A year in the making, with results collated from 60 ballots and 2,182 nominated films (438 of which received no votes, so). Pour one out for Morbs and lets get this show on the road ... starting Monday!
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― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Friday, 22 October 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link
We’ve had this date coming for a long time, Eric.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 October 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link
Morbius, Morbius, Morbius!
Here’s hoping all your hard work ain’t been in vain for nothing.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 October 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link
Hello! This is a demonstration of a polling rollout!
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 October 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link
oh boy
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 22 October 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link
brilliant! I once again pledge to watch h the whole top 100, at least the ones I haven't seen before.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 22 October 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link
excited for this poll to finally confirm that the greatest film of all time is indeed 'green book'
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Friday, 22 October 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
Yay!! And that's the pic I took of him at David Zwirner when we found out we could actually touch Richard Serra'sFour Rounds: Equal Weight, Unequal Measure. Original pic here.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 22 October 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link
Don't understand why people nominated films they weren't voting for? "Here's a great film, someone (not me) should vote for it!"
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 23 October 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link
I nominated a load of films but in the end didn’t submit a ballot. I don’t know if I was the only one.
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 23 October 2021 08:00 (three years ago) link
Thought a lot of the nominations were merely cut and paste by Eric from somewhere as suggestions. Also should lol because there were a multitude of posts on the prior thread to the effect of “Hey, where are the nominations?” “You don’t need them see previous discussion here” etc.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 11:53 (three years ago) link
yep
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 October 2021 11:54 (three years ago) link
Then there was even one post collecting all of those.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 12:15 (three years ago) link
ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: Voting And Campaigning Thread (Ballots Due Like I Dunno Maybe March 1, 2021?)
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 12:29 (three years ago) link
Oh I missed the start yesterday cos drinking and that pic of Morbs has made me fill up
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 October 2021 13:00 (three years ago) link
I pledge to not watch any of the terrible movies that will have numskulled their way into the 100
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 October 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link
Thought a lot of the nominations were merely cut and paste by Eric from somewhere as suggestions.
I did automatically add all of the top 1,000 TSPDT movies as nominees, so that accounts for a little less than half the movies in the overall pool.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:17 (three years ago) link
That being said, I think I also ended up having to line-item add at least 200 or so movies as I tabulated ballots.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link
Ha, I tried to make it difficult for you as a I got to the bottom of my ballot, no doubt others started earlier.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link
When did TSPDT first do that poll? Date on website seems recent.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:26 (three years ago) link
Isn't this a lovely thread? The ILX film poll. What a lovely, clever name. Where the elite meet. Never have I seen so much elite -- and all with their eyes on Eric.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:26 (three years ago) link
All About Eric
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:27 (three years ago) link
Fasten your seatbelts, ILX, we're in for a bumpy ride.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:28 (three years ago) link
I wish I could've gone to Radcliffe too, Soto, but father wouldn't hear of it. He needed help behind a notions counter. I'm being rude now, aren't I? Or should I say, "Ain't I?"
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:28 (three years ago) link
Awright, stoked for some rolling rollout!
― Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link
A milkshake?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link
Bumpy ridenight, sorry
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:54 (three years ago) link
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― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 October 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link
Haven't you heard of science's latest triumph, the doorbell?
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 15:05 (three years ago) link
Sorry, making a reference to this exchange
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 15:13 (three years ago) link
And then this, later
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 15:15 (three years ago) link
i hope some awful trash places
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 October 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link
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― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
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― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link
wooooooooooooooo! can't wait!
― Jeff Hornacek walks into a bar with (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link
is it going to be a top 100?
Indeed, 100 killers, no fillers.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link
Monster Horror Killer Theater. So scary! Ah-ooh!joeflaherty.jpg
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link
Wondering if SCTV ever did any Warhol/Morrissey movie send-ups, as I am imagining, or trying to imagine, Joe Flaherty instead of Joe Dallesandro in Trash.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link
We had to rush to throw together ballots when they closed - time to send revisions now?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link
Sorry, the order is finito, and I don't want you retracting your vote for Bloodsucking Freaks.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link
anything that places will now officially be "not awful trash"
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link
Preview of coming attraction: Several movies that placed got Morbs "gold" and "silver" medals from the two-tier ballot I curated last fall of his top 25 and runners-up.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link
(About one quarter of the top 100 are medaling films.)
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link
hoping this places tbh https://metrograph.com/the-church-of-fun/
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 23 October 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
Roll picture!
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 24 October 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PtdpI-D6mM
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 24 October 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link
Last call to mix your stiff cocktail before the rollout begins!
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― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 25 October 2021 12:51 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYoMKVOslhg
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 25 October 2021 13:09 (three years ago) link
Yes, just saw those other cast members! Looks pretty intriguing.
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 November 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2RALZ18z88
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 November 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link
xps to xyzzzz__ this is particularly uncomfortable given the…allusions…the source material makes to real world events
― suggest bainne (gyac), Monday, 8 November 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link
What, like Hiroshima?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 November 2021 21:55 (three years ago) link
You saw nothing in Hiroshima.
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 November 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuBIz0G_pls
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 November 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
Gosar is a pox on this thread
― Dan S, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 01:32 (three years ago) link
ugh
― Dan S, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link
^^The Important Thing Is To Love, which also has Jacques Dutronc and Klaus Kinski!
Shows up in Françoise Hardy's autobio, she was very worried Dutronc would fall for Schneider and leave her.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 09:12 (three years ago) link
just saw Sans Soleil, what an amazing film. I plan to see it again but as many times as I could watch it I don’t think I will ever be able to absorb it all
― Dan S, Sunday, 14 November 2021 03:06 (three years ago) link
its fun to watch in a movie marathon with la jetée and vertigo
― plax (ico), Sunday, 14 November 2021 09:52 (three years ago) link
So good, and you barely started on Marker (if that's your first by him).
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 November 2021 10:28 (three years ago) link
also watched La Jetée, which is even harder to parse
― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:19 (three years ago) link
it was the inspiration for twelve monkeys if that helps.
― koogs, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link
Hard to parse, you say?
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:39 (three years ago) link
:)
There are a couple of others available on the Criterion Channel and one on Kanopy, I will watch, but among his 67 credits there is nothing else I can find right now, including on dvd
― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link
Tonight I watched one of the films I hadn't seen: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I really liked the structure and timing; the opening crawl and graveyard shots set up the tension, then large segments of the first half of the movie are hippie kids wandering through meadows like some anodyne public television footage I might have watched as a little kid. Many of the most horrific scenes take place on a sunny afternoon or a pale dawn; two of the characters don't even realize they're in danger until two-thirds of the way through. It's definitely true what Clemenza said above that the most horrible scenes are also the most funny. I was also pleased to find that none of the film had been spoiled for me by being quoted or memed (or maybe I just haven't encountered it).
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:58 (three years ago) link
I should totally have voted for TCM. It's better than Georgy Girl, or whatever shit I put at 25
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 03:03 (three years ago) link
the scene with the takenoko-zoku dance troupe in Tokyo in Sans Soleil was really great
― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 03:26 (three years ago) link
everyone should retire at age 20? not sure I heard that right
― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 03:30 (three years ago) link
there was so much that went by in that film
― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 03:40 (three years ago) link
There really is, and as many times as I've seen it, I find myself catching something new in between the bouts of me nodding my head "yes" constantly.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 13:54 (three years ago) link
“The Stargate sequence in 2001 has dated worse than most special effects from that era - feels like something you'd see in some psychsploitation film - and make it v difficult to tune in to the film's idea of transcendence imo”
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, November 5, 2021
that is not true at all, it still feels transcendental. When was a sequence like this ever imagined before
― Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:00 (three years ago) link
By Brakhage.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:03 (three years ago) link
they are very different
― Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:13 (three years ago) link
Kael compared the Stargate sequence (not favorably, to put it mildly) to another filmmaker--checked back, and it wasn't Brakhage but Jordan Belson, who I don't know at all. But this does suggest a strong influence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFA29CsDRe0
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link
oh come on
― Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:28 (three years ago) link
I'm not saying it's better. I'm not saying anything except there's clearly some similarity, and I suspect Kubrick was aware of it's existence. (Belson wasn't working with a major studio and a big budget, and it was 1959.)
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:32 (three years ago) link
there is no comparison
― Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link
Okay, Dan S.--Kevin's wrong, Kael's wrong, I'm wrong. Stargate is sui generis.
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:43 (three years ago) link
:) I respect your point of view, but think it is!
― Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:46 (three years ago) link
This won't change your mind, but you should find this piece interesting:
https://offscreen.com/view/beyond_the_infinite
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:51 (three years ago) link
The one thing I got above all else from Michael Benson's 2001 book (and it's not one of my favourite films, but one that interests me a great deal) is that Kubrick was hyper-attuned to everything around him in the culture--like Godard, or Dylan, or Warhol around the same time--and that he grabbed at anything he thought he could use. That's not a criticism at all, far from it. He's still the one who took all that stuff and turned it into something.
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 03:48 (three years ago) link
its certainly fair to bring up Jordan Belson as an antecedent to the stargate sequence, but Kael calling the sequence "third rate" Belson has got to be one of the looniest challops of her career. iirc in the Benson book Trumbull IDs John Whitney (who did the animation in Vertigo) as one of his main influences on the sequence
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 3 December 2021 03:57 (three years ago) link
I thought that was way off too.
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 03:57 (three years ago) link
I read that Kubrick did attempt to get a contemporary experimental filmmaker to help create the Stargate sequence, but I don't remember who now.
Last week I watched John Carpenter 's The Thing from this list. It was well done, but I'm the sort of horror-film viewer who watches avidly in the early "ominous" scenes where helicopters land on empty patches of snow or someone walks down an empty corridor. By the later scenes, when blood is geysering and chest cavities are imploding, I'm shrugging. It also seemed to me that the threat the Thing posed was whatever Carpenter decided it needed to be from scene-to-scene. First it has to hide inside a human being, but all of a sudden it can tear through the ground like a submarine going 100 miles an hour? I didn't feel the film was playing fair with expectations. But one detail I liked was that the cast was large enough that I really didn't get a handle on who each character was until most of them were dead; it kept me guessing about the human drama.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 December 2021 04:11 (three years ago) link
that is not true at all, it still feels transcendental.
Pfft, seen it a bunch of times and haven't transcended once.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 3 December 2021 10:17 (three years ago) link
I'll transcend you.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 3 December 2021 13:17 (three years ago) link
Mikhail Kalatozov's The Cranes Are Flying is a pretty great film, looking forward to I Am Cuba
― Dan S, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 02:53 (two years ago) link
Funny, Cranes has been on my mind this week as one to revisit. Of the two, Cranes is the better film in terms of storytelling - the drama & acting in I Am Cuba are pretty cartoonish, but Cuba's rep for eye-popping visuals is well deserved
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 13:32 (two years ago) link
have been reading this thread again, it is the best ilx film thread ever
― Dan S, Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:48 (two years ago) link
even better than the 101 Directors poll, which was also great:
All Right, Mr. DeMille, I'm Ready For My Close-Up ... It's The ILXOR's Top 101 Director Poll Results Thread
― Dan S, Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:50 (two years ago) link
does anyone know when the 2022 S&S poll will come out?
― Dan S, Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:51 (two years ago) link
I don’t even know who is getting ballots. Everyone I’ve asked has said they haven’t (so far)
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:54 (two years ago) link
I read on twitter today that the call for ballots has now gone out. I hope the films critics here will be able to vote. I will look out for contacts
― Dan S, Saturday, 7 May 2022 02:15 (two years ago) link
I’m only surreptitiously a critic but I might shamelessly beg for a ballot
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 May 2022 15:36 (two years ago) link
You know who didn't submit a ballot here? mark s didn't.
― Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link
you call that a comprehensive list? what good does that do?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 14 May 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link
I watched The Night of the Hunter again, it's very creepy and quite good but I wouldn't put it in the top 10 films of all time
― Dan S, Friday, 9 September 2022 02:40 (two years ago) link
Haven't cross-referenced these lists against each other, but I'd bet that at least a third factor into both, maybe even half ...
https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/greatest-films-all-time
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 December 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link