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but don't, as its surface temperature is zero kelvin and yr fingers wd shatter into an icy dust

*cough*

"What would you ask us?"

Miss Lavis laid her hand pleasantly on Lucy's arm, as if to suggest that she, at all events, would get full marks."

OK, then, something I DO believe; Derek Bailey will have a number one single before this decade's out.

*does this controversial opinion necessarily have to be mine?

that's something I WANT to believe.

AND WHAT ANDREW SAID!!

The people who sometimes annoy me on ILE are on the whole the ones whose talents I most envy.

AND WHAT ANDREW SAID!!

I believe the Harry Potter industry is even more guilty of this.

But he DID!

I don't have a firm opinion on whether abortion should be legal. I've yet to see a totally convincing pro-choice argument (not that I've been reading in depth). My main reason for being sort of pro-choice is that it's a controversial topic and since I don't have a firm decided opinion I want to leave it up to personal choice.

They seem to have mostly gone away since covid. My local taco place Cilantro (where I get the best al pastor tacos) keeps the salsas in containers behind the counter

My neighborhood Safeway on Bay Street closed and Grocery Outlet promised to move in, but the way things are moving here I could be long gone before that happens

a lot of taco trucks now use small, prepackaged sealed bags of salsa, red or green (almost like ketchup packets)... I get the convenience for them but it's still kind of a bummer

A bunch of neighborhood Mexican places around here have salsa bars. I am a sucker for a salsa bar.

Xp table - the taqueria vallarta salsa bar is better than pancho villa … open later too iirc … La Cumbre fandom is a sign of being 50+ years old (I remember my coworker getting La Cumbre for our department back in the 90s … high point of that job)

What is a burrito / enchilada discourse veers dangerously toward what is a taco discourse

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a hot dog is

Yes! SF Mission-style burritos always have rice, whereas the San Diego burritos never have rice - just meat and beans and cheese/guac/sour cream/condiments - and with the addition of fries it's called a 'California burrito'.

Lack of a mention of the glorious and not overrated (imhop) La Taqueria itt is low key heartbreak

hot Cheetos on burrito or gtfo

https://www.manvsfries.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/man-vs-fries-img-2-1.jpg

There’s a cheap taco thing at Taco Bell that has corn chips mixed in with the beef. Less expensive and half as satisfying

Idk don’t actually know if this is controversial, but it seems like it probably is?:

Turkey bacon is better than real bacon. The smell doesn’t go stale and linger for days; I like that it’s lean (American bacon is almost all fat and I’m not a fan of it); it tastes like bacon to me.

(I only tried it for the first time very recently because I always assumed I wouldn’t like it - I don’t like turkey much, especially deli slices)

no massive argument, but isn't pork bacon an actual cut of belly meat, whereas turkey 'bacon' is some kind of pressed & processed meat 'product'?

Rice in a burrito is filler. No thanks.

salsa burrito

I'm listening

Rice in a burrito is filler. No thanks

I don't mind it, but I've heard recent grumblings about any rice in mexican food as being inauthentic

where I've landed with authenticity as I've neared my mid-40s is that if it tasted good going into my mouth and helps me shit regularly, fuck do I care

I think it depends on which regional Mexican foods you're considering. Rice is grown and eaten in Mexico. This site ("Chef's Resource") seemed to be accurate:

Mexico is one of the top rice-producing countries in Latin America, with the majority of rice farms located in the states of Sinaloa, Nayarit, and Campeche.

I've heard recent grumblings about any rice in mexican food as being inauthentic

These people are fucking idiots. Mexico has one of the most varied and wide-ranging food cultures on earth. Just about everything you can imagine is being made and eaten in some part of Mexico.

Yeah I'd like to see someone saying that go to Mexicali and try and get away with that shit.

The one time I watched This Is Spinal Tap, 40 years ago, I laughed a lot. But I don't ever need to see it again, and the existence of an extended Spinal Tap universe of sequels, actual albums, etc., etc. is baffling and dispiriting to me.

there’s a couple places i like that do mexican rice right — super aromatic and rich, i literally look forward to the ricey bites in my burrito because it’s so delicious. if you’re getting mid food i could see how you might think the rice is filler but even then it’s nice as a textural balance

I have no problem with rice in mexican food, I just don’t dig it in a burrito. Rice is sorta delicate and if it’s jammed in there with a bunch of other ingredients it’s not as though the rice is being savored. It is filler. A burrito only has so much room in it, I would rather have more of anything but rice. Personal preference, ymmv, not putting down people that like rice in a burrito or making grand claims about the role of rice in X cuisine.

the little thing that I read was that rice was a colonial introduction, not a new world crop

but that's like saying the Irish shouldn't eat potatoes

Supposedly the cooking method/flavors of anything "al pastor" were brought to Mexico by Lebanese immigrants, it's not an accident that it's made out of a giant rotating spit of meat as is done in Mediterranean/MENA cuisines. I'm not complaining!

mmmm yum cross-pollination, my favorite flavor

see also Peruvian food taking stuff from Chinese cuisine

now I want lomo saltado

Ikr! There’s a good place for that down the street from me

Also, the kind of Central American food that has hot dogs and fries in every didh

Dish

even Mexican beer owes a big debt to German immigrants, i.e. 'Bohemia' etc.

There was a recent Guardian pictorial essay about Germans in Belize, still blonde & blue eyed after many generations

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2021/jun/29/mennonites-belize-pictures-photography-jake-michaels-c1950

correction, almost every international pale lager owes a tremendous debt to the Carlsberg brewery where Emil Christian Hansen isolated the yeast used to make basically all of them

I never tried lager as a homebrewer for that specific reason, gotta keep it colder than a normal house b/c the yeast is fussy

xp that might be true, but the Danes didn't bring it to the new world, twas the germans

Rice is an essential part of Mission burritos. It is toasted in oil and simmered in broth with onion, garlic and a little tomato paste. It’s not like they just stuff jasmine rice in, it adds a very definite taste and texture

I ate a burrito recently in San Diego which was just al pastor and beans. It was good, but I missed the other ingredients, the rice especially

my controp of the day: if your IPA doesn't have gypsum or extremely hard water in it, then it's not an IPA it's just an overhopped pale

whoa

Rice is an essential part of Mission burritos. It is toasted in oil and simmered in broth with onion, garlic and a little tomato paste.

YES this is so delicious. I have a recipe somewhere for making it in the oven too, it comes out better than stovetop that way.

xp burrito talk: yeah idk rice is a burrito essential for me. ties the whole thing together. every perfect burrito i've had contained rice

otm

(unless you're talking about old-school bean & cheese burritos which really don't need anything else)

Rice is sorta delicate and if it’s jammed in there with a bunch of other ingredients it’s not as though the rice is being savored. It is filler. A burrito only has so much room in it, I would rather have more of anything but rice.

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one of several times itt I have been swayed by a post. Formerly neutral on rice in burritos, now against

rice is there for handheld burritos that have extra juicy ingredients to maintain structural integrity. and the beans take on all the juicy flavors

Agree. I love pouring on salsa and drenching my burritos.

Bean and cheese burritos are easy to make at home though, I add some guacasalsa and hot sauce for a homemade burrito experience

Fully onboard with disliking rice in burritos. I've almost posted a similar take in here a few times. It's also just carbs wrapped in carbs. Mission style burritos are too busy with ingredients. Beans, meat, salsa, and maybe avocado slices, is all I need in mine. I like my burritos like my pizza; few ingredients but each should be perfect.

what about disliking rice in sushi rolls

I'm ok with seasoned rice (very carby) in burritos same as I'm ok with seasoned beans (very carby) in burritos.

we need a rice-in-burritos preferences poll. it could be along the lines of:

with rice
without rice
it's more complicated than that

I'd rather have two tacos and a side of rice than a burrito

i got two rice 'ritos and a microphone