post itt writers you think are bad

no need to explain yourself, thread is for catharsis not debate

ok i already regret this mods lock thread

j/k

these books are made for junkin

every single writer at every single metal site I regularly use for recommendations is bad

Goethe

ok lock thread now

There are many ways for a writer to be bad, many fewer ways for them to be good, and almost all of them yield somewhat mixed results. If they have a following, there's bound to be something mixed in with the crappy aspects that their followers rate much higher than you do, while what disgusts you hardly registers with their fans.

For me, the worst writers are not those who write appalingly bad sentences, but those who reinforce their audience's worst traits and convince them those traits, like selfishness, hatred or arrogance, are not really bad at all, but actually good in ways that others are too blind or stupid to see.

Or, I could just say 'Jordan Peterson' and leave it at that.

roth

stalin

noah berlatsky

Nathan J Robinson

Having read two of her books — one which I liked a lot until the end absolutely shit the bed, and one which I disliked all the way through — Ottessa Moshfegh.

lauren oyler

roth

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:39 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Crazy From the Heat is a great read

Orlando Bloom

jeet heer

neal stephenson

guy who wrote the Bible. boring af

uh, there were a bunch of guys who wrote it ... they even like named some of the books after themselves?

no i think it was a guy named Michael Bible?

All those postwar realist "big" American writers, Bellow, Updike, Roth etc

xpost Thx, very nearly sprayed a mouthful of soup across the room just then

Nathan J Robinson

he's a great choice for this thread

Joan Didion

dave marsh

Poe

Lovecraft

George Gissing

ben lerner

Brad i love you but this will just turn into yet another "the pictures are not on trial" fuckwits of ilx thread

i say "will"

Jurgen Habermas

Not sure if I entirely mean this or not but dang he can be a slog, however insightful

No bad writers, read everything.

this thread should have been about other ilxors only for that extra needle

I am a bad reader

I don’t necessarily think Ann Beattie is a bad writer, but I’m not sure whether she’s a good novelist.

https://bookandfilmglobe.com/fiction/book-review-a-wonderful-stroke-of-luck/

Read what terrifies you. Read tweets.

I don’t necessarily think Ann Beattie is a bad writer, but I’m not sure whether she’s a good novelist.

https://bookandfilmglobe.com/fiction/book-review-a-wonderful-stroke-of-luck/

― We’re Up All Night To Get Lochte (Raymond Cummings), S

I have the same problem with her stories. I read ...Dana Falcon at the start of lockdown.

going for maximum controversy here, everyone ready?

David Walliams

Brad i love you but this will just turn into yet another "the pictures are not on trial" fuckwits of ilx thread

― The Scampo Fell to Earth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, February 13, 2021 5:27 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i feel like “this thread is a terrible idea” is there subtextually in the opening posts

Anyway Comrade Alph otm everything is good nothing is forbidden lol for biden

it is important to recognize what is bad so it can not be respected and/or repeated

ok yeah i know that recognizing it doesn't actually help

My moaning about other people's moaning is just as bad

Anyway D H Lawrence is for shit

otm

I dig many of his poems and stories, though I'm frightened about rereading WIL.

Bob Vickery

lol

https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

― mookieproof, Monday, November 17, 2025 6:15 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

making the biggest bowl of popcorn of all time over here

haha

it’s so good

someone compile all the quotes about how she's both a magnificent journalist and writer of prose

This is really off-topic, but the preview images on the front page of lizza’s substack are all so off-putting (the ones of his interviews with various dudes). I guess it’s something to do with the hyper-detailed resolution of cameras these days? But in any case the image up top, which SHOULD be extremely off-putting, as it’s one of the famous pictures of trump/melania/epstein/ghislaine, looks comparatively “normal”, as it’s an older photo taken with whatever digital or pre-digital cameras would have been used at that time. By contrast the preview images for the interviews look (to me, anyhow) kind of freakish. The way we “see” people in everyday life is nothing like that — unless we are staring fixedly and intently at someone in an extremely harshly lit space. Sorry, that just jumped out at me…

> (sorry britishes)

no need to apologise - none of the britishers can see the imgur link anyway

It somehow ultimately conveyed a deep understanding of him that was very affecting

This is so funny to me. To each their own, but I feel like I know nothing about the guy in Flesh.

That Lizza writing is terrible, too. Can they not help but write like that? Thanks for putting in the brands of the backpack and the hotel chain as cultural signifiers you fucking dork

That’s when I noticed the sheets of Kimpton Hotel stationery that would alter the course of our lives.

Worthy of Conrad.

We moved into a three-story townhouse in Georgetown, where we hosted intimate dinners and threw parties for our friends in media and politics.

If any sentence is The Reveal...

as someone who used to inhabit new york media circles i find all of this totally hilarious and i hope it gets worse

American Canto is such a portentous and goofy title for any book, much less a memoir about how you blew up your life sexting one of the grossest men on the planet.

Writing terribly isn't the problem here, unfortunately.

we should probably not clutter the bad writing thread, but... the writing is really, really bad

American Can't O (Except with a Leathery Presidential Candidate Twice Her Age)

oh noooo

Time to recall that previously, yhe most famous writer of cantos was Ezra Pound.

Famous racist

Spent 12 years in a lunatic asylum

So that tracks

at least Pound pruned buddy/racist T.S. Eliot's most famous poem.

Nuzzi’s writing was not as bad and self important when she wrote gossipy inside the beltway columns. I remember vaguely thinking she was funny, and not knowing much else about her, before this rfk scandal broke.

Her cantos is a reference to dante not pound

Okay I should have specified most prominent American canto aficionado

i mean she probably had editors for those columns

guys

https://www.popjustice.com/briefing/thats-livvy-alright/

Oh come on

omg

https://web.archive.org/web/20090912075038/https://myspace.com/officiallivvymusic

https://web.archive.org/web/20090912073829im_/http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r7/mike_maroney/graphics/livvy/ani1.gif

What the

The day that Madonna released "Erotica"
The day that Andy Warhol made his first film
The day that Freddie Mercury sang his last note
The day that Judy Garland conceived Liza Minnelli
The day that Britney Spears told you to hit it one more time
The day that Cher first met a sequin
The day that Candy Darling took her last breath
The day that Mick Jagger first strut across a stage
The day that Pamela Anderson was introduced to silicone
The day that David Bowie sang "Lady Stardust"
The day that Michael Jackson first slipped on a white glove
... was the day that Livvy was born

16 year old former wilhelmina model?!

I kind of feel bad for this lady but also not

Looks like her Twitter handle until early 2011 was @livvypop. She's deleted most of her tweets from that era, but you can still see other people's replies to her tweets (include adult men flirting with her).

https://www.telos.news/p/part-2-she-did-it-again

wouldn’t recommend eating while reading this one

full text:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZcXumCPn2HSJm3WZ6Lr5VdHFeFFODW8c5q0nGj-dX6I/edit?usp=drivesdk

yr open mouth awaiting my harvest

How has her ex fiancé never heard of felching?

"I am a reporter."

"What do you report on?"

"Things. Nice things. I am not the reporter of sex."

going to be vulnerable here and admit that i have heard the term but i forget what it refers to

Think rimming + swallowing. Then maybe go lie down for a while.

i wasn't asking for an explanation

I don’t understand why Lizza is publishing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B6ck7O6BBU

I don’t understand why Lizza is publishing this.

"What, and leave show business?"

big day for a certain word on google pic.twitter.com/NogzsEhbbN

— Rachel Karten (@milkkarten) November 22, 2025

Ok so this is the thread where we are discussing these awful writers!

I got to the paragraph of his that was basically “heyyyy guys I’m getting laiiiiiiiiiiid” and figured ilxors were already on it lol

it's so gross

I do feel better about my taste in men because not even the worst, most cringeworthy dude I have had a thing with has said anything nearly as gross as “Your open mouth awaiting my harvest”

Xp - re jailbait link — “file under ke$ha”

omg

https://web.archive.org/web/20090912075038/https://myspace.com/officiallivvymusic

― jaymc, Tuesday, November 18, 2025 9:48 AM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

One of her top friends is Amanda Palmer

and yet:
https://xcancel.com/search?f=tweets&q=From%3Aolivianuzzi+%22amanda+palmer%22

guys who are really into their own cum are bad news