Sight and Sound 2022 Round 8: 241-250 (well 264, to be exact)

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We've reached the end of the top 250, with some extras this time due to the ties.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
ANNIE HALL (Woody Allen; 1977) 12
SULLIVAN'S TRAVELS (Preston Sturges; 1941) 5
FLOWERS OF SHANGHAI (Hou Hsiao-hsien; 1998) 5
A CANTERBURY TALE (Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger; 1944) 4
SYNDROMES AND A CENTURY (Apichatpong Weerasethakul; 2006) 3
POSSESSION (Andrzej Żuławski; 1981) 3
TASTE OF CHERRY (Abbas Kiarostami; 1997) 2
MY DARLING CLEMENTINE (John Ford; 1946) 2
MOUCHETTE (Robert Bresson; 1967) 2
AS I WAS MOVING AHEAD, OCCASIONALLY I SAW BRIEF GLIMPSES OF BEAUTY (Jonas Mekas; 2000) 2
THE LAST LAUGH (F.W. Murnau; 1924) 1
THE QUINCE TREE SUN (Victor Erice; 1992) 1
EARTH (Aleksandr Dovzhenko; 1930) 1
PETITE MAMAN (Céline Sciamma; 2021) 1
WERCKMEISTER HARMONIES (Béla Tarr; 2000) 1
VIDEODROME (David Cronenberg; 1983) 0
MORVERN CALLAR (Lynne Ramsay; 2002) 0
A CLOCKWORK ORANGE (Stanley Kubrick; 1971) 0
DISTANT VOICES, STILL LIVES (Terence Davies; 1988) 0
SOLEIL Ô (Med Hondo; 1970) 0
L'INTRUS (Claire Denis; 2004) 0
IN VANDA'S ROOM (Pedro Costa; 2000) 0
NOSTALGIA FOR THE LIGHT (Patricio Guzmán; 2010) 0
PANDORA'S BOX (G.W. Pabst; 1929) 0


fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 18 August 2023 13:26 (one year ago)

The winners so far:

2001: A Space Odyssey
Playtime
Stalker
The Third Man (tie)
Goodfellas (tie)
Spirited Away (tie)
The Spirit of the Beehive
Goodbye, Dragon Inn
The Seventh Seal
Pickpocket
Black Narcissus
Double Indemnity
Zama
Crash

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 18 August 2023 13:29 (one year ago)

Several favorites but few I love:

A Canterbury Tale
Flowers of Shanghai
Sullivan's Travels
A Taste of Cherry

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 August 2023 13:32 (one year ago)

My vote's a foregone conclusion, but these are solid runners-up:

A Canterbury Tale
My Darling Clementine
Pandora's Box
Syndromes and a Century
Werckmeister Harmonies

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 18 August 2023 13:39 (one year ago)

oh yeah I'd add My Darling Clementine (on most days my favorite Ford western) and Pandora's Box.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 August 2023 13:43 (one year ago)

I've only seen it once, but I loved the Jonas Mekas film. After that, yes, Annie Hall--which, unlike Manhattan, I can still watch and enjoy--Werckmeister Harmonies (again, based on a single viewing), and, even though I hate all the gross stuff near the end, Videodrome.

clemenza, Friday, 18 August 2023 13:50 (one year ago)

Flowers of Shanghai, with A Canterbury Tale, Pandora’s Box, My Darling Clementine and possibly Possession in the runners-up.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 18 August 2023 13:52 (one year ago)

Did anyone catch Werckmeister Harmonies at Film Forum last May?

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 August 2023 13:52 (one year ago)

i feel like A Canterbury Tale and Videodrome would make a tight double bill

you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 August 2023 13:53 (one year ago)

The Mekas remains tantalizingly out of reach for me so far

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 18 August 2023 13:53 (one year ago)

Not only was I lucky enough to see it, I spoke to him for two or three minutes after the film.

clemenza, Friday, 18 August 2023 13:56 (one year ago)

(Meeting famous people is far from a preoccupation of mine. But Mekas, that's someone I'm compelled to post about.)

clemenza, Friday, 18 August 2023 13:57 (one year ago)

Peter Kubelka, when I saw him, talked for so long before actually showing the movie that I had to bolt before the Q&A could even begin

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:18 (one year ago)

L'intrus,Possession and Werckmeister Harmonies could all have won other polls, but there's no way I don't vote for Syndromes and a Century. That movie's a portal to another dimension!

Cherish, Friday, 18 August 2023 17:18 (one year ago)

Amazing the way Possession has grown in favour over recent years. It got some seriously stinky reviews at the time:

Possession received lukewarm critical response when it was initially released in the summer of 1981. Derek Malcolm of The Guardian stated that, while Żuławski displayed talent and the special effects were unforgettable, the film itself was far too serious for its own good. Dennis Schwartz from Ozus' World Movie Reviews gave the film a grade of "C+", calling it "an uncompromising demented cult oddity". Leonard Maltin wrote of the film: "Adjani 'creates' a monster, to the consternation of husband Neill, lover Bennent—and the viewer", ultimately deeming the film a "confusing drama of murder, horror, intrigue, though it's all attractively directed". Vincent Canby of The New York Times wrote, "At times, the living-color Possession recalls Roman Polanski's black-and-white Repulsion, though only because Miss Adjani is required to slice up as many male victims as Catherine Deneuve did in the earlier, far better film."

Harry Haun of the New York Daily News panned the film, awarding it one-and-a-half out of four stars and writing that Adjani's "prize-winning mad-act is impossible to appraise because the film it's in is outlandishly unhinged as well... Just about any dialogue accompanying this mess would seem ludicrous". The Philadelphia Daily News's Joe Baltake deemed the film a "boringly camp-elegante attempt by a group of reputable French, German and Polish filmmakers" and assessed Adjani's performance as "babbling, incoherent yet arresting".

Ward Fowler, Friday, 18 August 2023 17:19 (one year ago)

(Norm Macdonald voice) A dimension called...BOREDOM!

(Sorry, Cherish and everyone else who loves that film and filmmaker--just couldn't pass up the joke.)

clemenza, Friday, 18 August 2023 17:20 (one year ago)

Wha-- !

I don't feel bad about Crash anymore, haha.

Cherish, Friday, 18 August 2023 18:41 (one year ago)

I never did.

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 18 August 2023 19:00 (one year ago)

at first glance thought it would be between annie hall or canterbury tale, but looked again and realised neither of those had veronica lake in them.

oscar bravo, Friday, 18 August 2023 20:07 (one year ago)

will have to watch Flowers of Shanghai again. I only saw it once shortly after it came out, but remember it as being incredibly beautiful

Dan S, Friday, 18 August 2023 22:36 (one year ago)

It’s interesting to see such a recent film as Céline Sciama’s Petite Maman(from 2021) on this list. Although it had a somewhat surreal and meta plot line, there were no particularly dramatic moments in the film, and it was confusing at first because it featured two girls who in the story were from ostensibly separate families but who in real life were played by identical twins. As far as I remember it wasn't reviewed or discussed that much at the time, but it was a memorable film

Dan S, Friday, 18 August 2023 23:21 (one year ago)

of all the films Claire Denis has made, I think The Intruder (L'Intrus, 2004) is the most opaque to interpretation

Dan S, Friday, 18 August 2023 23:47 (one year ago)

As a Céline Sciama fan, I don't at all get the affection for Petite Maman

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 August 2023 23:49 (one year ago)

I think it is ultimately about children and their capacity to believe, and how adults need to understand that to understand children

Dan S, Saturday, 19 August 2023 00:07 (one year ago)

I became an adult in the 70s, and Annie Hall was a seminal film for me

Dan S, Saturday, 19 August 2023 00:31 (one year ago)

I really liked Syndromes and a Century, but I think it is the most linear of Joe's films. His willingness to float into the ether in his later films has been so amazing

Dan S, Saturday, 19 August 2023 00:51 (one year ago)

As far as I remember it wasn't reviewed or discussed that much at the time

It made all these Year-End lists and got rave reviews pretty much everywhere! It was v much discussed:

https://www.yearendlists.com/visuals/petite-maman-f20b2791-a752-4961-86bb-c8cc5b4f0fd2

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 19 August 2023 06:56 (one year ago)

A CANTERBURY TALE
FLOWERS OF SHANGHAI

need to flip a coin here

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 19 August 2023 07:21 (one year ago)

"NOSTALGIA FOR THE LIGHT (Patricio Guzmán; 2010)"

As good as this is it's incredible that Battle for Chile isn't in the list?

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 August 2023 08:05 (one year ago)

I've been wanting to see Zulawski's Possession for a long time but it has not been available in any format in the US until recently. I see it is now on AMC, but I don't want to have to subscribe to another useless cable service just to watch this film

Dan S, Saturday, 19 August 2023 22:55 (one year ago)

As far as I remember it wasn't reviewed or discussed that much at the time

― Dan S, Friday, August 18, 2023

It made all these Year-End lists and got rave reviews pretty much everywhere! It was v much discussed:

https://www.yearendlists.com/visuals/petite-maman-f20b2791-a752-4961-86bb-c8cc5b4f0fd2

― Ward Fowler, Friday, August 18, 2023

But it wasn't talked about at the time as if it were one of the 250 best films of all time, which is a very high bar. I'm ok with that, though, it's as good as any of these films

Dan S, Saturday, 19 August 2023 23:55 (one year ago)

In Vanda's Room was an intimate experience and was an incredible film, portraying someone confessing about their drug abuse in their bedroom. It had a very refreshing non-filmic quality, but it was almost too sad

Dan S, Sunday, 20 August 2023 00:29 (one year ago)

The Erice is one of my all-time favourites, and this list contains my personal best by Apichatpong, Costa and Hou.

Haven't seen Possession yet, and based on my response to the other three Żuławski I've seen, I'm not hopeful. ""Impossible to appraise because the film it's in is outlandishly unhinged" about covers it.

I'm ambivalent about Werckmeister Harmonies because I'd written about and interviewed Tarr in 1995, very enthusiastic about Sátántangó, and my expectations were perhaps too high. I found a certain contrivance - unlike his two previous films, it felt like onscreen events were happening for the sake of creating long takes, rather than long takes being used to capture events that wouldn't be the same depicted otherwise. Also, there was a new streak of pathos or sentimentality (say in the depiction of the fool, or the big fish), that I'm not sure he had in control.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 15:37 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:01 (one year ago)

Voted for Hou, the looked and saw In Vanda's Room. Oops.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 September 2023 09:19 (one year ago)

Hou needs more love these days, it seems

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:33 (one year ago)

(After this, I will do the poll of the winners, which I fully expect to end in a tie of Goodfellas and The Third Man)

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:34 (one year ago)

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xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 September 2023 16:48 (one year ago)

also ended up voting for Flowers of Shanghai

Dan S, Thursday, 7 September 2023 23:00 (one year ago)

it is on the criterion channel

Dan S, Thursday, 7 September 2023 23:03 (one year ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 8 September 2023 00:01 (one year ago)

Perverts

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 8 September 2023 02:13 (one year ago)

Lol, the solution is for Allen to be totally banished from S&S.

Give it ten years.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 September 2023 10:54 (one year ago)

All those people who voted Spirit of the Beehive #1 in one of the other polls need to check out Quince Tree Sun!

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 September 2023 19:04 (one year ago)

It me.

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 September 2023 19:56 (one year ago)

And don’t sleep on The South!

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 September 2023 19:56 (one year ago)

one year passes...

THE LAST LAUGH (F.W. Murnau; 1924)

Very touching film, the restoration is so beautiful to look at.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 September 2024 20:38 (eight months ago)


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