Your hardline opinions and pet peeves.

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I hope this is a self explanatory thread.

1. Pulp fiction should only refer to the writing published in pulp wood magazines from the teens thru the fifties.
2. If you wrote the song, it's not folk music.

ian, Saturday, 19 August 2023 01:59 (one year ago)

"pulp-wood paper magazines" sorry i'm just too fired up to proofread before i post

ian, Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:00 (one year ago)

what should we call original songs written in the folk idiom?

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:15 (one year ago)

SSW

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:17 (one year ago)

Folk idiom is too broad a term imo but sure, singer songwriter, country, fuckin indie rock. It’s a term that is not about any sonic quality but about the origin of a song and it’s context.

ian, Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:28 (one year ago)

But this thread again is about opinions you know are hardline and eccentric but embrace anyway. I know I’m being a crank.

ian, Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:29 (one year ago)

if you wrote the song, it's not pop music

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:31 (one year ago)

film is an overrated medium

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:34 (one year ago)

Well………..
3. There are only three kinds of music: folk, classical (incl religious styles), and pop.

So I would disagree but tell me why, just because if the literal meaning of “popular”?

ian, Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:35 (one year ago)

film is an overrated medium

Now we’re talking

ian, Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:36 (one year ago)

film is an overrated medium

Now we’re talking

ian, Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:36 (one year ago)

those coffee cup lids are really annoying and never stay on properly

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:39 (one year ago)

there are two goddamn spaces after a period, you fucking children

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:41 (one year ago)

this aint the new yorker

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:43 (one year ago)

sorry I think that was #6

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:45 (one year ago)

"stupid" is not an ableist word FFS, it literally means a temporary state of mind

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:45 (one year ago)

(7)

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:46 (one year ago)

there are two goddamn spaces after a period

fp'd, you . . . you . . . bastard

also coffee is terrible. i mean apart from the grand history of exploitation that supports coffee, it also tastes like shit. (i will grant that coffee beans smell wonderful, if not as wonderful as curing tobacco)

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:48 (one year ago)

fuck etymology people use it all the time to mean a thing certain people inherently are xp

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:50 (one year ago)

8) if I go to Cici's Pizza and I hear the announcement "order of wings for Joe", I get mad. Bro it's a pizza buffet, you can eat all of the shittiest slices and tasteless pasta you want. If you order shitty wings IN ADDITION to your buffet YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG

earosmith (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:52 (one year ago)

also because I hate people named Joe

earosmith (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:52 (one year ago)

(9)

earosmith (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:52 (one year ago)

10) if u get onto an elevator that has lit-up up and down arrows to tell you which what it's going, and you ask "is this elevator going up?" after the doors closed, the elevator should be immediately opened where it is and u forced to get out

earosmith (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:53 (one year ago)

people should never hold the door open for other people, it always creates a huge clusterfuck and is a crime against efficient movement.

ꙮ (map), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:54 (one year ago)

12) David Cassidy

earosmith (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:55 (one year ago)

13 is actually lucky

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 19 August 2023 02:57 (one year ago)

14. Cats and dogs are both wonderful.

ian, Saturday, 19 August 2023 03:11 (one year ago)

15. NYC pizza is overrated

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 19 August 2023 03:15 (one year ago)

fuck etymology people use it all the time to mean a thing certain people inherently are xp

― your original display name is still visible (Left),

FP'd you for this because my stance is hardline and not negotiable, it's different than the other words which do deserve to be retired. stupid is equal opportunity, anyone can be stupid.

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 19 August 2023 03:19 (one year ago)

film is an overrated medium

Why would I want to watch a bunch of photographs in such rapid succession? Let me look at one, and I'll tell you when I'm ready to look at the next.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 19 August 2023 03:22 (one year ago)

16. There are too many sports

hrep (H.P), Saturday, 19 August 2023 03:44 (one year ago)

17. People who don’t like coffee are literal children (nothing personal mookieproof)

hrep (H.P), Saturday, 19 August 2023 03:47 (one year ago)

18. vegan/vegetarians that tell non-veg people they have the best tofu recipe to get them off of meat

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 19 August 2023 03:53 (one year ago)

Is that recipe for tofu or a recipe involving tofu

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Saturday, 19 August 2023 03:59 (one year ago)

19. this is another challops thread

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 19 August 2023 04:39 (one year ago)

xp recipe for tofu

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 19 August 2023 05:15 (one year ago)

20. arguing on this website is a waste of time, you should only ever add your horrible opinion to the waste bin of posts

budo jeru, Saturday, 19 August 2023 05:19 (one year ago)

21. Italy and Portugal are the only European countries where you can get a decent espresso.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 19 August 2023 09:31 (one year ago)

yeah I was all ready to jump on the coffee is overrated train until I remembered my time in portugal

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 19 August 2023 09:41 (one year ago)

bad coffee is more than fine if you haven't had your palette spoiled by the good stuff imo

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 19 August 2023 09:53 (one year ago)

the best tofu recipes involve meat

https://i.postimg.cc/DfX0vXVd/licensed-image-1.jpg

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 19 August 2023 09:57 (one year ago)

remember my first time drinking espresso in Italy "wtf, this doesn't taste bitter and nasty?!"

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 19 August 2023 09:58 (one year ago)

Leafblowers. Use a rake!

nashwan, Saturday, 19 August 2023 11:32 (one year ago)

people should never hold the door open for other people, it always creates a huge clusterfuck and is a crime against efficient movement.


This one I don't mind but

23. People stopped at a stop sign (motorists AND pedestrians) should just go when it's their turn to go and never wave someone else on, it always creates a huge clusterfuck and is a crime against efficient movement.

I could fill this thread to the brim with my hardline opinions re: people moving through public spaces amongst other people.

Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Saturday, 19 August 2023 11:35 (one year ago)

Yeah drivers inviting you to cross in front of them at an un-signaled turning when you've already mentally prepared to stop and wait for them to pass does grind my gears probably to an unreasonable amount tbh.

nashwan, Saturday, 19 August 2023 11:41 (one year ago)

Ahh fuckit

24. Pedestrians! Treat the sidewalk like you're in a car driving down the street. Remain to the right (or whichever side is standard for cars in your country)! If you need to pass someone, check with yourself that you're actually going faster than the person in front of you and don't just weirdly want to be in front of them for no particular reason but walking at a slower speed so they in turn have to slow their own pace! If you have to use a handheld electronic device and cannot maintain a steady pace or refrain from weaving all over the sidewalk like your freakin gyroscope is busted, pull the eff over! If you're walking hand-in-hand with your sweetie, be mindful of other pedestrians and do not run them off the walk! Never ever ever walk side by side by side with three or more people unless there is clearly no one else present (or you're ready to go single file at the drop of a hat)! Do not exit a building and swing out onto the sidewalk without slowing your pace or even bothering to check whether there might be another human being already occupying the space you're attempting to fill! If you need to stop/window shop on the sidewalk, again, do not just start mindlessly walking again as if the human traffic conditions on the sidewalk have not changed since you came to a halt (there might be someone behind you)! If you find that you're going in the wrong direction DO NOT make an immediate 180-degree turn (there might be someone behind you)! Cyclists...GET THE FUCK OFF THE SIDEWALK, IT IS NOT FOR YOU (AND IN MOST INSTANCES IN THE CITY I LIVE IN AND ON THE SIDEWALKS I FREQUENT, THERE IS A BIKE LANE LITERALLY RIGHT THERE)!

As I'm like 95% pedestrian at this point (and very lucky/thankful to be able to walk to work), I have strong feelings. I'm sure I have more related feelings that I don't remember at the moment because I'm not presently walking.

Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Saturday, 19 August 2023 11:53 (one year ago)

25. People making their main living on social media as an influencer or purveyor of cat videos (or whatever) should be super-taxed to i) reflect its social toxicity and ii) try to strongly discourage people making their living this way.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 19 August 2023 12:35 (one year ago)

26. Pedestrians should be able to walk all over the road without risk of death or being honked / yelled at and it's one of the less trumpeted outrages of the previous century that cars were able to colonise so much of our space killing and disabling 10s of millions of us in the process and that's not even getting into air quality, climate change, or the aesthetic abominations that are cars and motorways and the cities and suburbs built around them

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 19 August 2023 12:42 (one year ago)

27. cars are good tho

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 August 2023 12:45 (one year ago)

if you don't mind how smelly and ugly and deadly they are I'm sure they're great

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 19 August 2023 12:54 (one year ago)

What profession requires one space after a period?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 16:50 (one year ago)

I mean if I was told for my job I had to lose the extra space, I could probably train myself, but without the motivation of losing my job if I don't, sorry, not gonna adjust!

earosmith (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 August 2023 16:52 (one year ago)

What profession requires one space after a period?

Journalism. Writing books. One space is standard in publishing.

read-only (unperson), Sunday, 20 August 2023 16:54 (one year ago)

I think the two spaces thing is antiquated at this point but tell that to my fingers

earosmith (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 August 2023 16:58 (one year ago)

I learned to type when I was at school - most useful thing I was taught - complete with two spaces after the full stop. But as unperson says, that’s a no-no in magazine publishing and the single space is now second nature to me (and I can spot an erroneous double space at twenty paces). I’m guessing it’s to do with neatness of type on a page, where more often than not you’re battling to fit as much text as possible - every double space means a text cut somewhere else.

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:00 (one year ago)

I guess I've never had to learn any different. Rules of court are often weirdly specific (e.g., font and spacing), but I've never seen anyone require a single space.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:01 (one year ago)

most useful thing I was taught

I learned when my grandfather made me take the Smith-Corona typing course (consisting of several 45s and a workbook) one summer. I deeply resented him then, but have been grateful ever since.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:04 (one year ago)

Rules of court are often weirdly specific (e.g., font and spacing), but I've never seen anyone require a single space.

Yeah, I think legal documents may require a double space for stupid arcane reasons no one's ever bothered to change. I know when laws are written up for Congress there are all kinds of rules about that shit, most of them stupid, which is why some senator or representative can slap a huge dictionary-sized volume on the podium in front of cameras and shout, "This law is 900 pages long!" when if you typed it up normally it would be, like, 40 pages.

read-only (unperson), Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:08 (one year ago)

It mostly depends on the personal biases of the judges who write the rules.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:09 (one year ago)

do you all work in publishing or you sitting here wordied about like internal emails and shit

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:31 (one year ago)

One space is the standard now and I accept that, but as someone who grew up with two spaces being standard, it SUCKS to try to retrain myself. Now I end up with non-standard spacing, sometimes one space, sometimes two, which is the worst of all worlds.

emil.y, Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:33 (one year ago)

gonna go big, five spaces between words. sometimes between letters in a word.

earosmith (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:38 (one year ago)

I write public documents for a local government.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:40 (one year ago)

but APA and Chicago Manual of Style say one period after a sentence

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 20 August 2023 18:05 (one year ago)

They both mandate the Oxford comma, iirc.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 18:07 (one year ago)

it all went to hell when people started saying "same difference" instead of "same thing". nobody could explain why they did it. all of a sudden everyone just did it. and thus the rise of Trump...

scott seward, Sunday, 20 August 2023 18:33 (one year ago)

They both mandate the Oxford comma, iirc.

I do proofreading and copy editing for a medical equipment manufacturer and a health insurance company, and one mandates the Oxford comma and the other doesn't. Once I've been with the insurance company for a while I'm gonna try to push them into the pro-Oxford camp. As it is, I slip one in whenever I think it's necessary for clarity and can get away with it.

read-only (unperson), Sunday, 20 August 2023 18:45 (one year ago)

my hardline: americans are incapable of making great movies now. or even very good movies. they forgot how. they've got all the tech and know-how and money and they can make you a 300 million dollar piece of finely-tuned buffed and shined crap like nobody's business. though china or india will make it for 1/3 the money and it will be way more entertaining. americans don't have any good stories. its all the same story now. go to school. go to film school. make movies. go to school. go to acting school. act in movies. so boring. option some old piece of crap and make it new. americans would be so much better off if they just embraced their phones 100% and made all their movies on them. its what they know and love. when i think of the movies that blew my mind in the last ten years: alcarras, il buco, azor, gritt, notturno, undergods, new order, davos, air conditioner, lucky chan-sil, stray dogs, white god, a sun, the cave, bacarau, to the ends of the earth, raw, baskin, not to mention all the insane and amazing genre stuff. crime, horror, action, etc. none of that stuff could be made here by someone who grew up here now. nobody knows about anything or what people are like. you never see life on the screen. they don't have any vision. occasionally some indie person pulls a malick and everyone oohs and ahhs because its refreshing to not see matt damon in something. or someone like nicole holofcener or noah baumbach will actually write an actual screenplay that is not completely stupid and people will call them heroes. even though their movies are all so...eh. its such a big country. why aren't people out exploring it? maybe everyone with talent is too busy directing episodes of reservation dogs. i see a lot of old indie stalwarts directing those streaming series. maybe a younger generation will show some life. or not. in the end it doesn't matter. there is just a ridiculous amount of imagination coming out of every part of the planet. eastern europe. south america. mexico. india. south korea. japan. china. everywhere. the most beautiful art that is also really really entertaining! its not stodgy arthouse fare. jaw-dropping stuff. and here people weep for nomadland, a lovesong to amazon. blah. they can have it. (also greenberg is one of the worst movies i've ever seen. not least because ben stiller plays a carpenter in it. a carpenter!!?? as if we could ever believe that ben stiller knew how to do anything! he's ben stiller! also: Marriage Story? really? that's a great movie? oof. kelly reichardt. there's another one. timid pale stuff. no guts no glory. its like movies for people who are too scared to watch real movies. lite movies. i just watch television when i need that liteness.)

scott seward, Sunday, 20 August 2023 19:12 (one year ago)

It never would have occurred to me to describe Nomadland as a love song to Amazon.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 19:14 (one year ago)

Nomadland the film had a very message re: Amazon(who helped fund it and allowed them to film at a warehouse) than the book it’s ostensibly based on

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 20 August 2023 19:44 (one year ago)

*had a very _different_ message

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 20 August 2023 19:44 (one year ago)

OK, but it's not exactly Castaway.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 19:45 (one year ago)

I agree that it should be way harder to get a driver’s license but not because of crazy dangerous psychos but just regular people doing dumb dangerous shit without even realizing how dumb dangerous it is

brimstead, Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:08 (one year ago)

I’m honestly amazed I’ve only seen one major traffic accident occur in real time

brimstead, Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:09 (one year ago)

scott, I love ya, but you're 100% wrong. I saw Passages this weekend -- terrific. And so long as Kelly Reichardt, Greta Gerwig, Terence Malick, etc. can still make movies, American ci-ne-mah is fine.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:15 (one year ago)

And I love Bacarau, Stray Dogs, The Cave, etc. as much as you.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:15 (one year ago)

xxxpost after I drove a 27 inch trunk to Georgia I realized how scary it was that someone like me was allowed to drive a 27 inch truck to Georgia

earosmith (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:23 (one year ago)

My daughter drives a tow truck. The shit she's seen, I'm surprised she wants to drive at all.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:24 (one year ago)

I agree that it should be way harder to get a driver’s license but not because of crazy dangerous psychos but just regular people doing dumb dangerous shit without even realizing how dumb dangerous it is

― brimstead, Sunday, August 20, 2023 3:08 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I’m honestly amazed I’ve only seen one major traffic accident occur in real time

― brimstead, Sunday, August 20, 2023 3:09 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh yeah to be fair i meant dumb dangerous driving from regular folks, not limited to people like that one who intentionally drove thru an intersection at 100+ MPH and killed six people here in L.A. I just see normal people driving like maniacs, just total disrespect for the powers of physics and gravity and momentum. little miniature Stockton Rushes all over the place, itching to die and take others with them.

omar little, Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:28 (one year ago)

scott, I love ya, but you're 100% wrong.

when hardline opinions collide the the rational response is... a poll!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:49 (one year ago)

I commuted 30 miles to work each way every day for years and have seen so much crazy driving, e.g. people barreling down the dangerous curves on hills along 280 in San Mateo County in pitch black in the rain, driving Escalades and F-150s, as Alfred said. Insane

Dan S, Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:50 (one year ago)

Florida has the most aggressively bad drivers I've ever encountered. Atlanta is a close second.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:53 (one year ago)

Yes.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:55 (one year ago)

i almost got destroyed a few weeks ago when I was zipper merging towards the end of a merging lane and not one, two, but three vehicles aggressively accelerated to keep me out.

one of em did so in a company vehicle with deets so.....

earosmith (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:56 (one year ago)

My dad, who is intelligent but almost completely lacks what most of us would call "common sense," used to commute every day from Port Richey to Tampa. On his motorcycle. I think he finally put the bike away after maybe the third time he nearly ended up a smear on the pavement.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:57 (one year ago)

xp Nean, that's SOP for Atlanta drivers.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:58 (one year ago)

Have you ever driven in Texas? ATL was my gold standard for aggressive drivers until I encountered Houston.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:59 (one year ago)

driven in Houston a few times but mostly I was in Conroe/Woodlands which is a bit more mellow

earosmith (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 August 2023 23:00 (one year ago)

xp I drove through Texas a couple times in the early 90s, but not in the major urban areas. Watching out for Texas plates was definitely an essential part of defensive driving in Colorado.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 23:01 (one year ago)

the one time I went to Colorado everyone on the road seemed so mellow and the only aggressive driver for most of the trip was....the driver of the car I was in, who was also from Florida.

earosmith (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 August 2023 23:03 (one year ago)

Surprisingly, the most aggression I ever got was from drivers who didn't want to share the road with a bicycle.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 23:07 (one year ago)

I assume most of those people have since moved to Texas or Florida.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 23:08 (one year ago)

there is just a ridiculous amount of imagination coming out of every part of the planet. eastern europe. south america. mexico. india. south korea. japan. china. everywhere. the most beautiful art that is also really really entertaining! its not stodgy arthouse fare. jaw-dropping stuff.

― scott seward, Sunday, August 20, 2023

yes

My real pet peeve is how reluctant my family and friends are to watch films with subtitles. I wonder - so it’s a foreign film, is it that hard for you, can you not extend yourself even a little?

That said, as far as American films go I think Kelly Reichardt is pretty great

Dan S, Sunday, 20 August 2023 23:18 (one year ago)

I'm gonna get a driver's license next week, for the first time in ~30 years. Thus far I do not enjoy driving; it feels like work. I will do it whenever I have to but the idea of driving somewhere and taking pleasure in the driving itself is completely baffling to me.

read-only (unperson), Sunday, 20 August 2023 23:25 (one year ago)

I love long road trips, but more for the opportunity to indulge in long trains of thought and to listen to long-form podcasts and audiobooks than for the actual experience of driving.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 23:31 (one year ago)

i love driving, im comfortable behind the wheel, but omar and everyone since otm about driving

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 21 August 2023 00:33 (one year ago)

We lived in San Jose, CA for ten years and I thought the driving there was pretty bad. It was doofus driving: not using turn signals, that kind of thing. Stoned driving.

Then we moved to Houston and holy cow. Aggressively shitty driving, it was awful. The roads are huge and everybody is in a hurry and most of them are angry. There's a stretch of road (I45) from Houston to Woodlands/Conroe that is supposedly the most dangerous stretch of highway in the USA. I have friends that lived up past Conroe so after hanging out I'd drive back down 45 at night. There was one night where I saw two separate flaming wrecks.

Glad to move away, I really didn't want to teach my kids to drive there.

Cow_Art, Monday, 21 August 2023 01:38 (one year ago)

I spend nearly half my life in LA, I’d much rather drive here than Atlanta.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 21 August 2023 01:39 (one year ago)

Doofus driving, yes that’s it!

brimstead, Monday, 21 August 2023 01:39 (one year ago)

i'm actually pretty perfectly comfortable driving the freeways here, the situations and times that kinda spook me are the open stretches of surface streets, especially in the Valley and Orange County, after midnight and before 6 AM.

omar little, Monday, 21 August 2023 01:48 (one year ago)


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