Voice vs. Vice

And by Joy Press even! We might have the mother of all threads about to start.

hee hee also check out what "the other half" thinks.

oops, sorry jess hadn't noticed your previous link. thanks for "the other half" link

Joy Press is the bomb. She and SR were here this past summer (SR researching his post-punk book) but we did not think we had Vice to talk about.

From Style Labs thread, but possibly more apt here:

...And also Sunday night a very funny thing happened that might have relevance here. I was meeting Larry Clark and his girlfriend for a drink and a chat, we were sitting in the lobby bar of a very swank hotel and suddenly this brick shithouse in a Lawn Guyland leather coat approaches and claps Larry on the back. "Larry! You da man! I can't wait to see your movie!' Puzzled looks from the three of us, as the guy just stands there. "Oh...Shane from V*ce. Hey. I'm here to get a film deal." So Larry introduces the guy to me and Tiffany, we shake-and-fake, and the guy waddles off a minute later. Thirty seconds later, the three of us mutter "Cunt!" in unison, realise we *all* have identified a slick poseur, and totally lose it in giggles...

We got the first uk issue of vice in the shop yesterday. Far from kicking 'the shit out of mealymouthed p.c. attitudes'. The attitudes it espouses the very bigoted attitudes that p.c. stands against and just plays into pc, anti pc hands. (I've mentioned here before about pc being a rightist/conservative divide and rule plot to promote bickering and schism within socialist ranks).

PC does need to be swept aside but from the left, unite against the establishment rather than divide ourselves for scraps from their table.

But I digress. Vice seems to me, and I'll study it more closely later today, to be like Bizarre, but full of cod polemic and with the depth of inquiry, but all of the puerile voyeurism.

Why do I get the feeling that when I finally get to see a copy of Vice magazine it's going to seem like the biggest letdown ever?

coke mirror on the cover is boring and derivative

Yes, there's a reason I call cocaine "Powdered Instant Asshole."

just add twat.

there's only one person I've met who doesn't become an instant arsehole on patent instant arsehole powder, he just becomes more encouraging of my schemes.