1972's Best Movies: 50 Years Later

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Rankings come from the overall list of the top 1,000 films at They Shoot Pictures, Don't They.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
AGUIRRE: THE WRATH OF GOD (Werner Herzog; West Germany) [#102] 8
THE GODFATHER (Francis Ford Coppola; USA) [#7] 6
SOLARIS (Andrei Tarkovsky; USSR) [#190] 5
THE HEARTBREAK KID (Elaine May; USA) [#1622] 3
THE BITTER TEARS OF PETRA VON KANT (Rainer Werner Fassbinder; West Germany) [#567] 3
CABARET (Bob Fosse; USA) [#342] 3
PINK FLAMINGOS (John Waters; USA) [#899] 2
OUT 1: SPECTRE (Jacques Rivette; France) [#1378] 1
THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE (Ronald Neame; USA) [#1618] 1
FIST OF FURY (Lo Wei; Hong Kong) [#1504] 1
PLAY IT AGAIN, SAM (Herbert Ross; USA) [#1751] 1
MY CHILDHOOD (Bill Douglas; UK) [#1232] 1
THE DISCREET CHARM OF THE BOURGEOISIE (Luis Buñuel; France) [#165] 1
ULZANA'S RAID (Robert Aldrich; USA) [#1545] 1
THE DEATH OF MARIA MALIBRAN (Werner Schroeter; West Germany) [#1345] 1
CRIES AND WHISPERS (Ingmar Bergman; Sweden) [#150] 1
WE WON'T GROW OLD TOGETHER (Maurice Pialat; France) [#1096] 1
PAKEEZAH (Kamal Amrohi; India) [#1142] 0
SÃO BERNARDO (Leon Hirszman; Brazil) [#1770] 0
AVANTI! (Billy Wilder; USA) [#1541] 0
TOUT VA BIEN (Jean-Luc Godard & Jean-Pierre Gorin France) [#1506] 0
CESAR AND ROSALIE (Claude Sautet; France) [#1991] 0
LAST TANGO IN PARIS (Bernardo Bertolucci; France) [#371] 0
CHLOE IN THE AFTERNOON (Eric Rohmer; France) [#1968] 0
DELIVERANCE (John Boorman; USA) [#572] 0
FAT CITY (John Huston; USA) [#629] 0
FELLINI'S ROMA (Federico Fellini; Italy) [#617] 0
FRENZY (Alfred Hitchcock; UK) [#1746] 0
THE GETAWAY (Sam Peckinpah; USA) [#1878] 0
INDIAN SUMMER (Valerio Zurlini; Italy) [#1951] 0
JEREMIAH JOHNSON (Sydney Pollack; USA) [#1698] 0
WHAT'S UP, DOC? (Peter Bogdanovich; USA) [#1985] 0


Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 11 February 2022 16:38 (three years ago)

Gonna toss Ulzana's Raid a vote.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 February 2022 16:38 (three years ago)

In keeping with previous polls, I've gone with the contenders in the top 2,000 films, but they now offer the entire starting spreadsheet. Here are the titles that carry through through the top 5,000 films ever.

2140	Rocker [TV]	Lemke, Klaus	West Germany
2239 Other, The Mulligan, Robert USA
2245 Reminiscences of a Journey to Lithuania Mekas, Jonas UK
2407 Silent Running Trumball, Douglas USA
2448 Eight Deadly Shots [TV] Niskanen, Mikko Finland
2491 Candidate, The Ritchie, Michael USA
2609 Slaughterhouse-Five Hill, George Roy USA
2622 King of Marvin Gardens, The Rafelson, Bob USA
2639 Red Psalm Jancsó, Miklós Hungary
2674 Cocksucker Blues Frank, Robert USA
2701 Behind the Green Door Mitchell, Jim & Artie Mitchell USA
2721 Dupes, The Saleh, Tewfik Syria
2785 Chung Kuo - Cina Antonioni, Michelangelo Italy
2816 History Lessons Straub, Jean-Marie & Danièle Huillet Italy
2851 Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean, The Huston, John USA
2934 Sleuth Mankiewicz, Joseph L. USA
2952 Hapax Legomena II: Poetic Justice Frampton, Hollis USA
3033 Five Fingers of Death Jeong Chang-hwa China
3054 Umbracle Portabella, Pere Spain
3059 Last House on the Left, The Craven, Wes USA
3146 Ten Days' Wonder Chabrol, Claude France
3157 Sambizanga Maldoror, Sarah Angola
3195 Superfly Parks Jr., Gordon USA
3237 Dirty Money Melville, Jean-Pierre France
3254 Ludwig - Requiem for a Virgin King Syberberg, Hans-Jürgen West Germany
3262 Deep Throat Damiano, Gerard ---
3300 Way of the Dragon, The Lee, Bruce Hong Kong
3303 Far from the Trees Esteva, Jacinto Spain
3310 Scopone scientifico, Lo Comencini, Luigi Italy
3418 Harder They Come, The Henzell, Perry Jamaica
3478 Pictures of the Old World Hanák, Dusan Czechoslovakia
3530 Cicatrice intérieure, La Garrel, Philippe France
3598 Daughter-in-Law, The Narliyev, Khodzha Kuli USSR
3662 Lisa and the Devil Bava, Mario Italy
3686 Fritz the Cat Bakshi, Ralph USA
3732 Traidores, Los Gleyzer, Raymundo Argentina
3948 Devil in Miss Jones, The Damiano, Gerard USA
3996 2'45" Raban, William ---
4354 Diabel Zulawski, Andrzej Poland
4379 Dracula A.D. 1972 Gibson, Alan UK
4381 Lucifer Rising Anger, Kenneth USA
4503 Blaise Pascal [TV] Rossellini, Roberto Italy
4650 Intimate Confessions of a Chinese Courtesan/Ai nu Chor Yuen Hong Kong
4679 San Michele aveva un gallo Taviani, Paolo & Vittorio Taviani Italy
4683 Cruel Sea Al Siddiq, Khalid Kuwait
4714 Nathalie Granger Duras, Marguerite France
4736 Lady Sings the Blues Furie, Sidney J. USA
4795 Easy Out O'Neill, Pat USA
4826 Past and Present Oliveira, Manoel de Portugal
4881 Travels with My Aunt Cukor, George USA
4909 Marjoe Smith, Howard & Sarah Kernochan USA

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 11 February 2022 16:39 (three years ago)

Love that The Poseidon Adventure ranks higher than Red Psalm.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 11 February 2022 16:42 (three years ago)

I've seen 14 of these; I'll vote for Out One: Spectre, although the pedant in me thinks that the "Spectre" cut of the film didn't come out until 1974. Worst is Roma, Fellini had really gotten stale by this point

I've also seen 7 from the lower list, and would vote for Red Psalm from there. Blaise Pascal is a fascinating oddity. I've always been curious about The Other since I read a review of it in Movies on TV.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 11 February 2022 16:51 (three years ago)

Cries and Whispers is actually my least favourite Bergman, it might be more of a disappointment than Roma, now that I think of it.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 11 February 2022 16:52 (three years ago)

From one of my lists a few years ago in descending order:

The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (Luis Bunuel)
The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
The Merchant of Four Seasons (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola)
Cabaret (Bob Fosse)
Ulzana’s Raid (Robert Aldrich)
Sounder (Martin Ritt)
Aguirre, the Wrath of God (Werner Herzog)
Deliverance (John Boorman)
Cries and Whispers (Ingmar Bergman)
Pink Flamingos (John Waters)

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 February 2022 16:53 (three years ago)

Bergman has a lot of competition after even his second-tier, though.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 February 2022 16:53 (three years ago)

You mean... a badness competition with himself?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 11 February 2022 16:58 (three years ago)

The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, West Germany)
Cries and Whispers (Ingmar Bergman, Sweden)
Cabaret (Bob Fosse, USA)
OffOn (Scott Bartlett, USA)
Pink Flamingos (John Waters, USA)
Winter Soldier (Winterbank collective, USA)
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgoisie (Luis Buñuel, France)
The Merchant of Four Seasons (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, West Germany)
The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, USA)
Heat (Paul Morrissey, USA)

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 11 February 2022 17:00 (three years ago)

Ulzana's Raid is so good. Scanning the longlist, Five Fingers of Death would definitely make my top ten for this year as well.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 11 February 2022 17:36 (three years ago)

I realize I also saw the Zurlini on this list, under the title The Professor, where Alain Delon as the titular teacher assigns an in-class essay, lights up and reads the paper during classtime.

Here's a top ten:

Out 1: Spectre
Aguirre the Wrath of God
Red Psalm
La vie rêvée (Mireille Dansereau, Canada)
Solaris
Nathalie Granger
The Goat Horn (Metodi Andonov, Bulgaria)
Blaise Pascal
Hôtel Monterey (Chantal Akerman, Belgium)
Journey (Paul Almond, Canada)

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 11 February 2022 17:45 (three years ago)

1. Aguirre, the Wrath of God
2. The Heartbreak Kid
3. The Godfather
4. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
5. Cabaret
6. Pink Flamingos
7. Frenzy

C&W might sneak in there if I ever give it another viewing; at present, its not even Top 10 Bergman for me.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Friday, 11 February 2022 17:55 (three years ago)

1. The Godfather
2. The Heartbreak Kid
3. Chloe in the Afternoon
4. Whispers of the Wolf
5. Out 1
6. Last Tango in Paris

Out 1 has stayed on my mind for a decade. If I were to see it again it might be higher, or I might sleep through 70% of it. I've still never seen Aguirre.

clemenza, Friday, 11 February 2022 18:01 (three years ago)

That list has the 13 hour Out 1 as a 1971 release, this is the four hour "short" version, which I think is much superior.

4. Whispers of the Wolf

1313!

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 11 February 2022 18:06 (three years ago)

Oops--was listing the 11-hour version.

clemenza, Friday, 11 February 2022 18:07 (three years ago)

Jesus fucking Christ what a year.

All of these could win my vote:

AGUIRRE: THE WRATH OF GOD (Werner Herzog; West Germany)
THE BITTER TEARS OF PETRA VON KANT (Rainer Werner Fassbinder; West Germany)
THE DISCREET CHARM OF THE BOURGEOISIE (Luis Buñuel; France)
PINK FLAMINGOS (John Waters; USA)
SOLARIS (Andrei Tarkovsky; USSR)

At the moment I'm in a Bitter Tears mood, but I'm probably most often in a Discreet Charm mood.

emil.y, Friday, 11 February 2022 18:08 (three years ago)

I’m always a little surprised that people don’t like Cries and Whispers, and I know a lot of people don’t (critic John Simon, a Bergman fan, thought it a rare dud in the filmography). I generally think of it as top 5 Bergman, one of his near perfect films.

So many undeniable arty classics in this list, but I’m tempted to snub them all and vote for The Heartbreak Kid.

Josefa, Friday, 11 February 2022 18:31 (three years ago)

I always sort of assumed there was a healthy bit of "enough already" sentiment around Bergman in the early '70s.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 11 February 2022 18:33 (three years ago)

Just realized The Candidate's not there. Also good: Cisco Pike, Winter Soldier.

clemenza, Friday, 11 February 2022 20:38 (three years ago)

Ah, missed the supplementary list.

clemenza, Friday, 11 February 2022 20:39 (three years ago)

from the extended list, I want to track this down

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjoe

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 11 February 2022 20:41 (three years ago)

I first heard of Marjoe Gortner last week, due to a blog post about his appearance in the 1978 sci-fi film Starcrash.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 11 February 2022 20:51 (three years ago)

It's fantastic, one of my fav docs of the 70s. The 'behind-the-scenes' parts about him & his grift are good, but tbh the tent revival preaching scenes on their own merits are up there with any of the concert docs of the era imho.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 11 February 2022 20:59 (three years ago)

I've been waiting to see the Marjoe documentary forever. (Should check current availability.) He was in the great Kojack pilot, The Marcus-Nelson Murders, the following year (Joseph Sargent of Pelham fame).

clemenza, Friday, 11 February 2022 21:02 (three years ago)

Typically, on Prime but not in Canada.

clemenza, Friday, 11 February 2022 21:03 (three years ago)

If you still mess with physical media the DVD is easy to find, packaged as a double-feature with that directors other oscar-winning doc Thoth

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 11 February 2022 21:09 (three years ago)

Marjoe is pretty great. Remarkable document of its time (ie you don’t catch grifters admitting the grift on camera much these days)

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 11 February 2022 21:14 (three years ago)

(xpost) So it is, thanks. A bit pricey, but I'll keep an eye on that.

clemenza, Friday, 11 February 2022 21:17 (three years ago)

Have only seen Aguirre, Frenzy, The Getaway, Pink Flamingos, The Poseidon Adventure and What's Up, Doc?. Out of those, it's Herzog versus Bogdanovich, but I feel like I shouldn't vote until I at least see Solaris, which is playing at the IFC Center. And maybe, uh, this godfather movie I keep hearing about.

The creator of Ultra Games, for Nintendo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 11 February 2022 21:21 (three years ago)

No judgement implied, just (extreme) surprise: You haven't seen The Godfather?

clemenza, Friday, 11 February 2022 21:26 (three years ago)

I know--read the whole post!

clemenza, Friday, 11 February 2022 21:27 (three years ago)

The Heartbreak Kid deserved a vote, so I gave it one.

Chris L, Friday, 11 February 2022 22:25 (three years ago)

might just as well vote for which one I've seen the most times which would be 'fist of fury' gotta love that knife deflection.

oscar bravo, Friday, 11 February 2022 22:30 (three years ago)

although I do love ' frenzy' a lot, esp. Barry Do. Mr Rusk you don't appear to be wearing your tie.

oscar bravo, Friday, 11 February 2022 22:32 (three years ago)

At this point, living in NYC, The Godfather is one of those I'm just kinda waiting until it hits one of the repertory screens at the right time. It's panned out great with a lot of other classics - just saw The Conversation for the first time at Film Forum (speaking of Coppola) and it blew me away.

The creator of Ultra Games, for Nintendo (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:04 (three years ago)

Although I’ve lived in NYC for 25 years I no longer take anything for granted and now make a point to see any film I admire on the big screen whenever and wherever it may pop up. (I also saw The Conversation at the Film Forum… always felt that needed to be seen cinematically). I have the sinking feeling that movie theaters won’t be around for much longer, and certainly not repertory ones.

Josefa, Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:15 (three years ago)

Which is why I haven't Aguirre (I have a DVD downstairs): been waiting for a theatrical showing. I had to skip one once, presumably for something important I've forgotten.

clemenza, Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:17 (three years ago)

It feels cliché, but The Godfather is the one I keep coming back to. After that it would probably be Discreet Charm and Pink Flamingos. I love Bergman, but Cries and Whispers is a tough watch.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 12 February 2022 01:39 (three years ago)

Aquirre: The Wrath of God, Cabaret and The Godfather are my three

Dan S, Saturday, 12 February 2022 02:04 (three years ago)

also really liked like The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant

Dan S, Saturday, 12 February 2022 02:12 (three years ago)

three weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 00:01 (three years ago)

Cries and Whispers was actually the first Bergman I ever saw. It made a powerful impression. I still think it's one of his best.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 00:05 (three years ago)

Mine too, but it's not my favorite.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 00:09 (three years ago)

I think it was my first one too, watched it with other students during college, and after that Scenes From a Marriage

Dan S, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 00:58 (three years ago)

Considered Deliverance and Fat City but voted Aguirre.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 01:03 (three years ago)

I had to vote for the Godfather.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 01:08 (three years ago)

Solaris was one of my two least favorite Tarkovsky films

Dan S, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 01:17 (three years ago)

Just saw Cabaret for the first time a year or so ago. I expected it to be decent 'obligatorily Oscar-nominated semi-serious musical' fodder but not much more than that. Totally floored, and I totally understand why it was a serious BP contender even in the year of The Godfather.

When the Pain That You Feel is the Bite of an Eel, That's a Moray (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 01:20 (three years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 10 March 2022 00:01 (three years ago)

three weeks pass...

I look at the remnants of the Voice site once every few months...This seems to be a new Michael Atkinson piece on the movies in '72:

https://www.villagevoice.com/2022/03/31/cinemas-crest-1972-was-a-very-good-year-for-the-movies/

Indeed, 1972 makes a rousing bid for being the greatest single movie year there ever was, just beginning with The Godfather, Deliverance, Cabaret, Last Tango in Paris, The King of Marvin Gardens, and Fat City, but particularly when you look globally, at Herzog’s Aguirre, the Wrath of God, Buñuel’s The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, Tarkovsky’s Solaris, Bergman’s Cries and Whispers, Costa-Gavras’s State of Siege, Jancso’s Red Psalm, Fassbinder’s The Merchant of Four Seasons and The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant, Rohmer’s Chloe in the Afternoon, Loach’s Family Life, Wenders’s The Goalie’s Anxiety at the Penalty Kick, Pialat’s We Won’t Grow Old Together, and so on. Not to mention Godard and Gorin’s double-bladed show of Tout va Bien and Letter to Jane. Not to mention Hitchcock’s penultimate film, and best in almost a decade, Frenzy.

clemenza, Monday, 4 April 2022 03:15 (three years ago)

I'd at least hear an argument for any film year from 1971 through 1976 being called the greatest movie year ever. But then I'd probably counter that 2000 had Yi Yi, Eureka, In the Mood for Love, Code Unknown, Esther Kahn, Werckmeister Harmonies, The Heart of the World, Mission to Mars, Scary Movie, La Commune (Paris, 1871), The House of Mirth, One Day in the Life of Andrei Arsenevich, Bamboozled and As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Monday, 4 April 2022 13:45 (three years ago)

Not to mention Godard and Gorin’s double-bladed show of Tout va Bien and Letter to Jane.

Letter to Jane is both the most radical, intriguing thing Godard/Gorin ever did ... and also ideologically the most putrid.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Monday, 4 April 2022 13:47 (three years ago)


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