We got a Kirk sighting
‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Finds Its James T. Kirk With Paul Wesley https://t.co/5TYFp8XYMe— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) March 15, 2022
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 17 March 2022 22:19 (three years ago)
Okay, premiere episode today! Which I haven't seen yet but soon enough.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 May 2022 21:02 (three years ago)
My natural scepticism kept me from fully enjoying the fan service bits. It was fine, I guess. Better a low-key opener that turns into something solid than an amazingly flashy and promising first episode that turns into me giving up on the show after a season and a half.
― trishyb, Thursday, 5 May 2022 22:58 (three years ago)
need a history of star trek sideburns
― mookieproof, Friday, 6 May 2022 00:10 (three years ago)
Yeah "low key opener" is a good way to describe it, it was fun and straightforward enough and got a reasonable amount of info dumping done. More than anything I absolutely think this nails the 'what if 1960s Big Ideas Optimistic Trek with 2020s production values' mode, so I'm already in for the rest of the season.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 May 2022 03:12 (three years ago)
A little heavy handed toward the end but a solid B+, just happy to have a Trek episode where the survival of all existence doesn’t hinge on that 45 minutes.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 May 2022 03:56 (three years ago)
ned otmit succeeded in trying to do what TOS sometimes did, referring to current events but in a way that ~comforts~ the viewer, like trying to provide a modicum of hope as a mixer with the escapism & i appreciated the attempt because idk i kind of needed it right now? i finished the ep feeling like yes, this is how it should feel. i am a cornball though too so ymmv it feels rooted in the past in ways that arent just fanservice so i hope that continues to pay off bc man i really love this cast
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 May 2022 06:05 (three years ago)
Feels good to be hyped for next week's ST episode instead of wondering which kind of terrible it will be this time.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 May 2022 06:09 (three years ago)
also La’an Noonien Singh/Christina Chong is A+total Camina Drummer from Expanse vibes, freaked out for a minute bc i thought it was the same actor lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 May 2022 06:10 (three years ago)
xpost otm
My mom texted me to ask if that was Drummer and if their alien modifications were supposed to make them look like Buffy vampires.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 May 2022 06:16 (three years ago)
lol <3 there’s something about forehead appliances in effects makeup, maybe bc they often widen the space between the eyes, it is SO easy to veer into that Buffy look, it’s weirdly common like i think ppl just accept that its an ok look. i kinda wish we could get away from it myself. it even happens in cgi.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 May 2022 06:27 (three years ago)
the spock/t’pring scenes were great
worried about la’an’s surname(s), because enough already
anson mount’s hair is v. tall
― mookieproof, Friday, 6 May 2022 12:40 (three years ago)
Hmm, could have handled this differently.
https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-ukraine-protest-footage-1848888151
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 May 2022 23:31 (three years ago)
I get Noonien-Singh and Noonien-Soongh mixed up sometimes. I had to check which one this was. I do hope it's just a nod to tradition and it's not going to be A Thing.
― trishyb, Saturday, 7 May 2022 12:49 (three years ago)
Roffle
pic.twitter.com/0mgRGzBRSU— joegross (@joegross) May 7, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 May 2022 17:16 (three years ago)
omg totally! same energy as the kids would say
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 May 2022 18:58 (three years ago)
Glad I'm not the only one thinking that was the Drummer actress. Was a bit surprised it wasn't when I looked at Imdb.
Quite fun 1st episode I guess.Didn't quite get how much earlier it is.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:58 (three years ago)
i thought this was good and so regretfully suppose i will continue paying paramount plus their trek tax for the next couple of months
spent probably a little too much time yesterday mentally workshopping convoluted scenarios whereby chris pike might avoid his melty fate, which probably means that i like the character
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Monday, 9 May 2022 01:34 (three years ago)
omg that's my friend dan!!
― sean gramophone, Monday, 9 May 2022 01:59 (three years ago)
i really like that they introduced it so early on in Discovery, because it allows Mount to do more acting-wise with the character imo
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 May 2022 02:08 (three years ago)
Yeah it has to be a given we know his fate, right? They cant fuck with that fact at least. Surely.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 9 May 2022 03:43 (three years ago)
It’s canon a couple times over, and if they try to timey wimey it people will be pissed.
I thought this was fine and is a welcome change from Disco and Picard nonsense, but the limits of Trekian optimism butting heads with trying to comment on contemporary ills really showed some strain and the resolution felt way too easily gotten.
― Star Trek: Strange New Wordles (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2022 04:14 (three years ago)
anson's gonna melt, but it's like a decade away
somewhat awkward in that, while he talks about foreseeing his death, the melting won't actually kill him
this has not gone over well with disabled trek fans
just hope these characters can do something/anything better than being diverse and talking a lot. already like that one officer complaining about shit happening on her watch
― mookieproof, Monday, 9 May 2022 04:24 (three years ago)
yeah we can only hope
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 May 2022 04:52 (three years ago)
i think that aspect adds dimension ie pike seeing the future & ~interpreting~ it as his deathyet we know that isnt the case
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 May 2022 04:58 (three years ago)
No I think he knows its not his death! He said something like "I saw my death... well, the death of me as I know me" or similar, suggesting what was left might as well have been dead? Which I can see disabled people having an issue with tbrh
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 9 May 2022 07:19 (three years ago)
As for me, I cant get past thinking of it like this.
https://morbotron.com/meme/S04E12/541823.jpg?b64lines=IEdvIFsgQmVlcCBdIHlvdXJzZWxmLg==
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 9 May 2022 07:21 (three years ago)
This was good: https://thatshelf.com/star-trek-discoverys-depiction-of-captain-pikes-disability-is-a-betrayal-of-roddenberrys-utopian-vision
"Betrayal" is a bit strong (I'm not sure Roddenberry had significant enough morals to betray) but the piece makes some good points without falling into fannish entitlement
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 May 2022 09:26 (three years ago)
Oh and nu-Chapel seems great and I loved T'pring's retro-futurist makeup.
― Star Trek: Strange New Wordles (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:13 (three years ago)
Nu-Chapel seemed very familiar but then I realized it was just the Phoebe Bridgers hair, pretty sure I've never seen her in anything else.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 9 May 2022 22:13 (three years ago)
I mean really, someone who is so disabled they cant move or speak and have to control a wheelchair with their mind and are just basically a floating head, doesnt sound like a life, disability advocacy is one thing but cmon. This isnt "the mere act of sitting in a wheelchair".
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 9 May 2022 22:21 (three years ago)
I rather liked this new episode, had the exact setup of a classic one-off but with plenty of its own distinct touches and interactions between characters.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 May 2022 00:43 (three years ago)
only 5 minutes into this new ep but just dropping in to say that Christopher Pike's high hair is doing a LOT of important work on this show
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 13 May 2022 01:22 (three years ago)
already know more about pike's bridge crew than i've learned in four seasons about discovery's
take sides: pike's hair vs. spock's sideburns
i do think it's been well done so far, but i hope the entire season/series isn't haunted by pike's ~fate~. after all, he does love this job
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 May 2022 02:06 (three years ago)
this show is a real pleasure so far - absolutely nailing it but in an almost understated way
yep I reckon the character work is great (especially vs Disco) - that early scene in Pike's quarters had me grinning - feels like they have uncovered some ancient wisdom from a lost civilisation that "likeable characters that you wanna spend 1hr/week with" is a good TV formula
I've found the 'haunted by future' aspect quite interesting so far - feels like they might be building it into a slow burn plot development rather than just brooding about it? as you say mookieproof, it has been done with a fairly light touch thus far - I'm sure the device must have been used before? but it definitely adds something here, and I think stops Pike from being a bit one dimensional... and dare I say even adds a touch of profundity to the whole thing?
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 13 May 2022 02:36 (three years ago)
Some very bad CGI this week, not a big deal but the Shepherd captain on the view screen looked baaaaaad.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:17 (three years ago)
kept getting an error in Safari, oops.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:18 (three years ago)
tbf he was probably actually clint howard in prosthetics
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 May 2022 04:20 (three years ago)
no need to bang on about it milo jeez <3
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 May 2022 22:01 (three years ago)
Rob Bricken with a solid rave for the show that hits a lot of good points we've mentioned in the thread and elsewhere:
https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-tv-paramount-plus-pike-spo-1848923327
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 May 2022 23:53 (three years ago)
i just noticed spock’s sideburns have a slightly arty curve to them & i hate itpike’s hair however is majestic & i am here for it really enjoyed this ep,
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2022 05:38 (three years ago)
I am hoping his hair gets higher every episode.
― trishyb, Saturday, 14 May 2022 11:25 (three years ago)
I kept thinking of thishttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/84/67/418467cb44c622620a11d8186fa94fdb.jpgexcept I was remembering it as going up wards as well as forward.
Maybe memory incorporating bits of one or both of these which are of a similar vintage I think. Certainly saw them a couple of decades backhttps://cdn.onebauer.media/one/empire-tmdb/films/45145/images/tTagCxKrhFlM5N0TEHQLqrnnf7V.jpg?format=jpg&quality=80&width=960&height=540&ratio=16-9&resize=aspectfill
― Stevolende, Saturday, 14 May 2022 11:56 (three years ago)
i just noticed spock’s sideburns have a slightly arty curve to them & i hate it
That's how he shows emotion. When pon farr hits they turn into majestic whorls.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 May 2022 14:23 (three years ago)
lmao
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2022 17:47 (three years ago)
I thought the editing was a little slack, but as stated making these characters believable people with real personalities is a welcome change of pace from Disco.
I'm warming up to Peck, I'm pretty sure that his "I apply rigorous logic to defuse tension" was meant as a joke and his little look of disappointment at Uhura not acknowledging it was a small treasure.
― Santa Barbarous (Leee), Saturday, 14 May 2022 20:09 (three years ago)
yeah i loved thati think peck is great, but i was a fan from the off when he first showed up in Disco
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2022 20:50 (three years ago)
He's great in the role! Leonard will always have it for me on the nostalgia level and more, but Peck's sharp in his own way.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 August 2023 04:34 (one year ago)
exciting episode but maaaaan fuck to be continued finales I HATE WAITING
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 August 2023 04:44 (one year ago)
love leonard (although tbf he was no rollin hand) but like, often enough he just had to wear purple eye-shadow and lift an eyebrow while shitting on mccoy
there's half a century of lore now and peck absolutely does it justice while also expressing a much wider spectrum of emotions than leonard was ever called upon to do
feel like chapel/jess bush was the breakout star of the season, and, well, roger kirby will have to be extremely impressive. you know, before that other stuff
― mookieproof, Friday, 11 August 2023 04:52 (one year ago)
Still deeply impressed with her accent work. I don’t think I’ve heard it slip once.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 August 2023 05:25 (one year ago)
Mm idk, I love Ethan Peck's Spock but this series is heavily leaning into his "human side" in the writing, and thus Peck's performance. Most of these two seasons so far, Peck seems to be a hormonal teenager barely keeping a lid on his explosive emotions, rather than Nimoy's extreme-blasé approach. Nimoy's Spock has a vibe that reminds me of a cork bulletin board on the wall of a corridor at a university. Peck feels more like a nerd having a late-onset puberty
― If you hate movies, this Barbie is for you (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:21 (one year ago)
And one interpretation of the character being older/more experienced than the other...I mean, works for me.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 August 2023 16:31 (one year ago)
loved it when Spock shows that adult Gorn who is the boss in what was a cracking cliffhanger finale. I think I can vaguely remember seeing the og Gorn episode when I was a kid. I like the way these brutal egg laying nazi lizards communicate their terms with simple diagrams. I was looking up their st history and saw something about an unused scene from one of the movies shot for Riker's bachelor party which featured a Gorn who was a guest there as one of Worf's friends. Obv they used to be a bit more verbal and were socially polite enough not to lay eggs in fellow guests.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 11 August 2023 21:50 (one year ago)
Making the Gorn a proto-Borg is kind of trite (and I guess the writers really want a race where Starfleet can kill without moral compunction, maybe they'll serve in part 2 but I have my doubts, since I didn't think the Klingon episode had much depth to it either), and the BOBW hook was frustrating more than anything for me.
― Albert Canoe (Leee), Saturday, 12 August 2023 04:24 (one year ago)
I was thrilled (on this episode as with others) to see the crew on the bridge functioning as a unit, contributing to tactics and functionality, instead of the typical ways that problems have been historically resolved:
1. Captain orders x to press a button2. Captain orders y to press a button3. Captain orders z to press a button4. Captain gets frustrated, doesn’t ask for help5. Spock/Data/Wesley offers a solution
― Snoopy is a cat, who lives in a cage (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 August 2023 23:55 (one year ago)
1.1 (visual representation of astronomical phenomenon roughly the size of a golf ball at a 20-meter distance)1.2 enhance!
― mookieproof, Sunday, 13 August 2023 03:09 (one year ago)
xpost Yeah that absolutely struck me as well, this last episode showcased the idea of a team functioning and everyone doing their roles to the best they could depending on where they found themselves. Smart!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 August 2023 03:14 (one year ago)
Catching up and the episode with the Klingon general was totally a M.A.S.H ep
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 13 August 2023 05:06 (one year ago)
pretty sure that hawkeye never butchered his (enemies)? can't quite speak to him dealing with a half-assed yet righteous defector, although TNG did
― mookieproof, Sunday, 13 August 2023 05:15 (one year ago)
Detailed interview with SNW cinematographer Benji Bakshi.https://filmmakermagazine.com/122716-interview-cinematographer-benji-bakshi-star-trek-strange-new-worlds/
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 1 September 2023 05:56 (one year ago)
this is cool but also i don't think 'Each Episode is Like Its Own Movie' is really what people want?
i mean i would happily take shittier graphics or whatever for 15-20 episodes rather than ten
― mookieproof, Friday, 1 September 2023 06:16 (one year ago)
same with 'foundation' et al
bottle shows can be good
― mookieproof, Friday, 1 September 2023 06:41 (one year ago)
I agree, but also one of the things I love about this show is how lush it looks. I am tired of all my shows (Warrior, Perry Mason, even the SATC reboot) deteriorating to the point where they don't even have full-room sets, and everything is just people standing on a tiny set in front of a shitty green screen. Strange New Worlds has somehow always managed to look expensive, and I do want an element of that. Some sort of happy medium.
― trishyb, Friday, 1 September 2023 08:57 (one year ago)
Trying to imagine this show with TNG/Voyager's "fluorescent office lighting" cinematography.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 1 September 2023 09:02 (one year ago)
Yeah it looks gorge and that’s part of the appeal for me.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 1 September 2023 09:03 (one year ago)
Absolutely agreed on this. It’s remarkable and great.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2023 12:34 (one year ago)
pike's hair is of course the most impressive special effect but the rest of it isn't far off, the quality of the cg often surpasses movie-quality - it's a remarkable achievement on a tv budget
still not entirely sold on the shiny black bridge tho tbh, doesn't feel properly trek in a way that the rest of the show absolutely does
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 September 2023 12:45 (one year ago)
maybe they’ll have an episode where they install carpet on the bridge
― mh, Friday, 1 September 2023 13:14 (one year ago)
it's the one move the gorn couldn't possibility anticipate
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 September 2023 13:40 (one year ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5yysJ6XkAABk73.jpg:small
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 05:40 (one year ago)
I...didn't expect this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txQqpGr1qQw
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 21:03 (one year ago)
The other one before it ("Skin a Cat") is also hilariously stupid.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 23:39 (one year ago)
skin a cat was v silly but it made me lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 September 2023 00:19 (one year ago)
Same!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 September 2023 02:08 (one year ago)
Only recently finished this season and Leee OTM - though I thought less of the borg than of Alien and the millions of video game monster races inspired by same, also designed to be killed without moral compunction.
SNW is without a doubt the best of the current Trek series but there's a certain militaristic streak that wasn't there as much in older Trek, despite the navvy structures and etc. Just a general development in American genre stories maybe.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 14 September 2023 10:02 (one year ago)
The tape warble on the opening animated theme is a great touch, tho I think the frame-dropping is the only retro element they didn’t quite land.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:48 (one year ago)
True, the direct antecedent of SNW-Gorn are the xenomorphs. What really struck me is that killed a juvenile and I expected some kind of on-screen hand-wringing -- but no, I don't think that ever happened.
On the militaristic thing, it's always been there, albeit sporadically -- and I hate to say it but DS9 probably established SF-as-a-military in wider Trek.
― The Banshees of Ed Sheeran (Leee), Thursday, 14 September 2023 17:36 (one year ago)
Yeah it's always been in the mix but I feel like it's encroached more and more. One difference is I think the almost total focus on the trauma of war as experienced by "our guys", with the other side usually reduced to an anonymous threat. Ds9 still cared far more for its Cardassian characters, and even for the Jem Hadar.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 14 September 2023 17:41 (one year ago)
Yeah, DS9 was really good at the whole horrors of battle thing, with what happened to Nog and Kira's war trauma and Garak's dark past as a possible torturer/assasin (??). I feel like in DISCO and SNW the baddies are often pretty one-dimensional and "bad". Like OK there was mirror Lorca and Georgiou, but they're neither of them a Dukat.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 September 2023 23:18 (one year ago)
And its prob been said here many times but that is the problem with modern TV! Shows don't get a chance to fucking flesh out characters. We barely had time to grow fond of Hemmer and then he was gone. I can't even REMEMBER that character in Disco that appeared and disappeared within like 2 episodes.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 September 2023 23:20 (one year ago)
pic.twitter.com/rR60zfkZ78— Star Trek Minus Context (@NoContextTrek) October 3, 2023
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 07:11 (one year ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzR5KOilk8c
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:34 (one year ago)
Rofflehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyNjbjyD6U
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:14 (ten months ago)
And while we continue to wait, essential reading:
https://www.emmys.com/news/features/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-musical-episode-subspace-rhapsody
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2024 19:07 (nine months ago)
couldn't sleep last night and rewatched the majority of s02
it's so good
― mookieproof, Saturday, 28 September 2024 00:26 (eight months ago)
It is!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 September 2024 01:24 (eight months ago)
Got a new tease for us… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llvMv5-ydyQ
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 October 2024 01:04 (seven months ago)
stoked!
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 20 October 2024 02:38 (seven months ago)
that's right
― mookieproof, Sunday, 20 October 2024 02:58 (seven months ago)
Look killer.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 21 October 2024 13:13 (seven months ago)
Nice sign for the future -- while we still haven't even gotten season three, they're already filming season four!
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/481669897_1197657211720041_4663992142651605733_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=ZWqbEUBpz2oQ7kNvgHW_rk8&_nc_oc=AdiwcMK6aS4drJNr2QWVHnT5kKPA-tVCVJxSTMXT62rhys4eUAZhOhmwuQeLAbSAkHaL-dnbKGfVPqKY5UE2dtKy&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&_nc_gid=AMNsKeF_8cewcSbhM-H4G09&oh=00_AYB0o5IcDyWl3QyqalW7IHPpJUpNrAHOfe8wsnvxb2muvg&oe=67CC2D8C
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 01:20 (two months ago)
ALRIGHT. I am still so depressed about Lower Decks and we don't talk about S31 so this is great news.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 03:25 (two months ago)
Let's gooooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjAWSIJCcmY
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 18:01 (one month ago)
was that patton oswalt as imperious looking romulan/vulcan?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 20:14 (one month ago)
Yes, and Rhys Darby was there too!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 21:11 (one month ago)
July 17th is when we're back!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 May 2025 18:29 (one week ago)