big pharma, big tech, big oil - which has the most power?

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OptionVotes
big oil 19
big tech 9
big pharma 2


Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

I went with “big tech” but totally understand why someone would go with another option.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link

i was hoping someone less lazy than i could do like a market cap summary or something lol

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

Big oil for the planetary destruction

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

casually watching the build back better fiasco my impression is

big pharma > big oil > big tech

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link

tech blasted well past oil over the past 10-15 years

ciderpress, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link

Big oil has the entire globe by the short hairs to a degree that big tech or big pharma can only dream of.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

Big oil for the planetary destruction


This. Big tech tries hard but it’s way behind in the eschatological stakes.

suggest bainne (gyac), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

big oil >>>>>>>

flopson, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 20:32 (two years ago) link

or maybe that should be <<<<<<

big oil orders of magnitude worse than the other 2

flopson, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link

i guess this is obviously big oil.

maybe a more interesting question would have been big pharma vs. big tech? like, both are viewed as generally providing good things, but there's a lot of evidence to the contrary.

i really started this thread because i feel like pharma isn't discussed as much relative to the power it has. but maybe not. i really really started this thread because i went to dinner with a friend who works for a pharma company last night, it was very expensive and he paid for all of it on the company card.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

Even right-wingers blast "Big Pharma" and "Big Tech" these days.

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link

Oil still has the power to get governments overthrown.

Pharmaceuticals' greatest power is in the US and it's mostly limited to the rent-seeking/immiseration combo. Pfizer isn't going to talk anyone into invading over pills probably.

Tech is soft power - penetrating every layer of humanity but doing its greatest damage by its inaction. Tech has potential going forward as the replacement for the state.

I'll go with oil for now.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 21:33 (two years ago) link

big pharma's power is relatively narrow

big oil is powerful and destructive, but it can't gain much more power than it already has

I am old enough to remember life outside the digital aquarium and voted for big tech in a heartbeat

Brad C., Wednesday, 17 November 2021 22:33 (two years ago) link

If you look at the market cap of the industry, tech and oil are way way bigger than pharma. "Tech" can be defined different ways though, whereas oil is oil.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 18 November 2021 03:04 (two years ago) link

big oil is powerful and destructive, but it can't gain much more power than it already has

doesn't have to get anymore powerful than it already is; it could even decrease substantially in power and still destroy the world

flopson, Thursday, 18 November 2021 03:07 (two years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

Without oil, there is no tech and no pharma. Plastics, glass, most manufacturing processes, most organic chemical components - all dependent on hydrocarbons, if not directly as feedstocks then the heat and electricity produced by them.

Jaq, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 03:10 (two years ago) link

i think when i answered this i had misread the question as 'which is the worst'. i still think my answer is oil, but it's closer

flopson, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 06:43 (two years ago) link

i think when i answered this i had misread the question as 'which is the worst'.

feels like a lot of ppl in the thread did, or assume it's the same thing?

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 12:03 (two years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 25 November 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Biased as I worked (and hated every minute) with big pharma but I think they’re lowkey owning us all more than oil and tech ever will.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 June 2024 07:09 (four months ago) link

People talk about the Military Industrial Complex but Johnson & Johnson alone make more in profits than not only any defence contractor, but all defence contractors combined

anvil, Friday, 21 June 2024 07:33 (four months ago) link

Revenue is a bit more even but J*J, Proctor & Gamble, Pfizer at the least are all bigger than the likes of Lockheed or Boeing in overall revenue

anvil, Friday, 21 June 2024 07:35 (four months ago) link

See! My intuition wasn’t off but that is some insane data.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 June 2024 12:34 (four months ago) link

medicine is definitely worse than violence

brimstead, Friday, 21 June 2024 14:34 (four months ago) link

oh wait… power… it’s big tech

brimstead, Friday, 21 June 2024 14:35 (four months ago) link

Revenue is a bit more even but J*J, Proctor & Gamble, Pfizer at the least are all bigger than the likes of Lockheed or Boeing in overall revenue

Looked into it a bit more and these weren't the best companies to use as they're all relative minnows. United Health Group is larger than all US defense companies combined. CVS Health Group are also larger than all US defense contractors combined. As are both Berkshire Hathaway and Uniper. The same is also true of McKesson

anvil, Saturday, 22 June 2024 07:16 (four months ago) link

I’m getting a new neighbor who happens to be defending big oil in this case.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/09/16/people-of-the-state-of-california-v-big-oil/

Heez, Saturday, 22 June 2024 10:28 (four months ago) link


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