what is your average yearly income (after taxes)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULLpy_WyJds

Here, it's a circle, not a box.

Not enough, obv.

I appreciate the coward’s option

apologies for not including a negative dollars option

Between $30K and $40K

just taking the opportunity to give a big THUMBS DOWN to all ilxors who make more money than me. greedy fux0rz

between $40k and $50k USD

oh i mean $30k and 40k USD (misread the bit about taxes)

are we doing individual or household income?

Simon saith: 'also we're talking individual income not "household income".'

IRS sting operation

In collaboration with the CRA.

lol ooops

xxp

its a moot point bc i make 4 billion dollars from ppl streaming pics of my ass on the net

In collaboration with the CRA.

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the CRA actually owe me this year because of being able to write-off work from home expenses. not that i have actually bothered to mail in my taxes yet (i am locked out of my CRA account lol)

my after tax income is b/w 40-50k but i accidentally voted before tax income so ignore me 4ever bc i cant read (im a teacher)

lol

if I had gone with household income my number would not have changed

Never enough.

Hmm how do i account for the mandatory occupational pension deductions and should i ratio for US/Ireland gnp or w/e?

I clicked as seemed appropriate anyway

I can't even remember the last time I thought about my after-tax yearly income. I stopped receiving physical paystubs ages ago.

Why after taxes? That’s not how I keep score.

lol income

LOL I'm so poor. Not that I'm bothered about it tbh.

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I would consider that income

I was between 30 and 40 but I just recently received the biggest raise I've gotten in decades.

(Spoiler: I am still between 30 and 40, sad lol.)

Just checked exchange rate and i undershot by a bracket €€€€€

Hours worked per week is where the euros will really clean up.

like other ppl, i didnt read that it was meant to be after tax :( :(

these errors will be noted

xxp (to myself) Hours worked per week poll

Between 40k and 50k after taxes. Yet it disappears fast

i live off the state i hate it's awesome

not really but fuck a career

high 20s but sometimes bonuses and things bump it up so I rounded up to 30-40, that's the american dream baby 😎

After a lifetime in which my household income hovered between wholly inadequate to barely adequate, I'm gobsmacked to admit our annual income has somehow jumped up to around $75,000 after taxes. If it were just up to me, I'd be giving away about 20% of that, but at least I have recently convinced my wife to give away a bit more than 10%.

It feels to me like we can live like royalty on something like $55,000 to $60,000/year, since we have no mortgage. Having money to burn feels weird. I'm used to clipping coupons, scanning ads for bargains, and wearing out clothes until they're frayed and stained.

I fucked up and voted my household income instead of my own

I am 50-60k

between my inability to remember my own salary, taxes, and pretax contributions, i have no fucking idea

Yeah, I guessed. I don’t really get why the question was for post-tax. Don’t people usually think of salaries in pre-tax terms? They do in the UK, anyway.

Post tax 40-50. Pre tax 50-60. Converted from £. Household income pre tax jumps to circa 80. If my wife worked full time it would double as we work at the same place and are on the same salary band.

My business fell off a cliff post-Brexit/this lockdown. Voted 10-20 but honestly could be less atm. Have put more back in to try and turn it around though

That sucks. I hope it works out ok.

Don’t people usually think of salaries in pre-tax terms? They do in the UK, anyway.

It's less depressing that way.

Income should probably be declared in terms of how much walkin' around money we have after are financial responsibilities are deducted. Under those terms, I'm at least a solid hundredaire.

are our, jesus christ

Every week or..

"what's your allowance?" will be next

Last year I got just over $2300 from credit card cash back, from four cards. I think that included one sign up bonus.

I also got a sign up bonus on a card early last year, after I used it to buy plane tickets for my family. Then COVID happened, and my hours got cut down at work, so I took the CC points as cash. Then the plane tickets got canceled so I got the refund but my acct showed an ominous negative point balance. I canceled the card expecting to have to repay the points, likely more than I got back as cash, but was shocked when they closed it no questions asked. Would recommend this strategy

not too hard to figure out who the >150k ers are based on occupation and city of residence

as for the commercial banks who process those transactions, they set that fee high enough that they are raking in hundreds of millions in profits every quarter. it's all extremely lucrative and essentially risk free, in light of the massive interest they charge for carrying a balance and the heavy penalties they levy for struggling to meet minimum payments.

yes, this is the apex of capitalism ... if you hate it so, why do you tend to be so condescending to leftist ilxors who share this opinion?

Go fuck yourself

xp that q was loaded to ensure your own opinion is conveyed, but no self-respecting person would answer it. making it, almost, shall I say it?

Who needs to fuck themselves

what, in this economy?!

my opinion based on at least half a dozen other ilxors calling you out for the same thing?

you're asking me? I should think you'd be better informed about that.

what is happening now, who is fucking themselves and why

Aimless posts in a voice that is consistent between posts that agree or disagree with leftist ilxors.

Perhaps Aimless should be re-monikered "Pointless"

Ok, so there's some other thread then

I was hesitant at first, but I'll cop to being one of the people in the top bracket, which I'm sure some people have guessed anyway. I've only been there a few years - I didn't go to law school until 7 years after I finished college, and even after law school I didn't have high-paying jobs in the early years. I can vouch for the fact that, yeah, it makes a big difference to your quality of life and peace of mind as long as you aren't an idiot about it (i.e. don't spend all the way up to your income increases). IDK if money buys "happiness" but it can definitely buy OK-ness. A lot of life's stresses can be reduced by money, that's what I've learned, and conversely it's only more clear to me how much stress can result from not having it.

All that said, I think with a stronger safety net (eg universal healthcare) and without that particularly American sense of fear of falling, I would be fine with much less. I don't really care about nice cars (one of ours is still a 10yo scratched up honda), I don't really like to travel, I don't enjoy high-end restaurants much, I don't golf or play tennis, I'm find with the many parts of my house that are "not updated." After peace of mind, time is the biggest luxury and I'm always happier when I can be with my kids or play guitar than I am doing anything that costs money.

There was some research a while ago that said increased income was correlated with increased happiness up to about £60k a year ($85k) and after that there was no discernible link. But guessing that figure must vary across different economies. I also remember something about the biggest factor after a certain point wasn't how much you were earning but how much you were earning in comparison to what you thought your friends and neighbours were earning.

i'm not rich but let's just say my mental health improved leaps and bounds when I suddenly didn't have to worry about my bills. and the one period in 2011 where I was temporarily cash short, old, lingering anxieties came rushing back immediately.

this is why people give me shit when I worry about costs of things ("come the fuck on, Rob, you have money to do this!"), which offends me cos it's like....after my folks basically wiped themselves out and depended on me and my bro for years, how is it bad that I want to prevent that?

as it stands I am on pace to retire with as little as they have, I just plan to die in my mid-50s

#mygeneration

xxp - inherited wealth (or poverty) is a real factor that I think it's good that people are talking about more. Like, income is only part of the picture -- the other part is assets and liabilities. Do you (or the old people you stand to inherit from) have real estate valued at more than the debt owed on it? Is there money in bonds, stocks, etc. that you might get like $40 a year in "income" from, but could be liquidated for a lot more? Money in the dozen or so types of tax-deferred retirement savings accounts that exist now?

idk most of my clients are in their 20s - 40s and like, for the most part, I can tell whether their parents/families are affluent or not based on the adult child's tax documents.

, I don't golf or play tennis,

i recently started playing tennis recently its super fun also basically free if u play at public courts, recommended

There was some research a while ago that said increased income was correlated with increased happiness up to about £60k a year ($85k)

There was a follow on to this that found that happiness continues increasing (which is 100% unsurprising IMO, hopping between your ski chalet and your beach house is fun).

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2016976118

spitballing but I'd imagine that unhappiness levels off at that lower range (where you're probably not living in fear day to day) while happiness continues increasing well into the millions

If I had several million dollars I’d definitely be at least a little bit happier

i recently started playing tennis recently its super fun also basically free if u play at public courts, recommended

And don't they have public golf courses in the US?

Oh god, dont

whenever I cut through my local tennis/cricket/bowling club it seems like a very cliquey and forbidding place and I often have some fun "you staring at me, fucker?" competitions if anyone is there. They have a sign up at the Tennis Courts: "Playing is better than spectating, give it a try!" but I'd imagine it's not as inclusive as that if you aren't somewhere on the gammony white-van driving yeomanry to outright posh motherfucker Tory spectrum. lol Theresa May held a press conference in the clubhouse during the 2017 GE campaign.

And don't they have public golf courses in the US?

Plenty of room for both over there.

Yes, they should be replaced with housing.

Slight disagree. Public courses should be kept, it's the private golf clubs that should be razed for housing first.

Any golf course within city limits is an affront, pretty much benefits the fewest people per square mile per year or whatever of any conceivable land use.

and every mini-golf course, a mini-affront

Minigolf is good

you can't host the countywide high school cross country championship at a mini-golf course, can you? can you!?

I like playing Golf Rival on my phone, but I only want to play real golf if the golf club is actually a gun and the ball is a golf-nazi.

i want a mat and one of those big nets to hit into. i don't know how to play, but that sounds relaxing. playing golf badly out in the open where everyone can see me? and paying for it? no thanks.

golf should be simulated. played within a small square in each player's garden. everybody has a garden because of the affordable housing that replaced golf courses.

Golden Tee on Twitch will replace professional irl golf

Like most sports and games, golf is way better if you don't keep score. /controp

Any golf course within city limits is an affront, pretty much benefits the fewest people per square mile per year or whatever of any conceivable land use.

― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, May 27, 2021 8:35 AM (five hours ago)

OTM ... I hate golf; I don't really want to play lacrosse either tho

should be replaced with mini lacrosse

so sick and tired of this golf/lax false dilemma way of thinking

Chuck the golf ball down the fairway with a lacrosse stick if you want to!

One of my fondest and most hilarious memories is walking with my best friend and her ancient mad scientist dad on our local municipal golf course and N’s dad kept picking up golf balls and handing them to us. Minutes later, confused golfers appeared looking for them.

I should try that

You have to make sure you’re not actually taking them from the green, but instead take the ones hit into the rough because terrible golfers are easily confused. N wound up taking up golf so as not to be excluded from career stuff by preppy decision makers who’d decide everything in the clubhouse the weekend before meetings, if you get me.

ah, yet another terrible facet of the game

I'd imagine it's not as inclusive as that if you aren't somewhere on the gammony white-van driving yeomanry to outright posh motherfucker Tory spectrum

im not on this spectrum, still like tennis, don’t really find it exclusive i just play w my friends and occasionally doubles w strangers

i played tennis as a teenager; there was a public court at the public elementary school near my house. The equipment needed isn't expensive ... like it didn't cost any more than the bowling ball with my name engraved on it ... if we want to talk about sports with opposing class alignments.

Still though, my high school team always lost to Monterey High (perhaps the most affluent school in our league). Monterey High also played matches against other schools on the Peninsula including Carmel High and some of the private schools (e.g. Robert Louis Stevenson), and would regularly lose to those two schools, which were even more affluent than Monterey High.

bowling ball with my name engraved on it ...

way to out yourself as gammony white-van driving yeomanry

oi mate!

things youd be glad to be irish about, reading back, in order:

- not having to performatively hate golf
- the price of health insurance