post itt writers you think are bad

no need to explain yourself, thread is for catharsis not debate

ok i already regret this mods lock thread

j/k

these books are made for junkin

every single writer at every single metal site I regularly use for recommendations is bad

Goethe

ok lock thread now

There are many ways for a writer to be bad, many fewer ways for them to be good, and almost all of them yield somewhat mixed results. If they have a following, there's bound to be something mixed in with the crappy aspects that their followers rate much higher than you do, while what disgusts you hardly registers with their fans.

For me, the worst writers are not those who write appalingly bad sentences, but those who reinforce their audience's worst traits and convince them those traits, like selfishness, hatred or arrogance, are not really bad at all, but actually good in ways that others are too blind or stupid to see.

Or, I could just say 'Jordan Peterson' and leave it at that.

roth

stalin

noah berlatsky

Nathan J Robinson

Having read two of her books — one which I liked a lot until the end absolutely shit the bed, and one which I disliked all the way through — Ottessa Moshfegh.

lauren oyler

roth

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:39 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Crazy From the Heat is a great read

Orlando Bloom

jeet heer

neal stephenson

guy who wrote the Bible. boring af

uh, there were a bunch of guys who wrote it ... they even like named some of the books after themselves?

no i think it was a guy named Michael Bible?

All those postwar realist "big" American writers, Bellow, Updike, Roth etc

xpost Thx, very nearly sprayed a mouthful of soup across the room just then

Nathan J Robinson

he's a great choice for this thread

Joan Didion

dave marsh

Poe

Lovecraft

George Gissing

ben lerner

Brad i love you but this will just turn into yet another "the pictures are not on trial" fuckwits of ilx thread

i say "will"

Jurgen Habermas

Not sure if I entirely mean this or not but dang he can be a slog, however insightful

No bad writers, read everything.

this thread should have been about other ilxors only for that extra needle

I am a bad reader

I don’t necessarily think Ann Beattie is a bad writer, but I’m not sure whether she’s a good novelist.

https://bookandfilmglobe.com/fiction/book-review-a-wonderful-stroke-of-luck/

Read what terrifies you. Read tweets.

I don’t necessarily think Ann Beattie is a bad writer, but I’m not sure whether she’s a good novelist.

https://bookandfilmglobe.com/fiction/book-review-a-wonderful-stroke-of-luck/

― We’re Up All Night To Get Lochte (Raymond Cummings), S

I have the same problem with her stories. I read ...Dana Falcon at the start of lockdown.

going for maximum controversy here, everyone ready?

David Walliams

Brad i love you but this will just turn into yet another "the pictures are not on trial" fuckwits of ilx thread

― The Scampo Fell to Earth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, February 13, 2021 5:27 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i feel like “this thread is a terrible idea” is there subtextually in the opening posts

Anyway Comrade Alph otm everything is good nothing is forbidden lol for biden

it is important to recognize what is bad so it can not be respected and/or repeated

ok yeah i know that recognizing it doesn't actually help

My moaning about other people's moaning is just as bad

Anyway D H Lawrence is for shit

otm

I dig many of his poems and stories, though I'm frightened about rereading WIL.

Bob Vickery

https://www.telos.news/p/part-2-she-did-it-again

wouldn’t recommend eating while reading this one

full text:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZcXumCPn2HSJm3WZ6Lr5VdHFeFFODW8c5q0nGj-dX6I/edit?usp=drivesdk

yr open mouth awaiting my harvest

How has her ex fiancé never heard of felching?

"I am a reporter."

"What do you report on?"

"Things. Nice things. I am not the reporter of sex."

going to be vulnerable here and admit that i have heard the term but i forget what it refers to

Think rimming + swallowing. Then maybe go lie down for a while.

i wasn't asking for an explanation

I don’t understand why Lizza is publishing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B6ck7O6BBU

I don’t understand why Lizza is publishing this.

"What, and leave show business?"

big day for a certain word on google pic.twitter.com/NogzsEhbbN

— Rachel Karten (@milkkarten) November 22, 2025

Ok so this is the thread where we are discussing these awful writers!

I got to the paragraph of his that was basically “heyyyy guys I’m getting laiiiiiiiiiiid” and figured ilxors were already on it lol

it's so gross

I do feel better about my taste in men because not even the worst, most cringeworthy dude I have had a thing with has said anything nearly as gross as “Your open mouth awaiting my harvest”

Xp - re jailbait link — “file under ke$ha”

omg

https://web.archive.org/web/20090912075038/https://myspace.com/officiallivvymusic

― jaymc, Tuesday, November 18, 2025 9:48 AM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

One of her top friends is Amanda Palmer

and yet:
https://xcancel.com/search?f=tweets&q=From%3Aolivianuzzi+%22amanda+palmer%22

guys who are really into their own cum are bad news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIgW5QaT65Y

https://newrepublic.com/article/203590/olivia-nuzzi-rfk-jr-lizza-vaccines

thought we had left this stuff in the 2010s, but maybe not

Olivia Nuzzi is not the reason RFK is in the position he is right now.

that’s not the point of this story lol

It is assigning way too much power to Olivia Nuzzi to credit or blame her for RFK.

I wonder if Elizabeth Gilbert is mad that some other people are having a public trainwreck publicity tour right on the heels of hers.

i'm only now realizing lizza is twenty years older than nuzzi

also i hadn't seen the NYT puff piece, it is so embarrassing for the NYT that they published that

we’re just pointing and laughing at nuzzi, who deserves it, it’s not really any deeper than that

xp

i mean, it's true that for me this is more trash celebrity gossip / literary clusterfuck than it is some kind of story with a deeper social or political meaning

however, though i'm willing to grant that there are some people who are just straight-up narcissists and want to fuck really powerful people for whatever self-aggrandizing reasons, i think the article absolutely blames olivia nuzzi for RFK's ascent to power and the horrible things he's inflicting on USA, and it's really fucking bizarre and more than a little misogynistic

The only thing you need to know about Olivia Nuzzi is that she used her position of power, as a journalist, to advise and elevate the world’s most prominent anti-vaccine activist to the most influential health position in the United States.

?

he is a fucking KENNEDY and i promise you nobody who isn't a weird politics freak has ever even heard of her

I think olivia nuzzi should not have slept with the presidential candidate she was covering

Ok but

"Position of power, as a journalist" is an odd phrase to see in the year of our lord two thousand twenty-five, itellyouwhat

The awesome power of (checks notes) print journalism

this is a thread about writers being bad. nuzzi was a useless reactionary even before she started to sleep with presidential candidates. I’d prefer that her comeuppance be related to her awful journalism itself, but I’ll accept what we’re currently working with

xp i think it would've been fair to say that it's a position of trust and that journalistic ethics exists because there's a presumption that journalists serve the public and if you're writing puff pieces about the governor you're fucking, then you're not really doing that and on some level people might get upset about that. but obviously these people never even think in terms of ethics except when it's convenient for them, they are so obviously motivated by wealth and fame and rubbing shoulders with the ruling class, it's honestly pretty annoying that they ever have the gall to act like they are part of this noble brotherhood of truth tellers when in fact so many of them are utter leeches and scum

to advise and elevate the world’s most prominent anti-vaccine activist to the most influential health position in the United States.

RFK Jr elevated himself to his cabinet position by the simple expedient of buying it from Trump in return for his endorsement and millions of dollars in cash. I dunno, maybe Nuzzi masterminded that deal, but it hardly took a political genius to see Trump was corrupt enough to make that deal.

The way it is phrased is so paint by numbers. “Hey chat gpt, condemn olivia nuzzi using 2025 buzzwords about privilege and power and platforming and that kind of jazz. Make this tawdry sex scandal *serious.*”

*2015 buzzwords meant to say

agreed

i keep clicking on this thread because i like the people posting in it but the topic is just .. i don't see any value at all in it, there isn't a take on earth that could give it a smidgen of edification, you guys should post about movies you like instead.

I am glad I don’t have to go to a large Thanksgiving gathering where someone is likely to use the word “harvest.”

Are RFK’s cum musings the worst (non-criminal) celebrity sexts to have been leaked?

I am glad I don’t have to go to a large Thanksgiving gathering where someone is likely to use the word “harvest.”

(whispers into george bush’s ear) part three has dropped

this is like the politico trapped in the closet

Hahaha, "dropped".

this is like the politico trapped in the closet

haha

btw https://gofile.io/d/Ap4v35

the way he calls RFK jr “bobby” throughout is kind of sending me

Anybody here
Seen my old friend Bobby

new lizza installment kind of boring