POLL: Money is real - y/n?

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In this thread ilx forthrightly takes a stand on whether or not money is real. The standard of reality it must meet in order to cross the threshold from imaginary to real is subject to debate and this provides a place to debate it.

Is money real?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
It is both real and unreal. 28
No, it is not real. 11
Yes, it is real. 8
Other - as explained below. 3


Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:24 (four years ago)

Only love is real

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:27 (four years ago)

everything is real

Left, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:31 (four years ago)

therefore everything is love

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:34 (four years ago)

everything is desire

Left, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:35 (four years ago)

money is terrible though

Left, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:36 (four years ago)

Regardless of whether it is real or not, it certainly must be funny

In the rich man’s world.

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:37 (four years ago)

i heard it changes everything

Left, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:37 (four years ago)

Hard to buy anything without it

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:38 (four years ago)

But not impossible.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:40 (four years ago)

Define money

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:41 (four years ago)

That which rules everything around me.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:42 (four years ago)

It's a gas, somewhere in the bottom left of the periodic table, iiric. So yes, real, but wispy.

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:42 (four years ago)

I voted “other” but I refuse to explain

Canon in Deez (silby), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:43 (four years ago)

As real as it gets, I think.

clemenza, Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:00 (four years ago)

money is real and they make it in Manhattan

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:01 (four years ago)

Money's unreal.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:06 (four years ago)

money makes the world go round. but the world is a vampire. and vampires will never hurt you. because I hurt myself today, just to see if I still feel. and you make me feel (mighty real) so yes, it must be funny, it's a rich man's world.

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:06 (four years ago)

Anyway, the answer is that if enough people believe in a fiction and deem it necessary to their collective existence said fiction becomes a reality. Money is thus both real and unreal.

Thought of the Day: We are like the spider. We weave our life & move along it. We are like the dreamer who dreams & then lives in the dream.

— David Lynch (@DAVID_LYNCH) February 10, 2009

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pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:11 (four years ago)

^^ the banality of reality.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:13 (four years ago)

lol I only clicked on the updated US pol thread just now. Apologies for the semi-earnest answer.

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:14 (four years ago)

https://img.ifunny.co/images/adc5530dff34dbe11f5da383c2985a9e3fec32b840fb37fa39e96785db5b7b67_1.jpg

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:15 (four years ago)

Super Nintendo
Sega Genesis
Money isn't real
I didn't have to pay for this

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:20 (four years ago)

moneybagg yo has all the world's money in a giant bagg

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:23 (four years ago)

pom otm. If we've learned nothing else of late, we can at least admit that reality and unreality are pretty far from fixed. What's even real, besides Q?

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:39 (four years ago)

NOTHINQ IS REAL

AND NOTHINQ TO QET HUNQ ABOUT

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:41 (four years ago)

sure. THEY could talk. THEY were rolling in it.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:49 (four years ago)

Btw it goes without saying that 'unreal' here stands for 'sick', 'awesome', 'rad', 'tubular', 'out of this world', 'groovy', 'deck', etc., right?

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:51 (four years ago)

ahh knew pomenitul was a ninja turtle

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:55 (four years ago)

https://media.tenor.com/images/9b8e5b7b89b1ee71e1d8c1558925c296/tenor.png

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:59 (four years ago)

Is a social construction real? Is “1pm” real?

Money and debt and credit are all more interesting when discussing how and for whom they function, are they not?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:29 (four years ago)

Is a social construction real? Is “1pm” real?

Money and debt and credit are all more interesting when discussing how and for whom they function, are they not?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:30 (four years ago)

Is a social construction real? Is “1pm” real?

Money and debt and credit are all more interesting when discussing how and for whom they function, are they not?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:30 (four years ago)

Is a social construction real? Is “1pm” real?

Money and debt and credit are all more interesting when discussing how and for whom they function, are they not?

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:30 (four years ago)

yes x3(x3)

Left, Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:33 (four years ago)

Money is barbarism, to me

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:35 (four years ago)

Ah dammit, can someone remove my double-posts?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:37 (four years ago)

I agree that presentation >>> representation.

But sometimes, maybe even most of the time, presentation is representation and representation is presentation. What then?

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:38 (four years ago)

TS: 'Taxman' vs. 'Strawberry Fields Forever'

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:39 (four years ago)

I would not give up McClane for all the gold in your Fort Knox

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:40 (four years ago)

"Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a yacht big enough to pull up right alongside it." — David Lee Roth

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:51 (four years ago)

Money is real, but there's a LOT of "clap your hands if you believe" as to why any currency or commodity is worth what the authorities say it's worth.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:12 (four years ago)



On the metaphysics of money

All cars are bad (Euler), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:20 (four years ago)

On the metaphysics of money

All cars are bad (Euler), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:21 (four years ago)

money was created by god r u saying god isn't real

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:22 (four years ago)

Hah, looks like Les Éditions du Cerf have expanded their range, although the author's other works are theology-adjacent, so it makes sense.

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:25 (four years ago)

He’s my colleague!

All cars are bad (Euler), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:26 (four years ago)

Nice. Looks like a neat little treatise!

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:28 (four years ago)

Yup. He’s been giving talks on it, i haven’t read it yet

All cars are bad (Euler), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:29 (four years ago)

the imaginary was related to the penis or lack thereof, i forget which, and i'm not going to look it up so that someone else can make a funny

sarahell, Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:35 (four years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:01 (four years ago)

Did we figure this one out?

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:08 (four years ago)

the polls are still open

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:33 (four years ago)

Money is not only real its pretty good stuff

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:53 (four years ago)

when debating whether people with rent and bills and other obligations who haven't worked in a year are worth $1400 or $2000: extremely real.

when it's time to sign off on another bi-partisan defense bill for a military that hasn't won a war in 75 years? not even the tiniest little bit

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:57 (four years ago)

so option "c" i guess

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:57 (four years ago)

How Can Money Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:00 (four years ago)

Can you show us the poll demonstrating that last one there pls

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:01 (four years ago)

Is Pink Floyd real? Is Dire Straits real?

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:03 (four years ago)

has the definition of real been established yet because it still beats me

Left, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:06 (four years ago)

'From Middle English real, from Old French reel, from Late Latin reālis (“actual”), from Latin rēs (“matter, thing”), from Proto-Indo-European *reh₁ís (“wealth, goods”).'

Therefore…

…money is the OG reality.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:07 (four years ago)

waiting for "Big" Dung to weigh in before I vote

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:08 (four years ago)

Anyone voting no, we'll ask em what they work for themselves i guess

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:10 (four years ago)

so vulgar materalism/economism is baked into our language and metaphysics that explains a lot

Left, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:11 (four years ago)

It's been like this since the neolithic at the very least.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:12 (four years ago)

Writing was invented to record specific amounts of livestock iirc.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:14 (four years ago)

sucks

Left, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:16 (four years ago)

Mallarmé: '…each person might find it sufficient, for exchanging human thought, to take or to place a coin silently in someone else's hand.' Presumably literature and/or poetry is different, he believed, but I have my doubts.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:18 (four years ago)

Survival has often (mainly) been vulgar

Holding yr nose every time you post is more than a little vulgar id argue but i dont mind vulgarity so much its just another flavour

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:21 (four years ago)

Homo sapiens was all about the hustle from day one, and doubtless before that as well.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:22 (four years ago)

Are days real

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:22 (four years ago)

Days are real, nights are unreal.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:24 (four years ago)

I just keep thinkin about my baby

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:26 (four years ago)

if we want to end the hustle we must go beyond the human then

actually if saying money is real is just a way of needling people who think it's (part of) a terrible thing then i might want to change my vote

Left, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:26 (four years ago)

Penguins exchange kewl-looking rocks for sex, per Herzog's Encounters at the End of the World. So post-animal's the ticket, perhaps, but technology is economic through and through.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:30 (four years ago)

Anyway pom this poll is a bit of a legpoll imo

What level of the transactional imperative metaphor is it you are asking us to test for material firmness here u scamp?

is btc real. is notes backed by credit and asset ledgerkeeping real, is a system to dole out power in a manageable way on a daily basis real, is needing to give yr neighbour a reason to feed and roof you when you are hungry and unsheltered real?

all of them are real but twould maybe allow for tabletop showiness from ilxors scarcely any more real than leaflets taught to type if you would perhaps show us where you yourself were having trouble

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:31 (four years ago)

Is internet politics real

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:32 (four years ago)

Are human emotions, right, real

I mean really real

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:33 (four years ago)

Undoubtedly not obv btw

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:33 (four years ago)

Just the momentary flavour of the meat

Where were we

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:34 (four years ago)

are we gonna blame pom now every time an inscrutable potentially didactic poll gets spun off of a politics thread

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:35 (four years ago)

Tbf I posted my semi-untrolly answer upthread: 'if enough people believe in a fiction and deem it necessary to their collective existence said fiction becomes a reality. Money is thus both real and unreal.'

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:36 (four years ago)

And OP is not yours truly.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:37 (four years ago)

Lol well i take 95% of the blame for that

Pom owns 5% because it is in fairness exactly poms type of poll imo

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:39 (four years ago)

Apparently Aimless's as well, which is… unexpected.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:40 (four years ago)

So youd say 10% maybe

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:40 (four years ago)

I did mildly revive the 'discussion', so 10% guilty as charged.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:40 (four years ago)

Kind of you, pleasure as always

scampsite (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 February 2021 01:41 (four years ago)

this poll is a bit of a legpoll imo

this poll is without guile. it is exactly what it purports to be.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Saturday, 13 February 2021 02:51 (four years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 14 February 2021 00:01 (four years ago)


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