Generation six time! Do we hate generations as meaningless milestones? Kinda! Does it make for good polls though? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT BUSTER
(Copy-pasting from the last poll now...)
"Because why not, instead of a 20-game max ballot, I've upped it to 40!!! THIS ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT MEAN YOU NEED 40 GAMES. If you only wanna do 5 or 3 or 1 even, that's great! WE NEVER GET MANY BALLOTS FOR VIDEO GAME STUFF so anything I can do to encourage you to cast one, I will do. What do you need? Tell me!!!
I'm using a similar system to last time, you can make a weighted, unweighted or hybrid ballot...
- Weighted. You can vote for up to 40 games, in order, and they will receive 80, 78, 76... 6, 4, 2 points respectively.- Unweighted. You can vote for up to 40 games, in any order, and they will all receive 42 points.- Hybrid. The first games will receive weighted points (80, 78, 76...) and anything after the "weighted" section will receive the remaining points, split equally. Don't worry, the spreadsheet handles this.
The spreadsheet for ballot-making! Select File -> Make a Copy to have your very own.
Consoles are not listed on the ballot, but you can check this separate spreadsheet to see what it's listed as (comment here or in the spreadsheet if i've screwed something up and I'll fix it).
Once you have your ballot, send it to ps2ilx at gmail (I prefer you just copy-paste the ballot text! sending google sheets is annoying and complicated) and I'll start adding them up! Deadline set for November 8th which will almost certainly end up getting pushed but if MOST of you can hit this deadline it'll make my life MUCH EASIER. There's already stuff in the ballot to show how it works, just erase that and do yours."
I put a month+ to get your ballots in so hopefully that's enough time! We'll move it if we have to. Hopefully we get some voters!!
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:07 (two years ago)
:D
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:16 (two years ago)
metroid: zero mission is in the nominations twice (it was not a gamecube game either), and i think someone intended to nominate devil may cry 1 to 3 separately with 'devil may cry 1-3'
i put together a ballot quickly, not very hard because i haven't played a whole lot from this era. this generation was just a little before my time in terms of owning a console (the wii was the first i owned) so the few all-time classic games i love from this era i played later on for the most part. i did have a gba but i didn't have anything worthwhile for it except pokemon.
― ufo, Thursday, 7 September 2023 03:30 (two years ago)
thanks so much for organizing this and all the others Will
campaigning hard for Mother 3, so stupid that it has still never been officially localized and released internationally? but the fan translation is great, weird that fans had to do it but did they ever, only videogame that has made me cry, just beautiful stuff and a very fitting cap to the Mother/Earthbound trilogy
― Florin Cuchares, Thursday, 7 September 2023 03:51 (two years ago)
Just finished my ballot. Like UFO, I also missed out on a bunch of this gen at the time. I had a Dreamcast at launch, but from 2001 until 2015ish, I was almost completely out of the loop with gaming, so I missed a lot of classic stuff here. I've still never played Ico or Shadow of the Colossus, for instance. As such, my ballot is a little weird.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 7 September 2023 18:27 (two years ago)
house of the dead 2 and segagaga/sggg are duplicated as well
as usual i've also not played that many games and no way i'm voting only for those i did play because this gen was the dark ages for me wrt to figuring out where to spend my limited money
more than half my ballot will be filled with stuff i've only watched LPs of, or that seems interesting in any sense
― chihuahuau, Thursday, 7 September 2023 20:20 (two years ago)
my biggest stumbling block to voting is there are a few games on the list i'm pretty sure i'd love more than most of the games i've played but i don't have the time or means to play them
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 7 September 2023 21:11 (two years ago)
extras of Metroid 0M, HOTD2, SGGG deleted, and DMC 1-3 split out into 3 choices! thanks for double checking the lists. should be on both the ballot helper and the original doc now, as intended.
ufo and zchyrs - ballots well received! thanks!
also i have no idea how i worked around it last time, but the ballot helper thing is not exactly... helping with short unweighted/hybrid ballots. gonna try to figure it out today. no problems with ranked-only ballots, or 40-game ballots of any type (if we receive any of those i'll be wildly impressed!)
if you're really burning to send a hybrid or unweighted ballot in the meantime, feel free, i will manually assign the correct number of points per game for now
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Friday, 8 September 2023 19:36 (two years ago)
whew ok easier than i expected to fix, never mind the ballot helper works better than ever now :)
all you have to do, unweighted/hybrid voter, is make sure you put ranks where ranked, and leave ranks blank where unranked. the way it should have worked from the beginning
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Friday, 8 September 2023 19:46 (two years ago)
my biggest stumbling block to voting is there are a few games on the list i'm pretty sure i'd love more than most of the games i've played but i don't have the time or means to play them― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, September 7, 2023 5:11 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, September 7, 2023 5:11 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
re: time, i feel you there
re: means, at the very least i can tell you that emu for most of these consoles is pretty solid these days! can't speak to xb because i haven't looked into it, but ps2 for sure, dc i am pretty sure (i mean i managed to do it on my phone somehow with some slowdown), and i hear ppl talking about the gc emu all the time
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Friday, 8 September 2023 20:02 (two years ago)
ok you convinced me, i'm gonna see if i can't emu my way through a game or two before i submit my list
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 8 September 2023 20:41 (two years ago)
I can't even remember if I played metal gear solid 2 or not. and can I vote for half life if I only played it on pc?
― churl of england (ledge), Friday, 8 September 2023 21:08 (two years ago)
This poll sure brought back memories of that weird transitional time in my early 20s when I had moved in with my (now ex) girlfriend right after college, that sterile west side apartment, PS2 and GBA games, cats, etc. I voted.
― 50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Friday, 8 September 2023 21:26 (two years ago)
im not gonna stop you from voting HL2 even if you played it on pc, but if it were me voting for it in a console poll i'd wait til the next gen just because x360 feels like the "definitive" console release in the orange box. but yeah there are a lot of "ppl prob played it on pc" games in this list and i'm not gonna tell ppl what to do. i mean i'm voting for a couple of dreamcast games i only played once they were released on 360 because i didn't have a dreamcast
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Friday, 8 September 2023 22:25 (two years ago)
> 40-game ballots of any type (if we receive any of those i'll be wildly impressed!)
having a hard time trimming it down to 40 rn, though if we were only allowed to submit games played for a significant amount of time then i'd have trouble finding 20 i'd want to submit to a best of anything
going to go a hybrid ballot with the ranked half being mostly games i've played + "no way i wouldn't have loved this if i had the chance" (hello, illbleed) and the unranked half being mostly unkonwns + games i did play and enjoy but wouldn't want to rank higher than the others
re: xbox emulation, it's in rough shape compared to the others: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/will-the-ps4s-x86-supercharged-pc-architecture-be-easy-to-emulate.515078/#post-48088464https://cxbx-reloaded.co.uk/
― chihuahuau, Friday, 8 September 2023 22:32 (two years ago)
Oops, I had HL2 pretty high on my ballot but I definitely played it on 360, forgot about that.
― 50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Friday, 8 September 2023 22:46 (two years ago)
gamecube emulation is some of the best around, ps2 emulation is decent enough these days, xbox emulation took forever to get off the ground (only really in the last 5 years) but at least exists in a usable state now - xemu is the one you want. dreamcast emulation is decent enough too iirc
― ufo, Friday, 8 September 2023 22:53 (two years ago)
something else that is interesting re: playing the archives
if you have a ps2 lying around (any kind, but fat one in particular), it is easy and cheap to get everything you need to put games on a hard drive and play them like that! type free mc boot into youtube to learn more if that sounds up your alley
while i was happy with emu i expect i'll be even happier w being able to play on native hw on my crt
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:27 (two years ago)
(i understand gc is easyish, and dreamcast is difficult but doable)
If I pasted titles from the data sheet into the ballot will it work, or do i have to select from the dropdown?
― lurch of england (ledge), Friday, 22 September 2023 08:15 (two years ago)
Pasting should work fine!
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Friday, 22 September 2023 17:02 (two years ago)
Sent! Thanks for putting this together!
― H.P, Saturday, 23 September 2023 03:54 (two years ago)
I Voted.
I had no problem getting 40 games. Ranking them all seemed impossible so I only ranked the top 10.
― formerly abanana (dat), Monday, 25 September 2023 13:10 (two years ago)
voted. 28 games.
― lurch of england (ledge), Monday, 25 September 2023 13:53 (two years ago)
all three received, thank u!
to anyone who i haven't responded to in the thread, lmk if you didn't get an email response from me, i am trying to make sure i reply to everyone
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Monday, 25 September 2023 16:23 (two years ago)
Will you take resubs? Just about finished playing Killer 7 (after buying it at like age 12, thanks mum) and want to do all I can to promote how good it is
― H.P, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:02 (two years ago)
Yeah no worries, send it again!
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:29 (two years ago)
haven't really been bumping this thread enough but uhh if you haven't voted yet, would you like to submit a ballot?
i have received a lot of honestly good-as-hell ballots so far but nowhere near enough of them, so, please send me a ballot
i think we have 9 now?
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Saturday, 14 October 2023 23:05 (two years ago)
Is mine one?
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 15 October 2023 08:18 (two years ago)
Vote! Lurkers, posters, people who have only played one videogame in their life! It all counts
― H.P, Sunday, 15 October 2023 11:21 (two years ago)
Is mine one?― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, October 15, 2023 4:18 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, October 15, 2023 4:18 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
yours was ninth! i just forgot to email you confirmation (my bad)
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Sunday, 15 October 2023 11:42 (two years ago)
Just sent!
― JimD, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:50 (two years ago)
that's a dozen! tempted to start messaging people who nominated/discussed in the other thread to get more ballots
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 14:21 (two years ago)
i've thought about doing one but i don't feel i can in good conscience, soz
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 14:27 (two years ago)
hope mine went thru!
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:04 (two years ago)
Have a word with your conscience, NV - the world needs more dilettantes!
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:58 (two years ago)
agreed
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 18 October 2023 19:04 (two years ago)
ok you bullied me into it don't blame me
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 19:36 (two years ago)
alright, 13 ballots! i guess that'll have to do lol. last call is tomorrow evening, gonna start working on the images after that so it'll really be too late then!
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:25 (two years ago)
i never got a confirmation, hope i'm in there! can't wait
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 02:05 (two years ago)
Thank you for your work Will!
― #1 García Fan (H.P), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 03:06 (two years ago)
oops i definitely got and counted yours dlh! also received another yesterday so we're up to 14, even better
there are some shocking 0-vote games this time around i gotta say!
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 14:43 (two years ago)
PS2 is the only one of these I owned and I didn't have a ton of games for it
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:21 (two years ago)
Boxes and Cubes for Playing and Dreaming - Console Poll, vol. 4 - 6th Generation RESULTS
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:46 (two years ago)