when if ever has political satire been any good on uk TV?

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even TW3 looks way lame in hindsight, even if bernard levin did get thumped haha

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:58 (twenty-three years ago)

'Not the Nine O'Clock News'? Yeah, right.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 22:07 (twenty-three years ago)

"The Saturday/Friday Night Armistice"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 22:38 (twenty-three years ago)

i liked the Bird/Fortune sketches in the Rory Bremner show (rest of the show pretty crap though)

― michael (michael), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 22:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I liked the BrassEye specialson paedophiles granted they were about the political/social side of things... well more social really, I just wanted to say they were great

― paulj (paulj), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 22:51 (twenty-three years ago)

i found it really hard to appreciate the satire in that Brass Eye as opposed to just puerile but often funny jokes about paedophilia - i know there was a vague element of satire in there though

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:12 (twenty-three years ago)

morris is all abt satire of cliches of media, it's not really political satire: ditto thr armistice, surely?

i like the bird/fortune sketches also, but i bet the ppl being satirised chuckle amusedly along with them: they're sort of flattering, in a weird way

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know about TV, but Peter Cook taking the piss out of Macmillian in Beyond The Fringe when the old git was sitting in the audience takes the biscuit w/regards live satire.

― chris sallis, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Does The Young Ones count as political satire?

― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:37 (twenty-three years ago)

"and we're getting reports that HENRY BROOKE has lost his seat" - that was the 1966 Labour landslide's equivalent of Portillo 1997; Brooke had been the subject of the "if you're Home Secretary you can get away with murder" sequence in TW3.

so, yes, it had an influence. but, yeah, much of it dates badly. Bremner is an utter embarrassment.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Was Spitting Image any good or am I looking through rose-tinted specs while realising I was too young to actually understand most of it and just laughed at the amusing puppets?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd say that Brass Eye's pedophelia episode was pretty good as satire, actually

― J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

See Dead Ringers - surprise or what? for more on this area. Since I've sort of answered this there I won't repeat it here.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:55 (twenty-three years ago)

''I'd say that Brass Eye's pedophelia episode was pretty good as satire, actually''

the first part was good. but i think they couldn't keep it up in the second half.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 22:39 (twenty-three years ago)

The ratio of good stuff to crap on Spitting Image was piss poor but when it did hit the mark (probably 5-10% of the time) it could be devastatingly good.

― ArfArf, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 23:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Brass Eye is post-satire. Less about what's in the news but rather satire about the news itself and how shows like Newsnight dramaticise their reporting of events. And I've got it on video. And you haven't. So nernerner!

― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2002 01:26 (twenty-three years ago)

But hasn't satire always been about sending up the way the news is reported as well as the news itself?

― MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 21 November 2002 10:51 (twenty-three years ago)

sort of, but never previously to the extent that Chris Morris takes it

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Thursday, 21 November 2002 19:18 (twenty-three years ago)

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