kind of worrying.

I guess it links to the whole interactivity of video games and how you really are puttin' yrself in the characters shoes along with the fact that in a lot of games you play a "baddie" without any sort of moralisation involved in the game or anything.

Jeffrey (Danny), Thursday, 13 February 2003 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

It's not GTA4 - I wish people would stop calling it that.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 13 February 2003 21:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm stuck on having to shoot all the dudes from the helicopter. My gun control is weak.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 13 February 2003 21:05 (twenty-three years ago)

That's not so hard. You don't even have to shoot them all. Just shoot the ones who are hitting you (it moves on after a set time), aim for oil barrels that blow up loads of them at once, and *get better gun control*

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 14 February 2003 01:07 (twenty-three years ago)

using the buttons trather than the joystick can help with that there gun control

chris (chris), Friday, 14 February 2003 09:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Well everyone who plays it should go and get a copy of Ico and play it afterwards to unbend your karma. And also because Ico is brilliant.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 14 February 2003 10:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm amazed that I've added the word 'hypertransference' to the language.

Al_Ewing, Friday, 14 February 2003 18:17 (twenty-three years ago)


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